friartek wrote:Not sure what to tell you. I haven't had to exchange or return an item with Woot!. I did purchase a PE from another deal a day company that was in a similar state including the missing stylus; returned it and since they didn't have any other new ones(or stylus), refunded in full. Went to a different deal a day company and it did have the stylus but the covers were as you described. The didn't have any more new ones either. The second company offered two choices; return for refund or keep and get a partial refund. I chose the latter.

I didn't give them my answer until I had fully checked it out, but 46 years of computer experience told me what to look for. I ran it for 72 hours checked out all features before keeping it. There were no scratches or other physical damage. When I buy things anymore, I document everything with photos, starting with the box still on the porch through the package being opened. One unfortunate thing, enTourage never sealed or shrink wrapped their boxes.

People return things for many reasons, not all are because of actual hardware problems. It could be a reason as small as the wrong color. Trying to determine what the reason was is the hard part.

The rest will be up to you and Woot! to work out.

I hope this question does not put you out...it is off topic. From this discussion (and your 46 years experience) I have come to respect your opinion, Friartek.

What do you think of turning the Nook color into a tablet with the preloaded microSD card with Gingerbread.Not rooting the Nook, but using the card as the operating system?

a quick edit gets rid of 2!

Thanks...any opinion on the Nook question would be nice.

morriea wrote:a quick edit gets rid of 2!

Thanks...any opinion on the Nook question would be nice.

I wish I could answer that question, but contrary to popular belief I don't know everything.

On woot-offs I tend to miss items if I haven't seen and researched the item first. Come to think of it, even on regular woot, I've missed items that sold out early while I researched them.

My first reader was a kobo, given as a gift(it wouldn't have been my personal first choice). It did server me well until the e-ink screen died. At least I already had my 1st PE before it died, so switching over was easy. The added features made it even easier.

The PE was fairly easy to get into for me. 27 years of UNIX servers and workstations(Sun, HP, SGI, IBM among others). FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD somewhere in there. 17 years of Linux. The progression from UNIX to Linux to Android(Linux) wasn't hard. My primary PCs and Servers(even my routers) all run one distribution or another of Linux. The PCs are dual boot - Linux and Window 7, but booting W7 normally only happens when a family member calls with a MS problem.

I wouldn't be surprised that someone over at MobileRead hasn't already tried it, or maybe that is why you are asking. Even my mp3 players(SanDisk Sansa) are running RockBox. So dual booting is not uncommon. Alpha versions my be a little risky. Beta versions, at least wait till the major bugs have been fixed. If thy are already calling it a stable release, there shouldn't be much of a problem.

Reading through the discussion groups will tell you a lot of what is going on with the software you want to use. I wish I had a more direct answer. Good luck.

Update: Running from a microSD card will be somewhat slower, but at least you won't have the problem of restoring the nook back to its original state since your not changing the core software. The one video I saw looked good. It was a Mac based setup, Linux should be easy. A Windows setup may need some additional software. Looks like my kind of fun. I'm not going to go out and buy a nook, if I did I would have to find a new place to live, or at least sleep in the dog house for a while.

friartek wrote:I wish I could answer that question, but contrary to popular belief I don't know everything.

On woot-offs I tend to miss items if I haven't seen and researched the item first. Come to think of it, even on regular woot, I've missed items that sold out early while I researched them.

My first reader was a kobo, given as a gift(it wouldn't have been my personal first choice). It did server me well until the e-ink screen died. At least I already had my 1st PE before it died, so switching over was easy. The added features made it even easier.

The PE was fairly easy to get into for me. 27 years of UNIX servers and workstations(Sun, HP, SGI, IBM among others). FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD somewhere in there. 17 years of Linux. The progression from UNIX to Linux to Android(Linux) wasn't hard. My primary PCs and Servers(even my routers) all run one distribution or another of Linux. The PCs are dual boot - Linux and Window 7, but booting W7 normally only happens when a family member calls with a MS problem.

I wouldn't be surprised that someone over at MobileRead hasn't already tried it, or maybe that is why you are asking. Even my mp3 players(SanDisk Sansa) are running RockBox. So dual booting is not uncommon. Alpha versions my be a little risky. Beta versions, at least wait till the major bugs have been fixed. If thy are already calling it a stable release, there shouldn't be much of a problem.

