hbear4


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larrym20 wrote:2 years ago 3rd party batteries were locked out due to overheating and a few exploding when long videos were shot, because of this Panasonic made a hard firmware fix to all cameras to prevent this from happening again.



I bought batteries at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0032G618O and did not know about Panasonic now allowing 3rd party batteries. My camera RUNS FINE with these batteries and the deal can't be beat, 2 batteries, a charger, auto converter, USB card reader and lens cleaner. Great deal and couldn't be happier

ScottRiqui


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dpuett wrote:Have you read any of the cites I posted or read any other reviews for the camera? It is 16X optical for the FULL resolution and 33X optical for a REDUCED resolution. I have a DMC-ZS3 that is 12X for a 10 MP picture and if I reduce the picture to 3MP, the camera will go to 21X optical zoom.

From the Amazon review for my camera "Here's the sweetest part about the zoom- if you planning to use smaller prints (i.e. 4X6), you can quickly adjust the camera's Megapixel (MP) count from 10 to 7, 5, and 3 to yield maximum OPTICAL zooms of 14.3, 17.1, and 21.4 respectably, without much loss of detail on such prints."

(DMC-ZS3) From DPReview "The Extra Optical Zoom function that extends zoom power to 21.4x (at 3-megapixel resolution) by using the center part of the large CCD to bring subjects even closer without deteriorating the image quality." Same feature with the DMC-ZS10.

The DMC-ZS10 has the exact same feature with different zooms levels and resolution options.

AGAIN, the DMC-ZS10 is a 16X OPTICAL zoom for the FULL resolution and up to a 33.8x OPTICAL for a REDUCED resolution. Read the manual http://service.us.panasonic.com/OPERMANPDF/DMCZS10_ADV.PDF

This isn't the black and white situation that you and others think.




No, it truly is very simple - you're just confusing marketing-speak with reality.

The optical zoom of a lens is the ratio of its maximum focal length to its minimum focal length. Period. Full Stop. So, a lens with a focal length range of 20mm to 100 mm would have 5X optical zoom.

While it's true that going with a smaller sensor (or only using part of the sensor, which is what you're describing with the "Extra Optical Zoom" feature above) will simulate a longer maximum focal length, it also increases the minimum focal length, so the ratio between the two (the optical zoom) remains unchanged.

For example, I have an 18 -200 mm Nikon lens. That's roughly 11X optical zoom. But, that 18-200 mm lens on a digital camera with an APS-sized sensor (Nikon calls this a "DX" sensor) has the same field of view as a 27-300 mm lens on a camera with a full 35mm-sized sensor (or on a film camera). Notice how both the minimum and maximum focal lengths are multiplied by the same amount.

If I were a marketing weasel, I would use the 300 mm equivalent max focal length from the smaller sensor and divide it by the 18 mm minimum focal length when used with a full-sized sensor and then I could advertise an "optical" zoom of 16.6X.

But that would still be incorrect. You don't switch from using all of the sensor to only using a reduced portion of the sensor and then try to use one number from each scenario to figure out optical zoom - that's horrendously poor testing methodology.

This camera has a 16x optical zoom, because that's the full variation you can get on focal length without having to drop resolution.

Optical zoom is a ratio, and is a function of the elements in the lens and nothing more. The rest of the BS about reducing the resolution in order to boost the max effective focal length is just that - BS.

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Still wrong. The 16x optical is full resolution stills.

Intelligent Zoom increases zoom by 1.3x. It's basically a sophisticated digital zoom that's supposed to work with hardly any degredation of the photo quality.

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cjpowers wrote:Seriously, all of you who are correcting the OP need to get a life. If it has 21X zoom and 16 of it is optical, then the other 5X is digital. Technically it may be done by "adding" 1.3X of digital zoom, but if anyone had posted that it was 16X optical and 1.3X digital zoom there would have been 10,000 questions about what that meant. What he said was correct in layman's terms. There is 21X zoom, 16X optical. 5 is left. Duh.


This is funny. I was being sarcastic with my "seriously" comment cuz the original guy was being condescending to people who didn't know / understand the zoom value, and you follow it up with "Duh"? Seriously?!

And with a technically incorrect answer, no less... Sorry, folks, it seems like in this forum, there is such a thing as a dumb question

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hanqi wrote:What is the "21x" sticker on the camera for? the details say the camera is only 16x optical zoom.

21x digital zoom?



AFAIK if you add the electronic digital zoom to the optical lens zoom you get 21X. You're throwing away resolution to get the extra zoom as only part of the sensor is used. It's similar to taking a picture at 16X and cropping it so only the middle is used.

Jeremy

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hanqi wrote:What is the "21x" sticker on the camera for? the details say the camera is only 16x optical zoom.

21x digital zoom?



There is a difference between Optical and Digital Zoom (and yes...it is easy to identify the transition while you are zooming..they have a little line they show you in the zoom window...it is easy and unobtrusive).

Optical Zoom allows your printouts to be pretty much....what you see, is what you get.
Digital zoom, makes some assumptions (so the printouts are a litle more fuzzy).

I pretty much stick to optical zoom.

The digital will print OK for a small print...but will be noticably poorer quality once you start going up to a 5x7 or 8x10.

HOWEVER...with this camera, you get 16x optical zoom which is AMAZiNG!!

This camera is GREAT for taking VERY cool pictures on tour buses or cruises or sporting events or jungle adventures....(any where, where you are a little distant from the actual action!)

I did buy it and the pictures and zoom are excellant!!! Great buy for the price! I would recommend tht you buy it the next time it is available!!!