I have this tent , it is easier to set up with two people. It doesn't really have two rooms , it has three , the center room by the D door is the changing or family room. My family of four with all my wife and daughters junk fit into it no problem. Thats two queen mattresses and two twins.

We bought a similar tent this summer for backyard camping. It easily held 3 cots with plenty of room to spare. Might not be great for heavy usage, but suited our casual camping needs quite well. This is $30. cheaper than the one we bought on sale.

In for one...October camping in Michigan is the best. Colors changing, cold crisp nights...now to wait for the woot shipping...

The wife was just talking about wanting to go camping. Her birthday is in 2 weeks. I HAVE to get one!

Howaboutta Sleeping Bag built for 3?

psaux wrote:I worries me that this tent doesn't have a full-coverage rainfly and, more importantly, that it doesn't come with a footprint.

I have a similar tent that had stellar reviews from a gazillion people at Walm*rt... it had the "lid" -style rain fly.

We had torrential rains when a front unexpectedly came our way while camping and, other than being rudely awoke but a body's-worth of freezing rain, we were able to get in on - in torrential rain - and stay dry. Very dry. No leaks and the lid canopy actually worked. We ended up putting it through a nice burn-in and it worked remarkably well.

dernst_ca1 wrote:This is very tempting. anyone know anything about this tent?

The reviews on amazon satisfied me.

jibal wrote:Tents keep wind and rain out, they don't keep you warm; for that you need a good sleeping bag, thermals, etc.

Apparently you've never heard of all-season tents. We might be able to use this in late July or August, but all the other camping months our out since it gets below 32 up in the mountains at night. We will stick with our smaller all-season tent and be warm.

A tent will not be the only thing to keep you warm, but if you try to use a two-season tent around here you might as well sleep outside and pray a random mountain snowstorm doesn't hit or your tent will collapse (snow storms happen here well into June up in the mountains).

Chatomairi22 wrote:Just what I need for the release of the new iPhone 5. Hopefully, this will come in the mail soon so I can set up shop in front of the store. *Nerd rage!*

Try finding a line outside an Apple store that has room for a ten that's nearly 10x20. It would take up two parking spots.

sshaw13 wrote:IMO, a tent (if it's going to be used regularly) is one of those things that it's worth the extra cost for a quality brand. The last thing you want is a leaky, drafty, weak tent with broken zippers when you're camping in less than ideal conditions. Spend the money on North Face, Kelty, Marmot, or Eureka if you're serious about camping.

I have to agree with that.

A leaky tent especially is a horrible purchase... nothing will send your butt home in a hurry like a leaky tent and therefore a wet sleeping bag.

Someone else mentioned the rainfly not being full coverage and someone commented on that saying it doesn't have to be because the windows zip up from the inside.... um... LOL.

A good tent will have a rainfly that covers as much of the tent as possible... areas with windows will have rainfly "overhangs" that protect the tent from rain that at least falls straight.

Window and door seems are the spots where a tent is the most likely to fail.. as well as the straight up and down surfaces... I will say the pitch on the windows looks angled enough to be halfway decent but to give you a comparison http://www.target.com/p/Coleman-Bayside-8-Person-Family-Tent-Orange/-/A-11117067 Now that thing is like double the price... similar size... but if you look at the sides you can see they are angled MORE and the rainfly covers more of it... the front door has a HUGE overhang to protect both the door and the person trying to get into and out of the tent. Coleman is not the best tent manufacturer.. the guy I quoted listed some better ones... however it's a step up from this.

Dome tents due to the shape shed water better than "cabin-style" tents but the rainfly is still super important.

Then you need to remember that your tent is made in like China.... so some seam sealer and water proofing spray is probably still a good bet...

But over all for sunny weather / backyard camping it looks halfway decent... but like if you want a spot on the edge of a lake (I'm a kayaker) you typically need to reserve 3-6 mths in advance... which means you are pretty locked in regardless of weather so I don't take chances on my tents.

Perhaps I'm missing something...per the description (Floor: Welded Polyethylene)...sounds to me that it does have a built in ground cover.

It is a 3-season tent by the way, so probably warm enough for the majority of campers out there.

