bogart777 wrote:Hi All,

If using Titanium backup to install Market on PE... make sure to use a phone that also has android 2.2!

At first, I was using phone with android 2.3 and it install was failing. Finally thought of using my G1 to backup that has android 2.2... and it worked!

Any way you might be able to post the files you used for the restore without jeopardizing your security? I've been struggling to get a version of Market that works for several days now.

Hi - stupid question. It looks like there are various ways of getting books over to the eink side, IF you download a book on your PC, jump through a few hoops, do some file conversion, etc. and then transfer it over to the eDGe. Is there any elibrary (similar to kindle, kobo, etc.) where you can just download the durn things directly to the eDGe without jumping through the hoops? I'm trying to set this up for some technophobes, and they're not going to be able to handle all the steps involved in getting stuff on to this thing. I just want to open a library app, download stuff in the right format, and have it openable on the eink side. Is that too much to ask?

friartek wrote:On your PE, in the browser go to www.amazon.com/amazonappstoreapp. Use the "Download now" button to download. After downloading you should see an icon with a down arrow in the upper left of the screen. Drag down the top bar. Select the Amazon .apk and you should see an "Install" button at the bottom of the screen - select same. It should now be installed.

Since it was already installed on mine(June purchase), I could not duplicate each step so I hope all the steps are correct.

Update: alericb reported back, "That worked perfectly.".

asifran wrote:

I downloaded the amazon app. How do I see it on the edge? I do not see an icon

How did you get the icons on the edge?

zephyrjs wrote:Any way you might be able to post the files you used for the restore without jeopardizing your security? I've been struggling to get a version of Market that works for several days now.

some one suggested using a dummy gmail account then create the backups to share. i'll think about it. don't want my personal info released with it. maybe this weekend.

asifran wrote:I downloaded the amazon app. How do I see it on the edge? I do not see an icon

Apps are not immediately put on the front screen...those are shortcuts...Tap the "x" at the center of the bottom area and a field of apps will open....long press on any you want moved to the 1st screen.

Thank you. It worked. Note: I was caught in the zip.zip windows file extension problem. Got rid of the extra zip and it worked!!

zephyrjs wrote:Hi - stupid question. It looks like there are various ways of getting books over to the eink side, IF you download a book on your PC, jump through a few hoops, do some file conversion, etc. and then transfer it over to the eDGe. Is there any elibrary (similar to kindle, kobo, etc.) where you can just download the durn things directly to the eDGe without jumping through the hoops? I'm trying to set this up for some technophobes, and they're not going to be able to handle all the steps involved in getting stuff on to this thing. I just want to open a library app, download stuff in the right format, and have it openable on the eink side. Is that too much to ask?

One way to make sure that you can get books formatted for the eink side.....I simply put a bookmark in the browser for projectgutenburg mobile site(an example)...I do not then need an app. Just click on the bookmarks icon after opening the browser and choose it.

edit (the Kindle App opens books on the Tablet side).

Half of my eInk screen is completely messed up. Happened randomly yesterday. Reboots, resets and restarts aren't fixing the problem.

Anybody experience this? Thanks!

morriea wrote:One way to make sure that you can get books formatted for the eink side.....I simply put a bookmark in the browser for projectgutenburg mobile site(an example)...I do not then need an app. Just click on the bookmarks icon after opening the browser and choose it.

edit (the Kindle App opens books on the Tablet side).

That seems to be a good option. Looks like you can put a direct link to a URL on the desktop. (Using bookmarks inside a browser might be a bit too intense for my users so the more it looks like an "app" the easier it will be on them. ) It looks like you can download the books, then open them and then click on the download, and it will prompt you to open it with the Library app which does the rest. PROBABLY good enough. Thanks!

bogart777 wrote:some one suggested using a dummy gmail account then create the backups to share. i'll think about it. don't want my personal info released with it. maybe this weekend.

I am fairly certain I would not be the only wooter in your debt. Fingers crossed.

minionofeckerd wrote:Half of my eInk screen is completely messed up. Happened randomly yesterday. Reboots, resets and restarts aren't fixing the problem.