Reading through the discussion groups will tell you a lot of what is going on with the software you want to use. I wish I had a more direct answer. Good luck.

Thank you! I was able to get a new Nook color at another site for 149.99 and have seen the microSDs with the dual boot on eBay and Amazon that do not affect the Nook itself and was hoping that you might have some insight. I am using Mobilereads, and cnet had some info. I was hoping you might know, too.

I think I will give it a try....if it works I am getting a great tablet for less than $200.00.....fingers crossed!

friartek wrote:Not sure what to tell you. I haven't had to exchange or return an item with Woot!. I did purchase a PE from another deal a day company that was in a similar state including the missing stylus; returned it and since they didn't have any other new ones(or stylus), refunded in full. Went to a different deal a day company and it did have the stylus but the covers were as you described. The didn't have any more new ones either. The second company offered two choices; return for refund or keep and get a partial refund. I chose the latter.

I didn't give them my answer until I had fully checked it out, but 46 years of computer experience told me what to look for. I ran it for 72 hours checked out all features before keeping it. There were no scratches or other physical damage. When I buy things anymore, I document everything with photos, starting with the box still on the porch through the package being opened. One unfortunate thing, enTourage never sealed or shrink wrapped their boxes.

People return things for many reasons, not all are because of actual hardware problems. It could be a reason as small as the wrong color. Trying to determine what the reason was is the hard part.

The rest will be up to you and Woot! to work out.

Thank you, friartek! I have emailed woot my concerns and await their answer. Looking forward to setting up a brand new machine...have the update downloaded and your helpful list bookmarked.

[quote postid="4655648" user="friartek"]I wish I could answer that question, but contrary to popular belief I don't know everything.

Are you sure?

Seriously, though: you've been amazing and I haven't had to ask any questions at all in this thread (even though this is all totally new to me) because other people asked and you answered ALL of them. Woot should hire you, or bribe you with something wonderful.

Thank you for your near-infinite patience.

friartek wrote:I wish I could answer that question, but contrary to popular belief I don't know everything.

mossygreen wrote:Are you sure?

All you have to do is ask my wife, she will be happy to confirm that I don't know everything.

Anyone else at an APO address still waiting for their enTourage?

10kaustin wrote:... But what I really want is to find out how to take the battery out of a pocket edge. I have scanned through many threads and youtube and mobile read. ... Can you help me?

On mobileread thread titled "Replacement of Pocket Edge Battery" Post #4; Includes link to another thread with pictures.

I can't get my Edge to boot up - Get to step 3 and that's it - Help me

handiline wrote:I can't get my Edge to boot up - Get to step 3 and that's it - Help me

Start HERE.

perldude69 wrote:Anyone else at an APO address still waiting for their enTourage?

Hi, I don't have an APO address, but still waiting for the thing. The post office is bouncing it around out here in the West coast. Been fun watching and waiting for the scans to appear. BTW--smartpost, fedex, and usps are not able to do anything--just platitudes. Waiting in CA........good luck to you. Update--it is back in Dallas TX and a USPS representative maybe emailed the sort facility with the correct address.....hope springs again.....still waiting...done

Woot sales of the enTourage Pocket eDGe Dualbook were held on May 4, 2011; June 29, 2011 and September 9, 2011.

This is a list of sale dates, number sold and the sale price. It also has the total for all three sales.

• 2011/05/04 2473 @ $149.99
  
• 2011/06/29 2165 @ $119.99
  
• 2011/09/09 4850 @ $ 79.99
  
• Total Sold: 9488
  

The following links will take you to page one of the discussion for each sale.
The May 4, 2011 discussion.
The June 29, 2011 discussion.
The September 9, 2011 discussion(this discussion).

These discussions; especially from September 9, 2011; contain a wealth of info to get you started with the PE(Pocket eDGe). The following contains a list of links, to posts, that will get you started. It will tell you how to break out of the registration process and upgrade to Android 2.2 among other things. It is worth your time to look through these discussions, there is considerably more
info in those posts.

