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Dyson DC25 All Floors Ball Vacuum

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wootalyzer


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Wootalyzer's Pricing Post! - The price of today's woot item is saved here for future reference
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Dyson DC25 All Floors Ball Vacuum
$249.99 + $5 Shipping
Condition: Refurbished

*DISCLAIMER* Wootalyzer! is in no way affiliated with Woot!, and this post may not always be here!

CowboyDann


quality posts: 701 Private Messages CowboyDann

woot must be feeling generous today. Usually we only get one color to choose from, and if we're really lucky two.

Thank you woot for so many options this time!

straightrazor


quality posts: 0 Private Messages straightrazor

Now here are some crazy powerful sucking balls!

aceasdfasdf


quality posts: 1 Private Messages aceasdfasdf

walmart has new for $450, and a ROR (Random Online Retailer) has it for $380 including shipping through google shopping.

Amazon wants $480, 480 reviews, 4 stars conglomerated.

woncoolone


quality posts: 308 Private Messages woncoolone

gideonfrost


quality posts: 31 Private Messages gideonfrost

I was just at Walmart with my girlfriend tonight and we were looking at these and I said we should wait because Woot! has them for 250 all the time.

Thanks for proving me right Woot!!

sdkammer


quality posts: 24 Private Messages sdkammer

Let me get this straight...Woot! is located in St. Louis and Dallas...the Cardinals and Rangers are in the World Series...and all you have to offer us is a blanking VACUUM????

I was hoping for a screaming flying rally squirrel...

This sucks!

Costner


quality posts: 25 Private Messages Costner

Queue the "this woot sucks" comments!

Seriously though... Dyson is the Bose of the vacuum cleaner world. It is all marketing but when put head to head with others they never come out ahead.

I know it sounds old school, but if you are concerned about air quality and want the cleanest air possible you really have to go with a bag style vac. Miele makes some amazing ones and they have been rated number one in head to head tests. Granted you have to pay a premium for them.

If you want something a bit less expensive, both Hoover and Kenmore make vacs that perform better than the Dyson for the same or less money.

I'm not saying Dyson makes a bad vacuum by any means, but they just aren't incredible. For $250 this isn't a bad deal, but keep in mind it is a refurb. You could spend that same money on a new model of another vac and probably get a longer warranty.

Don't buy into the hype. James Dyson is a marketing genius, but his vacuums aren't anything special. They are just vacuums.

Oh yea and before some Dyson owner responds to accuse me of never having used a Dyson I can assure you that is incorrect. I also do not work for a competitor. As to what I personally own... well when I bought my house it came with a central vac system by Nutone, so that is what I currently use. Previously I had a cheap Hoover and before that I had a expensive Electrolux. They all worked fine but the central vac has more power than anything around (which stands to reason considering the size of the motors), so I'm happy with it.

todaresq


quality posts: 74 Private Messages todaresq

Reading today's description brought something to light I never knew before... the motor is IN the ball.

I never really thought about it... but assumed that it was near the cylinder or something... not IN the ball.

So I googled this to check it out...

http://www.dyson.com/vacuums/ball/ has the info on that and other nifty things about their suckers.

Now I see further why they are so cool... the ball doesn't just aim the vacuum toward the crumbs on the floor, it provides the push to get there and the suck to bring it up.

Amazing technology. Now, time for bed... it fried my brains.

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gustyfoo


quality posts: 1 Private Messages gustyfoo

I bought my wife a refurb off of Ebay and it works great. This thing outshines our old Eureka. The whole thing (not just the ball and suction power) was engineered with the consumer in mind. Very convenient. Actually cleans the carpet.

Nate650


quality posts: 24 Private Messages Nate650
Costner wrote:Queue the "this woot sucks" comments!

Seriously though... Dyson is the Bose of the vacuum cleaner world. It is all marketing but when put head to head with others they never come out ahead.

I know it sounds old school, but if you are concerned about air quality and want the cleanest air possible you really have to go with a bag style vac. Miele makes some amazing ones and they have been rated number one in head to head tests. Granted you have to pay a premium for them.

If you want something a bit less expensive, both Hoover and Kenmore make vacs that perform better than the Dyson for the same or less money.