Anybody experience this? Thanks!

have you tried settings/display/reader screen calibrator?

morriea wrote:have you tried settings/display/reader screen calibrator?

Tried that. I can click on the top of the screen but all of the eInk is stuck and doesn't refresh. Got through the whole calibration but the screen didn't refresh.

I posted this late last night and I haven't seen an answer. Could someone help me. I am not completely computer illiterate, but I am not as savvy as some of the people posting here are. Here is the post from last night:

I had a couple of questions about the 2.2 download.
I opened the notepad and see the directions. Some of the characters are little squares. I have seen them before. So when I went to my flash drive to rename the file, I copy/pasted the file name. But it has one of those squares and my flash drive won't accept it as a name for the file. What do I do?
Also, do I extract the file and put it on the flash or the zipped one.

My new edge will not register because all the websites are gone. As is it is totally useless. I have not gotten any answers from Woot. Any suggestions?

10kaustin wrote:I posted this late last night and I haven't seen an answer. Could someone help me. I am not completely computer illiterate, but I am not as savvy as some of the people posting here are. Here is the post from last night:

I had a couple of questions about the 2.2 download.
I opened the notepad and see the directions. Some of the characters are little squares. I have seen them before. So when I went to my flash drive to rename the file, I copy/pasted the file name. But it has one of those squares and my flash drive won't accept it as a name for the file. What do I do?
Also, do I extract the file and put it on the flash or the zipped one.

First I assume your downloaded the torrent. The instruction file is stored in UTF-8 format. I'm not sure what notepad does with it. I don't uses Windows as my primary system, so I didn't have the problem. The file name you need is "update.zip.ermine-0.9.PE", rename to"update.zip".

jamesshipley wrote:My new edge will not register because all the websites are gone. As is it is totally useless. I have not gotten any answers from Woot. Any suggestions?

How to get past the registration problem during setup:

Post 4622390.
Post 4636201.

How to get the Android 2.2 upgrade:

Post 4622688.

This download contains several files including instructions.

You should also check out Mobile Read. The community over there is supporting the EE and PE. Registration is free

Friartek,
Thanks. I learned about torrents last night. And other neat tricks too. I have it. Should I use the .zip or extracted file or does it matter?

Ok. I just downloaded a book using ADE to my PC and copied it to my Flash then to eDGe and it says that it is licensed to another user. Tell me what to do.

10kaustin wrote:Friartek,
Thanks. I learned about torrents last night. And other neat tricks too. I have it. Should I use the .zip or extracted file or does it matter?

Extract the files. Instructions are included in a text file.

friartek wrote:Extract the files. Instructions are included in a text file.

I got it done! Works great so far!

zephyrjs

Not a stupid Q. I want to know too! How can we get books downloaded to the eDGe? I am willing to jump through some hoops, though. I know what a file conversion is, but I have never done one.
Can anyone help?

zephyrjs wrote:I am fairly certain I would not be the only wooter in your debt. Fingers crossed.

i typed a very long list of instructions and lost it. darn.

anyway, i was calling for guineapigs... i mean volunteers. zephyrjs?

please give me a gmail account and password. probably best if you create a new one since i dont trust myself with access to your personal gmail. send it to edge.pocket@gmail.com. i'll confirm here whether i got the info or not. i created the email as dummy email but it wouldnt work out in the long run. will explain next time.

i typed my whole plan of action then lost it. will retype next time. anyway. send me the info to the email above and i will send you the ( titanium generated) backup based on your provided email address. then keep fingers and toes crossed. oh yeah, i will only be backing up the google services framework and market.

if it works, make me famous! i mean i'll share the idea and hopefully everyone else with android 2.2 phones will assist to give other wooters get market access.

lets try with one guineapig.... er... volunteer... then if it works, i'll help the others.

thedietcokeofevil wrote:Finally got mine! Now I'm just waiting for my roommate to add the MAC address to our damned WiFi so I can really start playing with it. So far though, I'm quite pleased. I was really only in the market for an eReader and this does that very well, and all the other goodies are just a bonus.

