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lifeSMART Renew 1500-watt Cool Touch Infrared Quartz Heater

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wootalyzer


quality posts: 1 Private Messages wootalyzer

Wootalyzer's Pricing Post! - The price of today's woot item is saved here for future reference
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lifeSMART Renew 1500-watt Cool Touch Infrared Quartz Heater
$99.99 + $5 Shipping
Condition: New

*DISCLAIMER* Wootalyzer! is in no way affiliated with Woot!, and this post may not always be here!

mchapin


quality posts: 1 Private Messages mchapin

This is HOT.

rileyper


quality posts: 65 Private Messages rileyper

this looks like something that'll burn my house down


abstevens


quality posts: 10 Private Messages abstevens

Here is the item on Amazon

It is listed at $163.99, so better price here on woot.

jsoko


quality posts: 9 Private Messages jsoko

"*From the makers of the Amish fire-less fireplace, we bring you...*"

ThunderThighs


quality posts: 318 Private Messages ThunderThighs

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mchapin wrote:This is HOT.


You didn't. Really, you didn't just post that, did you.

//facepalm

navysealltblue


quality posts: 0 Private Messages navysealltblue

If only I had this, hooked up to a generator, during my days without power and heat from the recent snowstorm in the northeast...

TJFoxxxx


quality posts: 12 Private Messages TJFoxxxx

Not cool, woot. Not cool at all.

ThunderThighs


quality posts: 318 Private Messages ThunderThighs

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TJFoxxxx wrote:Not cool, woot. Not cool at all.

NOW CUT THAT OUT!

tesla33


quality posts: 57 Private Messages tesla33

Kind of a scam, I'm afraid. Quartz infrared heaters have been around for a long time. If you only need your exposed skin to feel warm while you sit near it, fine - but this one is overpriced. And just one setting of 1500 watts?!? That tells me two things: it doesn't heat at all well unless it's really sucking all the current from the outlet circuit, and it's not very expensively made. Get a good ceramic fan-forced heater with multiple heat settings and an electronic thermostat for less than the half the price of this...

woottacular5566


quality posts: 2 Private Messages woottacular5566

Best Woot ever. Right before the snow season they sell an electric heater. A good one. Which is hard to come by in the electric heater arena. Thank you Woot ! For keeping me warm this winter!

Kaplan


quality posts: 4 Private Messages Kaplan
ThunderThighs wrote:NOW CUT THAT OUT!



He's warming you guys.

hpfa


quality posts: 1 Private Messages hpfa
abstevens wrote:Here is the item on Amazon

It is listed at $163.99, so better price here on woot.



Hmmm - my clicking this link shows $150.41 at Amazon. Did they just drop the price in response to the Woot? I thought Woot was owned by Amazon - you'd think they have the price coordination all worked out ahead of time. Strange.

seanlee


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i have a number of heaters, and IMO, those Infrared does a very poor job of actually raising the temperature unless it is point directly toward you.

do not get it if you want to heat up a room.

mdpierc2


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hpfa wrote:Hmmm - my clicking this link shows $150.41 at Amazon. Did they just drop the price in response to the Woot? I thought Woot was owned by Amazon - you'd think they have the price coordination all worked out ahead of time. Strange.



That's in the new product section of amazon by another seller.

MichXelle


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seanlee wrote:i have a number of heaters, and IMO, those Infrared does a very poor job of actually raising the temperature unless it is point directly toward you.

do not get it if you want to heat up a room.



Do you think all infrared heaters are created equal? You reall should check out this Manufacturer and Model before you comment.

ThunderThighs


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Kaplan wrote:He's warming you guys.

SHE!

rxbike@gmail.com


quality posts: 2 Private Messages rxbike@gmail.com

Is this like the Eden Pure ones that Bob Villa always try to sell ?

borntohunt


quality posts: 98 Private Messages borntohunt

Wow, that's Electric!


ernesto47


quality posts: 1 Private Messages ernesto47

1500 watts? it needs at least 20 amp dedicated circuit.

abstevens


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hpfa wrote:Hmmm - my clicking this link shows $150.41 at Amazon. Did they just drop the price in response to the Woot? I thought Woot was owned by Amazon - you'd think they have the price coordination all worked out ahead of time. Strange.



Strange, it changed in that few minutes since I posted.

alexsiwiec


quality posts: 1 Private Messages alexsiwiec

Don't be fooled that this is more "efficient." It's exactly as efficient as all electric heaters: 100%. It turns 100% of the 1500 watts it burns into heat, exactly like any other heater. Discussion of whether it feels warmer or cooler than other heaters is inane, as we can quantify EXACTLY how warm it is. 1500 watts.