I'm not saying Dyson makes a bad vacuum by any means, but they just aren't incredible. For $250 this isn't a bad deal, but keep in mind it is a refurb. You could spend that same money on a new model of another vac and probably get a longer warranty.

Don't buy into the hype. James Dyson is a marketing genius, but his vacuums aren't anything special. They are just vacuums.

Oh yea and before some Dyson owner responds to accuse me of never having used a Dyson I can assure you that is incorrect. I also do not work for a competitor. As to what I personally own... well when I bought my house it came with a central vac system by Nutone, so that is what I currently use. Previously I had a cheap Hoover and before that I had a expensive Electrolux. They all worked fine but the central vac has more power than anything around (which stands to reason considering the size of the motors), so I'm happy with it.



Great post, thanks!

I bought this a while back from Kohl's for about $375 but ended up returning it. I can attest to your comments; in terms of cleaning power, the Dyson didn't perform any better than a fairly old Kenmore. What I did like about the Dyson though is the engineering genius of how all the parts came together and how easy it was to use.

rridgebacks


quality posts: 5 Private Messages rridgebacks

Sorry, Costner, but obviously you had a bad unit. I've had a new Rainbow, Kirby, Electrolux, and on and on, etc., etc., and NOTHING works like a Dyson. I've heard good things about the Miele, but 'pricey' is quite the understatement. If I were going to spend that much, I'd get a Dyson for each floor :0)

With a houseful of dogs, I need a *great* vacuum, and the Dyson is it, hands down.

Square Trade offers a very good deal on an extended warranty, btw. Pretty sure this purchase would qualify (forgot to check the description).

Great deal, buy three!

Costner


quality posts: 25 Private Messages Costner
Nate650 wrote:Great post, thanks!

I bought this a while back from Kohl's for about $375 but ended up returning it. I can attest to your comments; in terms of cleaning power, the Dyson didn't perform any better than a fairly old Kenmore. What I did like about the Dyson though is the engineering genius of how all the parts came together and how easy it was to use.



I do think Dyson gets points for style and convenience, but I tend to think their engineering ends there. The fact is, they brag about engineering things that have existed for decades.

They brag about cyclonic technology... something other vacuums have had in the past. I know Fantom had it, but woodworkers have used cyclonic dust collection systems for years before anyone had heard of James Dyson.

Dyson also brags about the ball and in his commercial talks about vacuums with two fixed axles, but what vacuum has two fixed axles? Some have four wheels, but none of the wheels are linked and if it does have four wheels those on the front are used for carpet height adjuments and spin freely. If the ball was really so innovative and so spectacular - why does Dyson still make so many vacuums with wheels?

One negative about the ball is the hard plastic material used for it. If someone has a lot of hard surfaces in their home like wood floors... a hard plastic ball could result in some scratches. Hard plastic wheels can too of course, but the surface area of two small wheels would generally be smaller.

Of course, what Dyson doesn't tell you is what happens if a clutch fails. I challenge anyone looking at Dyson to visit a vacuum repair shop or two and ask them how many Dysons they have in for repair on the clutch assembly. Whereas a lot of vacs use a simple belt that costs a few bucks to replace, Dyson uses a clutch system with a couple of belts and can cost over $100 to replace.

Actually visiting a vacuum repair store is probably a good idea for any brand. Those guys know what comes in to them and what doesn't, and they know what features to look for in a good vacuum.

With a new unit and a five year warranty the whole clutch thing probably isn't a huge deal. With a refurb it surely could be.

And don't even get me started on the "lifetime HEPA filter" claims. That is utter hogwash and if anyone actually suffers from allergies or asthma they should avoid a bagless vac no matter what brand it is.

2005vette


quality posts: 0 Private Messages 2005vette

I love my DC27 Animal, I would recommend a Dyson to anyone. I wouldnt trade it for any other vacuum, just remember to clean out the filter every once in a while.

vaxick


quality posts: 1 Private Messages vaxick

I bought the DC24 when it was on Woot and loved it. My father has been wanting the larger model ever since using mine and now he will have it. Can't pass up a deal like this.