While I'm waiting for my internet access to allow me to play with the software stuff a little easier, I wonder if someone might help me resolve a glaring oversight with the hardware:

Can anyone tell me where to buy a nice decal that reads "DON'T PANIC" in large, friendly letters?

I'm not sure if you are serious about wanting the custom decal, but even if not, it's worth posting that people over at the mobileread forum seem to like DecalGirl skins. You can either get stock skins or get a custom one. Check here. I ordered one. I've yet to receive it so I can't speak to the quality at this time. We'll see how it turns out.

Also, if you like DecalGirl on facebook, you get a coupon for 15% off. It says it expired on Sept 1st, but it still worked for me.

morriea wrote:I added Opera mini...then realized the native browser allows you to send web pages to the reader which is a great function not available on Opera(or the others I would imagine)

see this...part 1 and 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krOWfE2I50o&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyXgS9BVzwk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

I think it is part 2 that talks about the browser.

edit: Part 2 starts with the browser info
edit2: now is linked per friartek suggestion...no need to copy and paste into browser.....I bow before his knowledge!

Thank you for posting this!! Great rundown of what it can do. This is my first Android device, though (as well as my first eReader), so I have a fairly steep learning curve.

Here is another link that may be of some use.

http://www.edge.ympsa.com/

I downloaded a .pdf of the users manual to my pc so I could read it and play with the PE at the same time.

there also are links for MODIFIED version of 2.2 that supports G-Apps including Google Maps, Market, Gmail(?doesn't it already?), Talk, Voice Search and more. (I am not going to try it 1st...anyone?), and an update for the browser.

jamina1 wrote:I'm angry at Fedex. Because of their derp-derp don't do anything over the weekend or on Monday I didn't get mine yesterday. They didn't hand it to the post office until about 3pm yesterday afternoon so I'll get it today. Bleh.

I know your pain... I still haven't got mine, and the post office stated that I have to wait until October 3rd before I can put a trace on it because it was sent parcel post.

bogart777 wrote:i typed a very long list of instructions and lost it. darn.

anyway, i was calling for guineapigs... i mean volunteers. zephyrjs?

please give me a gmail account and password. probably best if you create a new one since i dont trust myself with access to your personal gmail. send it to edge.pocket@gmail.com. i'll confirm here whether i got the info or not. i created the email as dummy email but it wouldnt work out in the long run. will explain next time.

i typed my whole plan of action then lost it. will retype next time. anyway. send me the info to the email above and i will send you the ( titanium generated) backup based on your provided email address. then keep fingers and toes crossed. oh yeah, i will only be backing up the google services framework and market.

if it works, make me famous! i mean i'll share the idea and hopefully everyone else with android 2.2 phones will assist to give other wooters get market access.

lets try with one guineapig.... er... volunteer... then if it works, i'll help the others.

Yup, I will volunteer! I will get this to you asap. Hopefully later this afternoon. Thanks very much!

morriea wrote:Here is another link that may be of some use.

http://www.edge.ympsa.com/

I downloaded a .pdf of the users manual to my pc so I could read it and play with the PE at the same time.

there also are links for MODIFIED version of 2.2 that supports G-Apps including Google Maps, Market, Gmail(?doesn't it already?), Talk, Voice Search and more. (I am not going to try it 1st...anyone?), and an update for the browser.

Can you give a beginner explanation of what "rooting" my device will do for me? I am talking specifically about the Z4 app you have linked from the Amazon app store on the site above.

friartek wrote:How to get past the registration problem during setup:

Post 4622390.
Post 4636201.

How to get the Android 2.2 upgrade:

Post 4622688.

This download contains several files including instructions.

You should also check out Mobile Read. The community over there is supporting the EE and PE. Registration is free

I'm nominating you for sainthood!

BTW the upgrade to 2.2 went seamlessly! No need to worry as long as you FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS! What a difference!

Everything is working great!

