TJFoxxxx


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It lacks a ten-key. I'll pass.

RevLoki


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goillini17 wrote:Dear RevLoki,

I'm looking to purchase a new laptop. I have been using a Dell e1705 since 2004 and absolutely love it, but it's getting a little slow in it's old age and the 100GB hard drive is nowhere near enough to hold all my goodies.

As a PC Tech, do you have any suggestions for a 13-15" laptop that will pack plenty of punch without breaking my piggy bank? I've read good things about the Toshiba Portege R835, but am hesitant to buy a Toshiba. Should I be?

Much thanks in advance for your insight!



Don't be hesitant to buy Toshiba. The hardware is pretty well designed for the price point. My biggest complaint about Toshiba is that they generally have a boatload of junkware preloaded on them. You'll have to uninstall endless trials and freebies to claim your newly minted laptop. But such is life these days.

IMO, I've always considered Toshiba to be the "best bang for the buck" in terms of features vs. build quality. Sony is at the bottom of my list. Dell is my second runner up (but only because of warranty) and I like Lenovo as well (due to the heritage of the IBM Thinkpad line.)

rentechd


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Irregularcog wrote:$400 for a blu-ray laptop...what's the catch woot?
Is it just an HP touchpad with a keyboard stuck on it?
Is it really green-rays and ham
I refuse woot-I-am




I bought the same laptop, except I got the 17.3 inch widescreen, just after win7 was released. Its a good laptop but not the newest kid on the block and requires a cooler pad (runs very hot) unless you enjoy heat caused shutdowns or blisters on your thighs ! Unless the refurbished bit means they found away to run it cooler then that is probably the catch.

Pamela Duncan

Goodnub


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Shinespark explains, "It's a quad core with one disabled.... less heat and power consumption."

WRONG!

AMD Makes Triple Core processors. This chip is based on the Athlon II X3 processor, another THREE CORE processor. You can actually look it up, they have 3 core and 6 core models, and are working on a single chip 12 core. There are some wonderful documents floating on the Web that show some of the features of odd numbered cores instead of even numbered ones.

This is a great notebook, and if I wasn't moving into a new house next week, would purchase it for my Son.

bahudspeth


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RevLoki wrote:IMO, I've always considered Toshiba to be the "best bang for the buck" in terms of features vs. build quality. Sony is at the bottom of my list. Dell is my second runner up (but only because of warranty) and I like Lenovo as well (due to the heritage of the IBM Thinkpad line.)



For my two cents, I'd never buy a Dell or HP again - burned on those for personal and work too many times. I like Toshiba and Lenovo (have one of each presently - Lenovo every day for work, Toshiba sits on my coffee table and has been on 24/7 for the last 2+ years). Acer is also surprisingly good (at least from my experience with their netbooks) and I hear good things about ASUS and have had great experiences with their MOBOs and vid cards in the DIY desktop arena.

WhyWhat


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I had a DV 1125. Great machine, lasted me 4 years or so. The keyboard malfunctioned (different letters would not work) and it would over heat, so quickly, thought it never had problems due to it being 18,000 degrees.

rpm


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bahudspeth wrote:For my two cents, I'd never buy a Dell or HP again - burned on those for personal and work too many times. I like Toshiba and Lenovo (have one of each presently - Lenovo every day for work, Toshiba sits on my coffee table and has been on 24/7 for the last 2+ years). Acer is also surprisingly good (at least from my experience with their netbooks) and I hear good things about ASUS and have had great experiences with their MOBOs and vid cards in the DIY desktop arena.



My wife and mother in law have had decent luck with HP laptops, but that's light use.

Over the years, I've owned a Toshiba and four IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads. The Toshiba was a great little machine which I used for four years as my main travel computer, and then the kids got several more years out of it until it was just too slow. The Thinkpads have all been excellent machines, and the service (I always by extended warranty on site) fabulous. I think there has been a slight decline in quality since IBM sold the company to Lenovo, but the components and design remain very solid. Keyboards are the best laptop keyboards around, IMHO.