In other words, this will add the exact same 5200 btus to your room any other electric device of 1500 watts would add (yes, including light bulbs, TVs, etc). This is just basic physics.

whatsamattaU


quality posts: 982 Private Messages whatsamattaU

Can't find company website yet, but here's a
general sales info pdf in google's format for the lifeSMART heaters in general.

tesla33


quality posts: 57 Private Messages tesla33
ernesto47 wrote:1500 watts? it needs at least 20 amp dedicated circuit.



No, a 15 amp circuit can handle up to 1800 watts. This will "hog" a 15 amp circuit, but you can still use it on one, along with maybe a couple of lights.

christopherboyce


quality posts: 1 Private Messages christopherboyce

Thanks Woot!

In for three.

These are great products and I was just talking to my parents, a few days ago, about getting one for their basement.

Great timing and an incredible price for this type of product.

tesla33


quality posts: 57 Private Messages tesla33
MichXelle wrote:Do you think all infrared heaters are created equal? You reall should check out this Manufacturer and Model before you comment.



They all work on the same principle, and with one heat setting and the box-like design, this is one of the lesser creations, I'm afraid.

wwoot


quality posts: 3 Private Messages wwoot

Watts is Watts -- and a 1500 watt heater, no matter what it is made of, gives you about 5100 BTU. You will find resistance heaters, oil heaters, ceramic heaters, carbon heaters, infra-red heaters, quartz heaters, and quartz infrared heaters -- all kinds of heaters, almost all of them rated at 1500 watts. Every one of those 1500 watt heaters puts out 5100 BTU in an hour. No exceptions.

For making heat, none is better or worse than any other. And regardless of claims, none is more efficient at making heat than any other. The thing that makes people like infrared heaters is the way they radiate heat better and farther than the typical resistance heaters with a fan.

On the other hand, since this heater has a fan and only a 10" x 2.5" (est.) opening for radiated heat, this is as much a fan heater as an infrared heater.

That said, there are some confusing statements about the output of this heater. It has only one heat setting, but it has dual heat (power) levels (750 and 1500 Watts), but there's no control switch for the heat level, but the thermostat switch puts the heater on the higher heat level when set above 77 degrees, and for larger rooms you need the higher power level, so you had better also want 77 degrees.

It's hard to figure why lifeSMART wants to tie themselves in knots trying to explain the lack of a proper heat level (power) switch; but Marketing people are like that -- high on techno-babble and low on tech. No matter, it can put out its full capacity if you turn up the thermostat, same as all the rest.

For what it's worth, I buy 1500 Watt, fan-forced resistance heaters for the lowest price available. After all, Watts is Watts.

QuantumFTL


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alexsiwiec wrote:Don't be fooled that this is more "efficient." It's exactly as efficient as all electric heaters: 100%. It turns 100% of the 1500 watts it burns into heat, exactly like any other heater. Discussion of whether it feels warmer or cooler than other heaters is inane, as we can quantify EXACTLY how warm it is. 1500 watts.



While I agree that the thermal energy put out by this device is the same as any other 1500 watt heater, that does not directly translate into the same amount of subjective "warming" sensation. Our bodies perceive warmth through the temperature of the nerves in our skin, as well as those in our respiratory tract. If one is in a stationary location in an otherwise cold building, a directional space heater can feel much warmer than an omnidirectional one, for instance. There is also a strong perceptive difference between heaters that rely on radiative transfer as opposed to advection.

As for how that applies to this particular product, I have no idea, as I've not used it.

ccw1911


quality posts: 0 Private Messages ccw1911

Why oh why would this work one bit better than a 40 dollar electric heater? or 15 100 watt light bulbs?

tesla33


quality posts: 57 Private Messages tesla33
alexsiwiec wrote:Don't be fooled that this is more "efficient." It's exactly as efficient as all electric heaters: 100%. It turns 100% of the 1500 watts it burns into heat, exactly like any other heater. Discussion of whether it feels warmer or cooler than other heaters is inane, as we can quantify EXACTLY how warm it is. 1500 watts.

In other words, this will add the exact same 5200 btus to your room any other electric device of 1500 watts would add (yes, including light bulbs, TVs, etc). This is just basic physics.



Actually, electric heaters can vary quite a bit in how well they heat a room, despite the 100% electricity-to-heat conversion. I have a little fan-forced heater that will heat a room more effectively on its 750 watt setting than my oil-filled electric radiator set to its 1500 watt maximum, because it circulates the heated air instead of just creating a 'hot zone' around itself. There are other factors as well, like how well the thermostat works and how safe it is. The only real claim to fame that quartz heaters can make is they can make your exposed skin feel warmer with less wattage than convection heaters, if both are, say, ten feet away. The trouble is, this heater only has one setting, and if you're going to use 1500 watts, almost any other heater will make better use of them to actually heat the whole room...