From its specs, this tent seems exactly like one we've had for 15 years, but simple flap doors (on all 4 sides) and without the divider. We call it the "Taj Mahal" because it's huge enough to contain two queens and a king-sized inflatable mattress (that's, um, 3 mattresses :grin: ). It's been great in wet weather, too, with nary a leak, and withstood strong winds. I hope like hell this one from Woot is built as well, because I just ordered one. (If something were to happen to the old one, we'd be lost.) Great price, too. Woot!!

rebeltreble wrote:Apparently you've never heard of all-season tents. We might be able to use this in late July or August, but all the other camping months our out since it gets below 32 up in the mountains at night. We will stick with our smaller all-season tent and be warm.

A tent will not be the only thing to keep you warm, but if you try to use a two-season tent around here you might as well sleep outside and pray a random mountain snowstorm doesn't hit or your tent will collapse (snow storms happen here well into June up in the mountains).

Do what I have considered doing... put a tent inside a tent ;-p That MIGHT make 2 3-season tents a 4 season but one has to literally be at least twice as big... and the inside tent has to be a dome. It's a really inefficient way to do things but I have both an 8 man and a 4 man tent already... so it crosses my mind but has been untested as of date.

klemvore wrote:Do what I have considered doing... put a tent inside a tent ;-p That MIGHT make 2 3-season tents a 4 season but one has to literally be at least twice as big... and the inside tent has to be a dome. It's a really inefficient way to do things but I have both an 8 man and a 4 man tent already... so it crosses my mind but has been untested as of date.

Or just get a canvas tent. Ours stays super warm even in the snow (though I will bring our tent heater if the weather is going to drop below 20 at night). Canvas really is an awesome way to go for car camping. Not really feasible for hiking since they are heavy, but this tent wouldn't be a good choice for hiking either.

I'd love to purchase one of these, it's just I have such trouble setting them up.

Anyone want to help me pitch a tent... ladies?

You guys are really taking life in Seattle seriously! Geez - camping out. I see you still included (NOT part of this sale: cots! gas cookstove. Where's the generator and the table for the computer and printer?)

i know a family who uses this model for summer camping; that is what it's suited for...and i've borrowed it once for me and a friend to use on a 5 nighter; we used the divider to have our own "condos"...

it did the job...

I have a friend who owns this tent and we've used it camping a couple times. I would rate the setup difficulty at a 6. It's a little on the hard side, but certainly nothing crazy. 2 person job for sure. I would say this tents sleeps no more than 6 comfortably. The description's 7 must include children. Also keep in mind people's clothes/supplies take up room. The height inside the tent is pretty nice... in the middle. It tapers off rather quickly towards the sides obviously. Being 6' 2", I found myself always hunched over. All and all, it's a quality tent.

For those that want the whole family to sleep in one tent, this one is probably the better choice:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Trail-20-x-11-Tent-Sleeps-10/16386306
Gives everyone more floor space and A LOT more headroom.

equazcion wrote:The number of people a tent can accommodate is based on how many normal-sized sleeping bags the floor space inside can fit. If the people involved can fit in regular sleeping bags, you're probably fine.

Actually, the number of people they rate the tent at is measured by the number of mummy-style sleeping bags. They are smaller than the average sleeping back. That also doesn't account for any gear. It is always best to get a bigger tent than the number of people you really need to sleep in it.

psaux wrote:I worries me that this tent doesn't have a full-coverage rainfly and, more importantly, that it doesn't come with a footprint.

(A footprint, known in my childhood days as a "groundcloth", (Yes. I'm using British comma-quoting rules. They just make more sense.), is rather important if you want your tent to last more than a few uses as they keep sharp objects like twigs, rocks, etc... from tearing up the flooring of your tent from the underside as you walk, crawl, or sleeping-bag-inchworm around in it. As an added bonus, they can help keep the bottom drier when exposed to wet ground or even just dew, which will help in the longrun with mildew, etc... and make the tent more comfortable while in use also.)

Still ... I'm debating getting one. My current 4-season 2-person tent is far too small for car camping.

I've never seen a tent that comes with a groundcloth. It always costs extra if they make one for that model tent. Usually people just use a tarp.

I hate to beat on a dead horse. But I would have to agree with the naysayers on the effectiveness of the rainfly. It does not even cover the farthest left and right portions. In great weather, you'll be okay, but if there is any rain, (let alone a significant storm), it is going to pour in the side and soak yourself and all your gear.

I always see these tents setup at festivals, and feel bad for the people inside when their air mattress is magically transformed into a waterbed free of charge.

psaux wrote:..., more importantly, that it doesn't come with a footprint.