How to get past the registration problem during setup:

Post 4622390.
Post 4636201.

How to get the Android 2.2 upgrade:

Post 4622688.

This download contains several files including instructions.

What is a torrent:

Post 4641441.

Certain actions may require debugging to be turned on. This requires a password. Select "Settings" -> "eDGe Settings" -> "Default Device Preferences" -> "Turn Debug On or Off". Enter password in pop-up window. The debug password is 89985b36B7906bFfF.

WSoD(White Screen of Death):

Mobile Read Post 137957.

How to install the Amazon store app:

Post 4637462.

You should also check out Mobile Read. The community over there is supporting the EE and PE. Registration is free.
Mobileread member obsessed2 has compiled an extremely detailed list of Resources for New Edge and Pocket Edge Owners.

Internal Photos including the battery.

A nice list of free book sites:

Post 4645822.

To convert electronic/digital book formats:

Post 4661279.

Entourage Pocket Edge Google Apps and Market Info over at xda-developers.

friartek wrote:
A nice list of free book sites:

Post 4645822.

Your infolink post should be stickied at the top;
very useful index to everything-

On the ebooks, I've downloaded a few in the different formats available, and it looks like most of them need to be read with a corresponding app on the tablet side; is there any universal conversion process that can bring it over to the reader side to take advantage of the low power consumption of the e-ink?

wooters!! wrote:Your infolink post should be stickied at the top;
very useful index to everything-

On the ebooks, I've downloaded a few in the different formats available, and it looks like most of them need to be read with a corresponding app on the tablet side; is there any universal conversion process that can bring it over to the reader side to take advantage of the low power consumption of the e-ink?

I've been mostly getting books from Gutenberg, and they have epub format which works fine. I haven't checked out the others, yet.

To convert you should get Calibre. Its free and works great. Runs on Mac, Linux and Windows.

From the manual/FAQ:
What formats does calibre support conversion to/from?

Calibre supports the conversion of many input formats to many output formats. It can convert every input format in the following list, to every output format.

Input Formats: CBZ, CBR, CBC, CHM, EPUB, FB2, HTML, HTMLZ, LIT, LRF, MOBI, ODT, PDF, PRC, PDB, PML, RB, RTF, SNB, TCR, TXT, TXTZ

Output Formats: EPUB, FB2, OEB, LIT, LRF, MOBI, HTMLZ, PDB, PML, RB, PDF, RTF, SNB, TCR, TXT, TXTZ

What devices does calibre support?

Lots of readers..., Entourage Edge,...Lots more.

There is also support over at the MobileRead Calibre forum.

There is also an epub editor by Sigil, along with a Sigil forum on MobileRead. This editor can be used to clean up epubs after conversions. Sigil supports multiple platforms(Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows) and has 64 bit versions.

Both applications are downloadable and free but they do except donations.

shutttleman wrote:Is this still seeding?

Thnx for the torrent! I've googled my fingers off and called local computer stores for assistance and no results. Most sites--their links--have closed or expired. You've given me back a dual book rather than a paper weight. In gratitude for your sharing base. s//

Heads up - for those interested in connecting to the Market, a fix has been recently posted on the Edge forum on the mobileread.com site.

I am still waiting to try it, but judging from the reaction to date, it appears to be a working fix. It also appears to be helpful in getting Talk to work.

Steve

P.S., I purchased my PE on the second Woot. This thread remains very useful.

ADDENDUM: Uh-duh, search for "Allmine" or look at thread "Ermine+Allmine=Market".

Forgot to say that "Friartek" is a very good contributor; I don't recall seeing posts of his on mobileread or xda fora but he might be using a different name(?)

Thanks.

Steve

DennisWKam wrote:We know you're anxious to get to multitasking with the dualbook. Unfortunately, shipping to APO addresses can sometimes take up to 6 weeks for delivery, but it usually comes sooner than that. Give it until the 6th week to deliver and you might want to check with your local delivery service to see if they have it. Please email us at service@woot.com if you need further assistance.

I've bought 2 of these little buggers, one for me and one for my husband. So far, so good.
I did do the upgrade to the 2.2 beta on mine, it worked perfectly.