Wine-tasting in 8 words:
Pull lots of corks!
Remember what you taste!

NocturnalOne


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I have a higher end DV7 with an i7 processor. Looks similar if not the same. It's an excellent machine except for the POC touchpad. It's a disgrace for a $1000 laptop. Looks the same as the one on this one. The problem is that the two buttons are part of the pad. Two issues with that:

1) the whole pad needs to flex before you can push a button. This feels and sounds ominous.

2) the keys are touch sensitive so when you hover above the button it affects where the mouse goes.

HP offered to replace my touchpad when I contacted them. Nice but that would just do whatever damage to an otherwise fine machine just to get the same touchpad back.

My wife has an HP from a year or two ago and it has a terrific metal touchpad with two discrete buttons. On mine the plastic on the touchpad is already wearing and turning shiny after half a year of casual use.

This looks like a decent laptop for the price but touchpad nitpickers like me won't like it.

Added later:

my laptop came with a noisy power supply and HP shipped me a new one a few days later. I bought a refurb HP desktop (perhaps of Woot?) and it's been great. A refurb Mediavault from HP was DOA and they sent me two new chassis overnight until I had one that worked. Not impressed with quality, impressed with support on that one.

pwallen1962


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lafis wrote:aaaaand.... once they hit $399 worth of repairs, the warranty contract "completes" (i.e., that's it, folks, no more). Hmmm, how long would THAT take? I really don't know...



Hummm... this sounds similar to the plot of THX 1138! But to answer your question, I'd say after the first time you send it in. I've taken 2 different laptops in to several different shops to look at, and they want $60-70 just to look at it, non-refundable if you decide not to have the work done, but they will credit that amount towards the total repair bill if work IS done. So, my guess is ANY repair is going to cost you over $100. Too much in my opinion for something that costs $400, especially if it happens >2 years into its life. By then, you'll be able to buy a much better computer for probably less than the original purchase price (and Obama will have us all living in urban utopias spiraling miles into the sky, flying around in our zero-point gravity rocket-cars, every whim serviced by personal robots and living 500 years thanks to Obama-Care [insert cough-masked "PONY POOP" explicative here]).

My philosophy has become to buy the extended warranty (except at Best Buy, they absolutely screw you on it), and if it lasts beyond that, try repair yourself if you have the ability/patience, or if not, its probably outdated enough that you should replace it anyways. You can always sell broken laptops on internet, you can get pretty good prices out of them for the parts, that helps some. Or, if you have several of them, take them to work and leave them all opened up on your desk... it really gives the impression that you're very busy or important.

hayedid


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baqui63 wrote:A question: are triple core processors chips that started life as quad cores and had one not work right? Or do they start life as triple cores?



They do not all start their life a triple cores. Selling a triple core allows AMD to take the Quad cores that only had one bad core and sell them instead of use them.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/why-amds-triple-core-phenom-is-a-bigger-deal-than-you-think/6334

whatsamattaU


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hayedid wrote:They do not all start their life a triple cores. Selling a triple core allows AMD to sell take the Quad cores that only had one bad core and sell them instead of use them.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/why-amds-triple-core-phenom-is-a-bigger-deal-than-you-think/6334




Edit:
Thank you, 2nd person to post a link to back up their argument!

whatsamattaU


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mary624 wrote:I'm new to this and have a basic question. When it says refurbished, does it mean someone turned in a computer and they reworked it or was there something wrong from the beginning? Thanks.



There might be a newer entry for this, but from the staff---explanation of refurbished:
http://www.woot.com/forums/ViewPost.aspx?PostID=109477

kjrehberg


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Questor wrote:The problem with buying a "triple core" system is that 25% of the silicon has ALREADY FAILED during INITIAL QA checks, what is the level of enhanced possibility there are latent problems in the rest of the silicon...



This statement is so wrong it's not even funny. All processor plates have failures in manufacturing. The processor in this laptop is from those processor dies that have one failed core on them. The failure is nearly always in the cache memory.