Costner


quality posts: 25 Private Messages Costner
rridgebacks wrote:Sorry, Costner, but obviously you had a bad unit. I've had a new Rainbow, Kirby, Electrolux, and on and on, etc., etc., and NOTHING works like a Dyson. I've heard good things about the Miele, but 'pricey' is quite the understatement. If I were going to spend that much, I'd get a Dyson for each floor :0)

With a houseful of dogs, I need a *great* vacuum, and the Dyson is it, hands down.

Square Trade offers a very good deal on an extended warranty, btw. Pretty sure this purchase would qualify (forgot to check the description).

Great deal, buy three!



It isn't just me though. Check the performance in Consumer Reports. The simple fact is, Dyson does not perform any better than many other brands out there... yet they can cost twice as much. I have a few friends that bought them when they were becoming the "in brand". A few years later after the buyers glow has faded they are the first to admit they are just a vacuum.

As far as Miele, you can get a fully loaded S7 for around $550. That is the same price as a new (full size) Dyson. However only one of those vacuums will give you totally clean air when measured on a partical counter and only one was rated at the top of the list by Consumer Reports (hint... it wasn't a Dyson).

Again I'm not saying Dyson is bad. I'm just saying they aren't worth full retail price because much of what you are paying for is the marketing and name.

As far as buying an extended warranty... why should someone have to do that? The law of averages tells us buying warranties is a losing proposition, so if we really need one the product probably isn't worth purchasing in the first place. Maybe we should be asking why there are countless online retailers offering refurbished Dysons. Maybe we should ask why Woot seems to sell refurbs by the truckload on an almost nonstop basis.

Are we to believe all of these are simply overstock or customer returns from buyer's remorse? How many of these are refurbed due to a failure? Sure seems like there are a lot more refurbs available for Dyson than any other brand out there so why is that? Coincidence? Or could it be that they really aren't all that special or that they really do break down quite often?



carpenterty


quality posts: 4 Private Messages carpenterty

This sounds like the Apple I phone vs. The android line if phones. Each one is goingvto claim they're the best and each one are going to have there die hard followers.

Just buy the damn thing and if you don't like self it to the next sucker!

I have owned a kirby, heavy as he'll, a rainbow worked fantastic but who wants to fill it with water drag around the hose and canister and then dump that nasty water that looks like a drain clog.

I own 4 Dysons one the clutch failed another was left in storage and rusted the motor, still works but is noisy. Yes they wear out but they are efficient and do clean very, very well.

Lastly if you suffer from allergy you need a room purifier and wood floors. So ditch the carpets I did!


I look forward to reading the ---vs---- battle stories!

Costner wrote:It isn't just me though. Check the performance in Consumer Reports. The simple fact is, Dyson does not perform any better than many other brands out there... yet they can cost twice as much. I have a few friends that bought them when they were becoming the "in brand". A few years later after the buyers glow has faded they are the first to admit they are just a vacuum.

As far as Miele, you can get a fully loaded S7 for around $550. That is the same price as a new (full size) Dyson. However only one of those vacuums will give you totally clean air when measured on a partical counter and only one was rated at the top of the list by Consumer Reports (hint... it wasn't a Dyson).

Again I'm not saying Dyson is bad. I'm just saying they aren't worth full retail price because much of what you are paying for is the marketing and name.

As far as buying an extended warranty... why should someone have to do that? The law of averages tells us buying warranties is a losing proposition, so if we really need one the product probably isn't worth purchasing in the first place. Maybe we should be asking why there are countless online retailers offering refurbished Dysons. Maybe we should ask why Woot seems to sell refurbs by the truckload on an almost nonstop basis.

Are we to believe all of these are simply overstock or customer returns from buyer's remorse? How many of these are refurbed due to a failure? Sure seems like there are a lot more refurbs available for Dyson than any other brand out there so why is that? Coincidence? Or could it be that they really aren't all that special or that they really do break down quite often?



turdferg


quality posts: 0 Private Messages turdferg

Anyone else notice that the first "Y" in the description if a link to a "Nine inch Nails" video?

carpenterty


quality posts: 4 Private Messages carpenterty
turdferg wrote:Anyone else notice that the first "Y" in the description if a link to a "Nine inch Nails" video?