(edit); if WWoot is right and it has a fan and dual (if not selectable) heat settings, then it isn't a complete waste of money. It's just a pretty big waste of money. ;-)

ckaminsk


quality posts: 1 Private Messages ckaminsk

I own an EdenPure, bought it Refurb for $250... just saw that SEARS is selling them now new for almost $400. Has worked great through two COLD winters, purchased replacement bulbs off eBay just-in-case. But lifeSMART? Never heard of them. I looked at the PDF someone posted, the design in no way matches that of EdenPure (each bulb in its own copper tube... a metal that best exchanges heat).

Anyway I'm on the fence on this one. Is $99 really a good price if you can buy from Amazon for $160? I want at least 50% retail if I'm buying from Woot, so no deal today for me.

NortonsArk


quality posts: 11 Private Messages NortonsArk

This unit actually uses only 750 watts when set to a temperature below 77F (according to the description - at the end). The wattage cannot be manually adjusted except by changing the temperature setting. Raising the thermostat higher kicks in the full 1500 watts. That actually seems like a smart way to work it. As long as you keep the thermostat under 77F you're less likely to trip your circuit breaker.

editorkid


quality posts: 83 Private Messages editorkid

So maybe this isn't the use Woot envisioned for this, but is 1500 watts enough to keep my french fries hot while my cheeseburger finishes cooking?

Spectral


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ThunderThighs wrote:SHE!


ThunderThighs wrote:Eh, everyone's a he when we spot. We can't tell the difference. Kinda like all ships are she's.

Ms Thunderthighs


publicart


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christopherboyce wrote:Thanks Woot!

In for three.

These are great products and I was just talking to my parents, a few days ago, about getting one for their basement.

Great timing and an incredible price for this type of product.



Ohhhh...for a second I thought this was for heating your quartz minerals. I could not figure out why your parents would want to heat up their quartz.

danwat1234


quality posts: 3 Private Messages danwat1234
alexsiwiec wrote:Don't be fooled that this is more "efficient." It's exactly as efficient as all electric heaters: 100%. It turns 100% of the 1500 watts it burns into heat, exactly like any other heater. Discussion of whether it feels warmer or cooler than other heaters is inane, as we can quantify EXACTLY how warm it is. 1500 watts.

In other words, this will add the exact same 5200 btus to your room any other electric device of 1500 watts would add (yes, including light bulbs, TVs, etc). This is just basic physics.



+1 !

The only heating device better than 100% efficient are heat pump systems (That can be more than 300%) efficient and other heat exchanging devices.

wwoot


quality posts: 3 Private Messages wwoot
editorkid wrote:So maybe this isn't the use Woot envisioned for this, but is 1500 watts enough to keep my french fries hot while my cheeseburger finishes cooking?



Yes

robotbetty9


quality posts: 5 Private Messages robotbetty9

Now this is one HOT item that is cool to touch!


RANDOM THOUGHTS IN MY CPU:


  • FLAME ON!--except there's no flame.
  • You'll warm up to it--if you sit near it.
  • You'll be all aglow!--or perhaps it will.
  • YOu'll soon be inviting your friends over to chill--or maybe not.
  • It will ignite your passion--or really won't since it is non-combustible.
  • You will stay healthy from its healthy heat--especially if you got your flu shot already and wash your hands a lot.
  • "Uses less energy to heat the rooms you use the most often in minutes" I use a lot of rooms most often in minutes.
  • Even if you tip it over, you are protected two ways: 1. it's non-combustible so it won't burn through your floor. 2. it has a tip-over switch so that even if you were lied to and it was in fact combustible in some circumstances, you are covered either way.


Watt the heck--heck is not as hot as h ell. And this thing probably is not either.

So, stay cool--to touch--and stay well within your "healthy heat."

--Robot Betty9
www.robots-and-androids.com for robot lovers and lovers of robots.

wwoot


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ckaminsk wrote:I own an EdenPure, bought it Refurb for $250... just saw that SEARS is selling them now new for almost $400. Has worked great through two COLD winters, purchased replacement bulbs off eBay just-in-case. But lifeSMART? Never heard of them. I looked at the PDF someone posted, the design in no way matches that of EdenPure (each bulb in its own copper tube... a metal that best exchanges heat).

Anyway I'm on the fence on this one. Is $99 really a good price if you can buy from Amazon for $160? I want at least 50% retail if I'm buying from Woot, so no deal today for me.



Seems like you'd be happy to pay $104.99 for an infrared heater if you already paid $250 for one. If you want a real bargain, get a $20 1500 Watt heater anywhere.