(A footprint, known in my childhood days as a "groundcloth", ... They just make more sense.), is rather important if you want your tent to last more than a few uses as they keep sharp objects like twigs, rocks, etc... from tearing up the flooring of your tent from the underside as you walk, crawl, or sleeping-bag-inchworm around in it. As an added bonus, they can help keep the bottom drier when exposed to wet ground or even just dew, which will help in the longrun with mildew, etc... and make the tent more comfortable while in use also.)...

I disagree with this. The only thing ground cloths are good for is keeping your tent pretty and clean. Anything sharp on the ground you should have picked up before you put your tent there.

sshaw13 wrote:Whatever. Go ahead and buy it. You will regret it. You'll regret it on camping trip number one or two when you pull up to the campsite in your car, pop the tent up for he weekend, then break the zipper off as you're trying to zip closed the door port. Then it won't close or the zipper will separate in the middle and start to "grow" until you have a gaping hole in your tent. You'll regret it when you get your first decent rain and every seam and mesh window starts to leak into the tent. Then the water will actually start to seep UP through the floor of the tent. Yeah, that's going to be a great night for you.

Not trying to sound like a pessimist or a know-it-all. Just trying to dissuade you from making the same mistake I and many others have made before you! DON'T BUY A CHEAP TENT - NO MATTER WHAT THE PRICE.

I know what you mean, but you can definitely make a cheap tent work if you spray with polyurethane sealant spray and seam seal.

I made a small $25 tent last 10 years before it had a slight tear. I camp 5-7 times per year and this tent never leaked rain.

beeseearr wrote:I disagree with this. The only thing ground cloths are good for is keeping your tent pretty and clean. Anything sharp on the ground you should have picked up before you put your tent there.

Nope, ground-cloths are meant to protect the bottom of the tent and also to keep the moisture from seeping into the tent and making those sleeping on the floor of the tent cold.

sshaw13 wrote:The last thing you want is a leaky, drafty, weak tent with broken zippers when you're camping in less than ideal conditions. . . if you're serious about camping.

Those reasons are why I prefer my 35-foot RV for my serious camping!

firebirdude wrote:I have a friend who owns this tent and we've used it camping a couple times. I would rate the setup difficulty at a 6. It's a little on the hard side, but certainly nothing crazy. 2 person job for sure. I would say this tents sleeps no more than 6 comfortably. The description's 7 must include children. Also keep in mind people's clothes/supplies take up room. The height inside the tent is pretty nice... in the middle. It tapers off rather quickly towards the sides obviously. Being 6' 2", I found myself always hunched over. All and all, it's a quality tent.

For those that want the whole family to sleep in one tent, this one is probably the better choice:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Trail-20-x-11-Tent-Sleeps-10/16386306
Gives everyone more floor space and A LOT more headroom.

Ozark Trail tents are even cheaper made tents than this one. I slept in my friend's Ozark trail the first time he used it. It rained and leaked tons of water. No thanks.

klemvore wrote:I have to agree with that.

A leaky tent especially is a horrible purchase... nothing will send your butt home in a hurry like a leaky tent and therefore a wet sleeping bag.

Someone else mentioned the rainfly not being full coverage and someone commented on that saying it doesn't have to be because the windows zip up from the inside.... um... LOL.

A good tent will have a rainfly that covers as much of the tent as possible... areas with windows will have rainfly "overhangs" that protect the tent from rain that at least falls straight.

Window and door seems are the spots where a tent is the most likely to fail.. as well as the straight up and down surfaces... I will say the pitch on the windows looks angled enough to be halfway decent but to give you a comparison http://www.target.com/p/Coleman-Bayside-8-Person-Family-Tent-Orange/-/A-11117067 Now that thing is like double the price... similar size... but if you look at the sides you can see they are angled MORE and the rainfly covers more of it... the front door has a HUGE overhang to protect both the door and the person trying to get into and out of the tent. Coleman is not the best tent manufacturer.. the guy I quoted listed some better ones... however it's a step up from this.

Dome tents due to the shape shed water better than "cabin-style" tents but the rainfly is still super important.

Then you need to remember that your tent is made in like China.... so some seam sealer and water proofing spray is probably still a good bet...

But over all for sunny weather / backyard camping it looks halfway decent... but like if you want a spot on the edge of a lake (I'm a kayaker) you typically need to reserve 3-6 mths in advance... which means you are pretty locked in regardless of weather so I don't take chances on my tents.