AVOID THIS PRODUCT AT ALL COSTS!! APPARENTLY WOOT SELLS IT FROM TIME TO TIME. THE COMPANY, ENTOURAGE, THAT MAKES THE POCKET EDGE IS OUT OF BUSINESS. YOU CANNOT REGISTER THE PRODUCT, SO THINGS LIKE THE GOOGLE-APPS STORE DO NOT WORK! AND YOU CANNOT GET THE "UPDATES". IT TOOK ME 2 DAYS TO FIND THE UPDATE.ZIP FILE SO I COULD UPGRADE FROM 1.6 TO 2.2. THE GOOGLE BOOKS STORE DOES NOT WORK EITHER (in some cases you can get to these app site, but when trying to download you get one of several errors.)

It's really my fault. I trusted Woot that they would sell a product that worked with a company that exists. I've learned, when buying from Woot, ya better do your home work.

jobisez wrote:AVOID THIS PRODUCT AT ALL COSTS!! APPARENTLY WOOT SELLS IT FROM TIME TO TIME. THE COMPANY, ENTOURAGE, THAT MAKES THE POCKET EDGE IS OUT OF BUSINESS. YOU CANNOT REGISTER THE PRODUCT, SO THINGS LIKE THE GOOGLE-APPS STORE DO NOT WORK! AND YOU CANNOT GET THE "UPDATES". IT TOOK ME 2 DAYS TO FIND THE UPDATE.ZIP FILE SO I COULD UPGRADE FROM 1.6 TO 2.2. THE GOOGLE BOOKS STORE DOES NOT WORK EITHER (in some cases you can get to these app site, but when trying to download you get one of several errors.)

It's really my fault. I trusted Woot that they would sell a product that worked with a company that exists. I've learned, when buying from Woot, ya better do your home work.

You'll be delighted to know that in many posts above we have some exceptionally helpful people with tips and helpful advice.

We hope you find the other posters handy links and tricks to be of use.

jobisez wrote:AVOID THIS PRODUCT AT ALL COSTS!! APPARENTLY WOOT SELLS IT FROM TIME TO TIME. THE COMPANY, ENTOURAGE, THAT MAKES THE POCKET EDGE IS OUT OF BUSINESS. YOU CANNOT REGISTER THE PRODUCT, SO THINGS LIKE THE GOOGLE-APPS STORE DO NOT WORK! AND YOU CANNOT GET THE "UPDATES". IT TOOK ME 2 DAYS TO FIND THE UPDATE.ZIP FILE SO I COULD UPGRADE FROM 1.6 TO 2.2. THE GOOGLE BOOKS STORE DOES NOT WORK EITHER (in some cases you can get to these app site, but when trying to download you get one of several errors.)

It's really my fault. I trusted Woot that they would sell a product that worked with a company that exists. I've learned, when buying from Woot, ya better do your home work.

Huh? Mine works great and so do many others as evidenced in the posts. Upgraded to 2.2 no problem. I've already used it at work to download and edit news stories.

Some of my posts to this thread and to several other websites I go to were done on the PE. Again no problem.


OK how about this. Olds and Pontiac are out of business but would you buy one? There is still community support.

Or my old DX150 realistic SW radio. Hasn't been made for decades, the company that made it is gone. I can still get parts and LOTS of support for it so it still works.

Are you an Apple fanboy? If you are I still have an ORIGIANAL MAC SE complete with a Grateful dead sticker I'm looking to get rid of...

robingsmith wrote:Can you give a beginner explanation of what "rooting" my device will do for me? I am talking specifically about the Z4 app you have linked from the Amazon app store on the site above.

I have not "rooted" this device either. I think friartek may the best possible resource on this post to help.....or maybe someone else has rooted the PE.......anyone?

my apologies for a general lack of help in this area.

robingsmith wrote:Can you give a beginner explanation of what "rooting" my device will do for me? I am talking specifically about the Z4 app you have linked from the Amazon app store on the site above.

As previously stated "rooting" can be very dangerous. The PE, as is, does not allow you to do everything; especially things that could "brick" it. Brick means it will do nothing but just sit there; being a heavy weight for say papers. As a brick, there is usually no way to recover. I could type 7 characters including spaces; hit return; and wipe everything off a system as root.