THAT IS AWESOME!

sixdolla


quality posts: 24 Private Messages sixdolla

Everyone knows the true test of a vacuum is to have enough suction to hold the weight of a bowling ball suspended in the air. That's the deal sealer right there. Can anyone confirm this about their Dyson?

krybaby01


quality posts: 0 Private Messages krybaby01

Another vacuum cleaner, doesn't everyone who shops here have a vacuum by now? Perhaps WOOT.COM is actually owned by Dyson and Roomba.

luk3d4wg


quality posts: 6 Private Messages luk3d4wg

Every time Woot puts up a Dyson vacuum (which is a lot!) I feel obligated to share my experience, which is that my Dyson refurb (which was as good as new) was not really any better than any entry-level vacuum. In some ways (durability) it was better, and in some ways worse (usability, like the uber-crappy wand that requires the entire cord to be unraveled before using). Sure it had plenty of suction but any modern vacuum should have more than enough suction for 99% of our typical uses.

If you're on a budget, there are plenty of vacuums that will provide great performance at a lower price including the Hoover Tempo Widepath, Bissell Cleanview, Hoover Platinum bagged, or Shark Navigator.

If you simply want the best consumer vacuum money can buy, get a Miele. They start at around $400 (yikes!) and go up from there, but they are the far superior vacuum if you can afford it and really do want the best.

I've done a detailed review of my Miele vs. my old Dyson, with video, if you are interested in learning more:

http://www.ultraconsumer.com/?p=7

DragoSanguinante


quality posts: 1 Private Messages DragoSanguinante

Hey Woot?

I know I fell asleep in my Intro To Physics class, but since when is

164 feet per second in the core separator
262 feet per second in the inner cyclone

an appropriate measurement of G-Forces?

Just curious, kthx

RobinBobcat


quality posts: 30 Private Messages RobinBobcat
todaresq wrote:Reading today's description brought something to light I never knew before... the motor is IN the ball.



Inorite?

It gets even better if you think about it: by putting the motor there, you change the center of balance and gravity, making the whole thing easier to maneuver...

I think we should all be thankful Mr Dyson likes vaccuum cleaners rather than cars. While they would no doubt be incredible, they'd probably take a little getting used to...

Meow

zikzak


quality posts: 21 Private Messages zikzak
Costner wrote:Miele makes some amazing ones and they have been rated number one in head to head tests. Granted you have to pay a premium for them.



Never regretted paying that premium as my Miele has been operating flawlessly for over 15 years. Probably saved money in the end.

allfong


quality posts: 0 Private Messages allfong

1. Did you buy your refurbished Dyson from Woot? ~ Does anyone know if woot gets their refurbished Dyson vacuums from Dyson directly? Anyone else want to comment on the quality?
2. In your opinion is it worth the $250? It's only a 6 month warranty, what's the likelihood that thing will crap out and I'll feel like a sucker for not buying a new one that comes with the 5 year warranty?

luk3d4wg wrote:Every time Woot puts up a Dyson vacuum (which is a lot!) I feel obligated to share my experience, which is that my Dyson refurb (which was as good as new) was not really any better than any entry-level vacuum. In some ways (durability) it was better, and in some ways worse (usability, like the uber-crappy wand that requires the entire cord to be unraveled before using). Sure it had plenty of suction but any modern vacuum should have more than enough suction for 99% of our typical uses.

If you're on a budget, there are plenty of vacuums that will provide great performance at a lower price including the Hoover Tempo Widepath, Bissell Cleanview, Hoover Platinum bagged, or Shark Navigator.

If you simply want the best consumer vacuum money can buy, get a Miele. They start at around $400 (yikes!) and go up from there, but they are the far superior vacuum if you can afford it and really do want the best.