I agree, but the tent you referenced was from Target. If you want quality, buy from Cabelas or REI. REI can be overpriced so my wife and I got ours on sale from Cabelas. They sell quality tents.

In for 1 (considered 2), here's why:

Live in Fl & camp with the Cub Scouts about 5 times a year. This style tent is the new norm - so I've helped set up dozens just like it. My prior tent was getting a little ragged.

1. It does take 2 people to get set up or 3 if you haven't practiced before hand.
2. It is completely inadequate for heavy rain or cold below 30 or so.
3. It does ok in the wind if you set it up correctly (but replace the stakes with real ones for $5 if you can).

However, the price is about right and you really can't expect more than about 5 usages out of any tent before something leaking or breaking.

This is just as good as any other tent you could buy unless you plan to spend $500.

Absolutely do a practice setup at home and seal the seams!

jibal wrote:Tents keep wind and rain out, they don't keep you warm; for that you need a good sleeping bag, thermals, etc.

A beautiful redheaded girlfriend doesn't hurt either

I bought this exact tent @ Target years back for $50 bucks(Clearance). It was an Eddie Bauer back then. The tent is very roomy, I used it three times. Once in clear weather, twice in the rain. It leaked badly both times. It was 2 miserable nights a year apart. The 2nd years rain I was prepared as I had seam sealed the The Day the Ponies Come Back (2000) out of the rainfly. It still leaked. I gave the tent away. That being said a nice cheap blue tarp over the tent would solve the leaking problem. Just bring 2 if it's windy. (mine came with a groundcloth)

Wish i get it by Oct 7th (Friday). I just found out that my family planned a camping trip.

In for one, to make it a Woot trifecta. My wife hated/hates camping but just said to me that she would like to try it again with the kids. Perfect timing for a relatively cheap tent.

Purchased from woot, kids.woot and shirt.woot today. Could have gone for four if I didn't live in PA . . .

qex wrote:Nope, ground-cloths are meant to protect the bottom of the tent and also to keep the moisture from seeping into the tent and making those sleeping on the floor of the tent cold.

Nope, still disagree. This is, of course, talking about tarp-tub tents like this. If you have a fabric bottom then you have good reason to groundcloth.

You make it sound like I'm arguing their purpose - I'm not. I'm arguing their necessity. Especially in respect to a purchasing decision over a $70 tent.

weismangroup wrote: We've also never been able to roll it up quite small enough to fit everything back into the original sack.

Have you tried stuffing it instead of rolling it? Rolling or folding the same way every time can create repeated, localized stress in specific places and weaken the fabric; stuffing randomizes the folds. (Or such was the opinion of my former-boy-scout ex-husband.)

psaux wrote:I worries me that this tent doesn't have a full-coverage rainfly and, more importantly, that it doesn't come with a footprint.

Lots of people weighing in on the groundcloth issue, but nobody's mentioned our solution--a waterproof ripstop poncho. Inexpensive, tougher and thinner than a vinyl tablecloth, much lighter than a typical woven plastic tarp, and it has grommets in the corners if you like that sort of thing. We roll the edge under where it's a bit too big.

ionman wrote:Then dry the tent completely (say, hang in garage or basement a couple of days) before storing.

d) finally, store a small emergency sewing kit and some seam sealer with the tent. Sometimes chipmunks (or worse) make a nice hole to get at food items left in the tent.

Or set it up on the porch in the sun for a day, if you get sunny days. In my experience this dries it out much more thoroughly than hanging in the basement (our basement stays pretty humid).

I love this patch material (there are circles of it on my Kelty rainfly from 15+ years ago): http://www.amazon.com/Kenyon-Eureka-Tent-Repair-Tape/dp/B0045E1V8M We've used it on the stroller canopy and a rip in an old down sleeping bag as well. Anyone have caveats on its use? We keep the roll in the first aid kit, since there's a good pair of scissors in there already anyway.

I am going camping this weekend. Is the tent going to be here by Thursday if I order it now?

Wooted.

You wanna sell me a tent? Tell me it's got an oversize bag to put it back in. I can never get the damn thing back in the original bag without pretending to be a steamroller and even then it's tight.

might be a good buy to donate to Occupy Wall street protesters (if that's your thing, not trying to start a riot).