That being said; you have been warned.

On the other hand rooting may allow apps to do very useful things. It comes down to the degree of risk involved. There are a number of apps that came with the PE that do things that required that they be rooted(and they were). The main difference is that enTourage had tested them and shall we say, given them their blessing as safe to use. Apps from other sources may also be fine. Make sure you do your research and read carefully the instructions that come with those apps. This is where the Z4 app comes into play.

The Z4 app allows you to set rooting as temporary or permanent. I would suggest using temporary, as you normally only need to be "root" during the installation of the app. This is a safer way to run it. Turn it on and off as needed. This can be true of apps that when they run check to see if rooting is turned on before it is allowed to do an operation.

Rooting - in and of itself is not bad, on the contrary, can be very useful; but there can be risks. Knowing the source of the app and being able to trust that source is vital.

jobisez wrote:AVOID THIS PRODUCT AT ALL COSTS!! APPARENTLY WOOT SELLS IT FROM TIME TO TIME. THE COMPANY, ENTOURAGE, THAT MAKES THE POCKET EDGE IS OUT OF BUSINESS. YOU CANNOT REGISTER THE PRODUCT, SO THINGS LIKE THE GOOGLE-APPS STORE DO NOT WORK! AND YOU CANNOT GET THE "UPDATES". IT TOOK ME 2 DAYS TO FIND THE UPDATE.ZIP FILE SO I COULD UPGRADE FROM 1.6 TO 2.2. THE GOOGLE BOOKS STORE DOES NOT WORK EITHER (in some cases you can get to these app site, but when trying to download you get one of several errors.)

It's really my fault. I trusted Woot that they would sell a product that worked with a company that exists. I've learned, when buying from Woot, ya better do your home work.

I would buy more at the price woot offered.

Anyone one have any extras to sell? If so please PM.

What/how is root?

As background, UNIX is an operating system that has been around for many years now. It has always been very popular in the engineering community. It has since migrated to many other areas including the financial community. You will find UNIX systems in a majority of server rooms these days. UNIX is also know for being very secure.

It has since been cloned many times. BSD and Linux versions, of the latter there are to many distributions to count. Derived from Linux was Android a smaller version to operate on phones and tablets along with other devices.

The basic structure has remained in all these versions. Also the user root has remained too. The kernel or core of the operating system knows user root and will allow anyone who is using this account on a system to do what ever he wants, no matter how stupid/dangerous that may be. As I said with 7 characters I could wipe everything off a system. I doubt there is one UN*X administrator that at one time of another hasn't typed those 7 characters thinking he/she was in the correct directory/folder but in fact was in a different one and wiped out large portions of data, if not the whole system. You learn very quickly to check, double check, and check again before hitting that return key.

But what is root. Root is the user who is assigned the user account numbered 0(Zero). As root you can override all permissions on the system. All files on a UNIX/UN*X(UNIX clone) system use multiple layers of permissions. Also a file on these systems can be defined as any file, directory/folder, executable command, data base, link, etc..., which is sometimes confusing. Every "file" is assigned an owner and a group. Owners can belong to one or more groups. The permissions on a "file" let you know what everyone is able to do with that file.

Some example:

-rwxr-xr-- root operator FileName1

Is a regular file(the first dash), root owns it and has read/write/executable permissions(rwx), is in the group operator. Those users in the group operator have read/executable permissions(r-x). A group allows you to share data to a limited number of users. All other users on the system have only read permissions(r--).

drw-rw-r-- friartek home DirName1

Is a directory/folder(the d), owned by friartek with read/write permissions(rw-), users in group "home" also has read/write access(rw-) and everyone else has read permission only(r--)

With this is place every user is restricted to the allowed permissions set on any given "file". It also keeps each user's data private and secure if used properly. The exception is root.

You should only use the root account when needed. This is not an account to be used all the time. Using it all the time is only asking for trouble, and sooner or later trouble will find you.

Hopefully I kept this simple enough and is clear enough for all to understand. To anyone not interested, sorry I wasted your time.

...or something that keeps trees from falling over?

thought maybe it was time for a little levity.