I've done a detailed review of my Miele vs. my old Dyson, with video, if you are interested in learning more:

http://www.ultraconsumer.com/?p=7



mevande


quality posts: 6 Private Messages mevande

These really suck!

luckykats


quality posts: 4 Private Messages luckykats

I have two Dysons, both refurbs. I've had them for years, and I have 4 cats, a dog and a 3400 square foot house, plus we've been doing remodeling with lots of sheetrock dust and construction debris. It hasn't even fazed these bad boys. Couldn't be happier with their performance and ease of use. They are much better than other vacuums I've had in the past.

kokokokoko


quality posts: 0 Private Messages kokokokoko

I'm going to be one of "those" people and just go ahead and say that I got a DC24 - the smaller ball model - refurbished from Woot a few months ago, and it is a far higher quality vacuum than any I've owned before. And I've unfortunately owned a LOT of vacuums.

Even with two long-haired cats and a large house, the DC24 has no problems getting my floors clean. I can only imagine what a powerhouse the DC25 is. I highly recommend Dyson.

rookaloo


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With a houseful of dogs, I need a *great* vacuum, and the Dyson is it, hands down.

Ridgebacks are the best dogs ever bred!!!!!

Julia Byrd Bishop

rridgebacks


quality posts: 5 Private Messages rridgebacks
rookaloo wrote:With a houseful of dogs, I need a *great* vacuum, and the Dyson is it, hands down.

Ridgebacks are the best dogs ever bred!!!!!



While it isn't as scientific as consumer reports (which, of course, are NEVER biased nor have an agenda), I am on dog-related lists with a combined minimum of 7,000 other folks (I have 3 different breeds including a Ridgeback :0) with each involved in different activities, hence many different lists). The vacuum/floor cleaner discussion comes up at least twice a year, per list, as new people join. EVERY time, the consensus is that Dyson is The Best Vacuum Cleaner for all types of floors, in any home with dogs. Short hair or long doesn't matter. Those puppies suck up far more dog hair, as well as the dirt said dogs bring in on their feet, than anything else on the market.

I don't know why there are more refurbished Dysons; I know a lot of folks trade in their older models for a newer model, rather than tossing them as happens with most other vacuums.

Why extended warranties? Why not? If buying a refurbished unit, I would think it's a good idea to have a bit more than a 6-month warranty. If longer isn't needed, why do new models come with longer warranties?

As an aside, the Dyson customer service folks are some of the best I've ever dealt with. Had to replace a gasket my grandson removed and lost, and they were fast, super friendly, and the cost was a fraction what the Sears parts store online was going to charge me. AND, they don't charge extra to ship to Alaska.

You can put as much faith as you want in a consumer-report-type-service, or 'scientific research' results (again, of course, no agenda there ever LOL), but for me, I'll take the word of thousands of folks that have the same vacuum challenges I have. So far, so good. I'm a happy Dyson camper :0)

Oh, and it's now snowing big clumps of snow. Wonder how my Dyson would do sucking snow? LOL

jenbloom201


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allfong wrote:1. Did you buy your refurbished Dyson from Woot? ~ Does anyone know if woot gets their refurbished Dyson vacuums from Dyson directly? Anyone else want to comment on the quality?
2. In your opinion is it worth the $250? It's only a 6 month warranty, what's the likelihood that thing will crap out and I'll feel like a sucker for not buying a new one that comes with the 5 year warranty?



when I received mine from a previous Woot, it appeared to come directly from Dyson. I based this on the box/packaging which was a dyson box rather than a woot box and the shipping label, which I don't remember exactly, but recall being surprised that it appeared to have been shiped by/from Dyson as well. as I said before can't be 100% sure, but sure looked like it came straight from Dyson.

SharonBR


quality posts: 1 Private Messages SharonBR

Electrolux used to be the Rolls Royce of vacuum cleaners. I don't hear much about them anymore.

enantiodromia


quality posts: 2 Private Messages enantiodromia

Someone said to check Consumer Reports. So I did:

"Best bagless upright vacuum: Dyson DC28"

"In our tests, the DC24 excelled at cleaning bare floors. It also produced extremely low emissions when vacuuming, and did not redistribute any of the dust it collected back into the air."

There will always be people who 'hate' the nice expensive option, telling themselves that anyone 'dumb' enough to pay so much for something is clearly not smart.

Then there are the people who obsess over one detail while missing everything else, comparing spec sheets without ever actually using either device in the real world.

Then there are the people who do both, who can't wait to write the most negative review of an otherwise popular item.