The Amazon Kindle app works great on it and while you can't run every other Android app on it you can do quite a bit.

I find I use the tablet side far more than the e-ink side. It's great to read on in bed in the middle of the night when you can't sleep.

I had originally bought it as a "tester" to see if I liked e-ink or or a lit screen better before spending a lot more money on a new Kindle or tablet, and figured it would tide me over until the newer stuff came down in price and clearer standards shook out.
It's been well worth the money so far and I'll use it until it dies.

My only complaint is that it's a bit heavy because of the dual screen. I have carpal tunnel probs in my left wrist, and sometimes it flares up while holding onto this thing.

morriea wrote:I hope this question does not put you out...it is off topic. From this discussion (and your 46 years experience) I have come to respect your opinion, Friartek.

What do you think of turning the Nook color into a tablet with the preloaded microSD card with Gingerbread.Not rooting the Nook, but using the card as the operating system?

Just a quick update....It works like a dream.

onlycris wrote:Hi, I don't have an APO address, but still waiting for the thing. The post office is bouncing it around out here in the West coast. Been fun watching and waiting for the scans to appear. BTW--smartpost, fedex, and usps are not able to do anything--just platitudes. Waiting in CA........good luck to you. Update--it is back in Dallas TX and a USPS representative maybe emailed the sort facility with the correct address.....hope springs again.....still waiting...

Did you get yours? I am still waiting. I am at an APO (Army Post Office) in Germany. The military flys the postage from New Jersey to bases around the world. My package hit Jersey on the 17th of September....... I guess it is lost in Japan or maybe the Antarctic.....???!

perldude69 wrote:Did you get yours? I am still waiting. I am at an APO (Army Post Office) in Germany. The military flys the postage from New Jersey to bases around the world. My package hit Jersey on the 17th of September....... I guess it is lost in Japan or maybe the Antarctic.....???!

Nope, last I saw it was in Dallas TX, now for the second time--October 5.....did ask a question for service@woot...but not get return email--so answer must be no........waiting still..awesome news...been reshipped. yippee!! got it--woot service came through!! BEEN SEARCHING updated using xda-developers.com tried the steps and the google stuff works--market works and you tube is great so if anyone else want to try.

Ive got the update flashed to the PE; when going to youtube through the browser, the videos don't play, only showing a big circle/slash. It'd be one thing if it was just choppy due to processing power, but it doesn't even give a college try.

Is there some other app that's needed to play youtube videos? I recall before the update, there was an icon for youtube, but that didn't work either.

wooters!! wrote:Ive got the update flashed to the PE; when going to youtube through the browser, the videos don't play, only showing a big circle/slash. It'd be one thing if it was just choppy due to processing power, but it doesn't even give a college try.

Is there some other app that's needed to play youtube videos? I recall before the update, there was an icon for youtube, but that didn't work either.

http://www.freewarelovers.com/android/download/temp/1313157019_com.google.android.youtube-2.2.16.apk

here is the youtube app. It works fine on mine. OR go to Amazon App store and download FREEdi Youtube Downloader.
Hope this helps!

perldude69 wrote:Anyone else at an APO address still waiting for their enTourage?

I finally got my enTourage today. Waiting for the battery to load.

perldude69 wrote:I finally got my enTourage today. Waiting for the battery to load.

WooooHoooo.

My Pocket Edge is my new best friend. With a sprinkle of love and an upgrade of the Android OS, this was an amazing deal. The gizmo carries my books, tells me the news and weather, plays movies for me, and spins tunes from Pandora. I forgive it for being too weak to run a normal paced game of Angry Birds. I love you, pocket edge. MWAH. If WOOT would run this deal again I'd buy one for everyone I know. We don't need no stinkin' entourage store. Everyone should have a friend like the Edge. That's what Bono says. But I guess that's irrelevant.

morriea wrote:http://www.freewarelovers.com/android/download/temp/1313157019_com.google.android.youtube-2.2.16.apk

here is the youtube app. It works fine on mine. OR go to Amazon App store and download FREEdi Youtube Downloader.
Hope this helps!

Thanks heaps, worked fine on mine also!