This increases the yield. The failed processor could be core one, two, three, or four. The design of the processor is designed for this.

They are all tested thoroughly. They are tested just like single-core and eight-core dies are. You could not be more wrong about this.

TSOG


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danwat1234 wrote:You do know that this laptop comes with a touchpad, right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchpad
It sounds like a good deal to me



Fail! I said HP TouchPad w/32GB bundle!

skytechrep


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Has Woot sold an item since 'the Day the Touchpad died' that half the comments regardless of the item for sale have not been in reference to the aforementioned tablet?

tljx


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RevLoki wrote:
The main problem is that the graphics chip has a problem where if cooling isn't sufficient, the graphics chip (which is soldered via Ball Grid Array) will become unsoldered and your laptop will exhibit weird graphics bugs, shutdowns, and even not power on at all. This is due to the design of the main board, which puts all of the chips upside down on the board with inadequate clamping of the heat sinks to the chips. This has also existed across all models of the DV series. I highly recommend using a laptop cooler pad to avoid this from happening. If it does happen, you're screwed and will have to reflow the graphics chip and reattach the heat sink.


This isn't entirely accurate. Most of the GPU related problems in the DV series occurred in those that used nVidia's mobile 8000 series GPUs, which had a design flaw that would cause them to almost certainly fail over time.

cgstuff


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I have a relatively new HP laptop with a navigation pad like this one... I hate it!! It is very hard to use... You have to click in the exact right spot of things don't work like they are supposed to at all. They really need to be 3 separate pieces. It is a failure of a design. For that reason alone, I would not purchase this laptop even though the price looks great.

jaburg


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If I hadn't just bought 10 HP TouchPads recently to sell on eBay, I would be tempted.

jdorritie


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Tempting, since I'm in the market (been using a Lenovo T60 since 2006 and it simply doesn't work with a battery anymore, I've gone through probably 4. Its a wonderful machine and its served me well, but the time is coming very very soon. The 50GB hard drive is a joke.), but after reading the comments (HP build quality, better value out there elsewhere, etc.) I believe I must pass.

Amazing how light they've gotten though. Apparently this one, with its bigger screen and everything, is only .3 lbs heavier than mine (with battery).

mikeyp30


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this is the first time i have purchased anything from woot. I bought one and tried to by another one but my card wouldn't allow it because its only allowed one online transaction a day for safety. I didn't see where you want "one""TWO" three.... blah blah... anyways i want another one can my card be charged again for another one? this was gonna be my sons birthday present... any help would be greatly appreciated..mp

shamcy


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mikeyp30 wrote:this is the first time i have purchased anything from woot. I bought one and tried to by another one but my card wouldn't allow it because its only allowed one online transaction a day for safety. I didn't see where you want "one""TWO" three.... blah blah... anyways i want another one can my card be charged again for another one? this was gonna be my sons birthday present... any help would be greatly appreciated..mp



your card can be charged but woot will only allow any given woot account to buy it once. So if you buy one then you are out of luck unless you get your wife or girlfriend or mother to buy one for you.

mblaise


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Still haven't received my item and it hasn't changed to "shipped" either. Has anyone else received this item? This is a little slow by WOOT standards.

Valacia


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mblaise wrote:Still haven't received my item and it hasn't changed to "shipped" either. Has anyone else received this item? This is a little slow by WOOT standards.



Mine hasn't shipped yet either... =(

Update: I e-mailed woot 2 hours before the 5th business day ended about my order. They replied after midnight saying that my order was in transit and attached a tracking number. Turns out they attempted to deliver the laptop yesterday but because I didn't know about it no one was there to sign for it. Not too happy right now...

lickme


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No one has stated gthe obvious: NO BLUETOOTH~~

jnevil


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**Shipping Update**

HP Pavilion Triple-Core Notebook with 15.6” BrightView LED & Blu-ray has completely shipped. All tracking has already been emailed out.

supertroller


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Got it in the mail and it looked like someone jumped on it then hit it with a hammer. Screen was smashed in the middle and the back panel was messed up.

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