Does some other vacuum have more suction at a certain part of the usage model? Probably.

Does some other vacuum cost less while providing similar suction profiles? Probably.

Is it worth paying more for a device that the average user can absolutely take completely apart, without any tools whatsoever, in order to clear blockages or clean it back to almost factory newness?

Is it worth a little more if there are no parts to ever replace?

Is it worth a little more if the design and engineering are so well thought out, that converting from upright to extension tube with accessory, takes about four seconds, and always fits perfectly back into place each and every time?

Yes, if you have a little more. A lot of people have a little more money than others, and can appreciative the sorts of things listen above.

You can pretend is 'brilliant marketing' and 'dumb consumers' all you want, but at the end of the day, most people with more money than you are not in fact, dumber than you are, and, most people with a little more money than you do not in fact like wasting their money, and if an extra expensive vacuum, laptop, phone, car, TV, or whatever, wasn't worth the money, they wouldn't continue to buy them. That means a company like Dyson would have already fizzled by now. But they haven't, have they?

Must be all those dumb rich people out there, right?

Mystic`


quality posts: 3 Private Messages Mystic`

that is about the least helpful consumer report I ever read in my entire life. It doesn't tell anything about how it performed under various conditions. Sounds more like someone that read an editorial this morning that made them made and now had something to prove.

For me, vortex/bag-less vacuums + kitty liter = :*( sorry woot! I would love something that 'excelled' on my wood floors though =)

SharonBR


quality posts: 1 Private Messages SharonBR
SharonBR wrote:Electrolux used to be the Rolls Royce of vacuum cleaners. I don't hear much about them anymore.



The reason Electrolux was considered the best was because of excellent performance, sleek looking models, and the fact that Electrolux accessories were made better than any accessories on today's vacuums.

titan119


quality posts: 0 Private Messages titan119

I recently purchased a home and before I moved in, I had it written into the final sales agreement to have the carpets professionally cleaned. So with a new house, I bought a new vacuum (a DC25 purple animal ball). On the very first pass, that thing was sucking up cat hair out of the carpet that originated from the previous owners' cats, and those carpets were CLEAN when I moved in.

The suction/vacuum power is absolutely amazing and I'm more than happy with the purchase. The brush turn-off feature is also a huge plus for cleaning my bare floors in the kitchen/dining room. The ball feature is also amazing for just gliding around corners and edges...makes vacuuming enjoyable and easy.

My labrador's hair is nowhere near a match for this Dyson (he's got the hard yellow straw-like hair, and the Dyson defeats it).

cupidsrevenge


quality posts: 0 Private Messages cupidsrevenge

The parody of Closer was great. Thanks for the early morning laugh.

luk3d4wg


quality posts: 6 Private Messages luk3d4wg
allfong wrote:1. Did you buy your refurbished Dyson from Woot? ~ Does anyone know if woot gets their refurbished Dyson vacuums from Dyson directly? Anyone else want to comment on the quality?
2. In your opinion is it worth the $250? It's only a 6 month warranty, what's the likelihood that thing will crap out and I'll feel like a sucker for not buying a new one that comes with the 5 year warranty?



1. I bought mine refurbished from Fry's. It came in a brown box and I believe carried the same 6 month warranty. Based on my own experience, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a refurb -- in fact, I'd recommend it simply because the price is a lot more reasonable for what you actually get. I'd suggest no one EVER pay retail for a Dyson.

2. $250 is what I paid, and I was still disappointed. I paid around $100 for my previous Bissell Cleanview brand new and in many ways I preferred it to the Dyson. At about $150 I might say the Dyson is a no-brainer, but for $250 I wouldn't. If you're on a tight budget, I'd highly recommend looking at something else and saving yourself $100 or more. If you're not on a tight budget and want the best vacuum you can get, look at the Miele.

And one more thing: anyone who is concerned with allergens, dust mites, etc. should really think twice about buying a bagless vacuum at all. Every time you pour that big puff off dirt into your garbage, all those germs that your fancy filtration system worked so hard to eliminate go right back into the air. Unless of course you want to empty your dirt cup outside in the middle of winter. ;)