Just in case anyone still comes here. I have not seen this(at least I do not remember seeing it).

How to get Android Market!!!!!!!

http://bedgehackersforum.runboard.com/t28

I have NOT tried it. But the forum is up and running at the site, so someone can probably help you there. Leave a note if this works for you.....or just leave a note that anyone has seen this post.

morriea wrote:Just in case anyone still comes here. I have not seen this(at least I do not remember seeing it).

How to get Android Market!!!!!!!

http://bedgehackersforum.runboard.com/t28

I have NOT tried it. But the forum is up and running at the site, so someone can probably help you there. Leave a note if this works for you.....or just leave a note that anyone has seen this post.

I believe the post over at xda-developers gives a more detailed process. I installed it and it worked like a champ. There were some cautions about doing it after installing other apps after the ermine upgrade, but it has worked great on mine and several others without going back to scratch. I already updated my earlier post towards the top of this page with the info.

Also note that some things are added/changed on existing apps. If you go to "settings" -> "About eDGe" you will see that the Model number instead of being "edgejr" is now "Nexus One" and the Build number is now "Froyo" where it was "ermine-0.9". Best guess; the update was adapted form a Nexus One update, and not everything got changed. It doesn't appear to effect anything, at least nothing I've found so far. The reader still works, which was my first concern.

I'll wait a few more days, and if there are no more posts added here, I'll re-post the long post at the end.

friartek wrote:I believe the post over at xda-developers gives a more detailed process. I installed it and it worked like a champ. There were some cautions about doing it after installing other apps after the ermine upgrade, but it has worked great on mine and several others without going back to scratch. I already updated my earlier post towards the top of this page with the info.

Also note that some things are added/changed on existing apps. If you go to "settings" -> "About eDGe" you will see that the Model number instead of being "edgejr" is now "Nexus One" and the Build number is now "Froyo" where it was "ermine-0.9". Best guess; the update was adapted form a Nexus One update, and not everything got changed. It doesn't appear to effect anything, at least nothing I've found so far. The reader still works, which was my first concern.

I'll wait a few more days, and if there are no more posts added here, I'll re-post the long post at the end.

Thanks Tek!

Go here to get the Android Market, Gmail and all of the other missing things working:

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152337

Enjoy!

perldude69 wrote:Go here to get the Android Market, Gmail and all of the other missing things working:

http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152337

Enjoy!

Hey Woot!

We need more to give for X-mas presents!

BTW Love the new update to the OS.

Someone was asking about Netflix - I can tell you that 1.4.1 does NOT work - it will attempt to start the movie, fail, and go back to your queue screen. I read somewhere (can't find the source) that it has something to do with the fact that Netflix doesn't support the processor that the eDGe uses (I think it's ARM5 or something).

There is a new version of the Netflix app (1.5) and there is some hope that the eDGe will work with it, but it seems unlikely, as new versions are unlikely to be working towards backwards compatibility.

If anyone knows of a previous version of Netflix app that works for ARM5 processors, I'd be interested in finding that out.

Have been using my Pocket Edge with update - It is fantastic! Start-up help from wooters (especially friartek) and also the Mobileread forum was greatly appreciated. I work in a hospital and the Speak To Me Cloud app was incredible translating my English into Spanish for my Spanish only speaking patient.

PS Thanks Woot for the new avitar !!!

not sure if anyone else had similar experience, but mine got home, powered on, updated.. was used once.. and now is a paper weight. I'll google around a bit to see if it's a known problem and there's a fix, but all I get is a white screen, it never seems to boot.

square trade would have been a good idea, I suppose.

darthzep wrote:not sure if anyone else had similar experience, but mine got home, powered on, updated.. was used once.. and now is a paper weight. I'll google around a bit to see if it's a known problem and there's a fix, but all I get is a white screen, it never seems to boot.

square trade would have been a good idea, I suppose.

WSoD(White Screen of Death) discussion over at MobileRead. Haven't experienced it with any of mine, so I don't have an answer myself. Hope this helps.

With another lead found nice page with working links. So much information on 1 page for the PE.
Rooting, apps, videos.....amazing. A large contributor is ezekielk.
Check it out at bedgehackers forum.