jkane wrote:Roll your own! Seven of these

Thanks just bought two of these speakers. With the AV and these two speakers our movie night will finally be in 7.1!

cscmc1 wrote:On the contrary, there have been some incredible TT's made since the 80's, but you'll need a few grand to buy them, for the most part. If you don't have that kind of dough, try a Rega, Music Hall, etc... I get the point you're making, though -- it's cheaper to look for an old Thorens or something of that ilk at a garage sale. Those deals are few and far between these days, though.

I was referring more to turntables for the commoners. In college we had some decent Technics that were about $400 that could get to full speed in 1/4 turn. Nice cartridges...Now they have this USB I wanna pretend crap- what is the point of digitizing an analog signal? In the extreme rare circumstance that you have an analog recording that does not exist in digital medium, I could understand- but this is the exception not the rule. I am not a snob, 99.9% of what I listened to is in digital format- its easy and sounds great. But I am not going to take my Led Zeppelin album out, put it on a USB turntable and record it as an mp3. It's kind of disengenuous

lethargicmass wrote:Actually, whizzr, wonmoc couldn't be more correct -- which means that you yourself are the one who could not be more wrong. All of the necessary crossover and steering can be handled by the receiver, so there's nothing that would stop someone who wished to continue using their Bose Acoustimass 5 system with a 7.1 receiver from buying two more Bose satellites (readily available from many sources, including Amazon) and hooking them all up to this receiver. (I would differ vehemently with your opinion that your Acoustimass system is "really nice," but you are certainly entitled to your opinion on that point.)

I'm confused, though, as to why you first asked a question, then later posted as an expert to contradict someone who replied to you. Was your initial question an attempt at trolling? Or did you do some research, reach an incorrect conclusion, and then come back to use that incorrect information to bash someone who actually had some accurate advice? Just seems weird.

PWND! Touche, and +1, etc... for Lethargicmass!

lethargicmass wrote:Power conditioners are marketed at those who feel that the line voltage coming out of the wall contains enough dirt/harmonics/noise/interference to have a noticeable sonic impact on the output of the audio devices plugged into it. Anyone who believes that their system is affected by such noise would also never buy a receiver, since housing three separate audio devices (tuner, preamp, and amp) in a single chassis which share the same power supply would create at least as much sonic interference in and of itself. (Also, they would purchase extraordinarily expensive speakers which they would believe to be capable of reproducing this minute distortion.)

(Of course, they are also marketed at those who have more money than sense, like anyone who would but Monster cable.)

So if you are buying a receiver (and/or have speakers which cost less than a new car), you automatically don't fall into the category of someone who would buy a line conditioner. Unless you own any Monster Cable products; then go right ahead.

(Or maybe you simply wish to spend the money because you like buying gadgets regardless of their real-world usefulness. Go right ahead in that case as well; the economy needs more people like you!)

Here's something you can buy that scratches any credulous itch, and also can be practical: float everything on a UPS. They have cool displays with lots of irrelevant but reassuring info, will keep the entertainment flowing while the infrastructure burns down around you. Also, I like the cool-down backup (necessary for my projector) in case of outages. Sadly, we are all Monster Cabled now, albeit for a Monoprice pittance. But everything is swaddled in neoprene like Diana Rigg

BigD wrote:We are direct with Pioneer. The One year Pioneer warranty is correct as stated on the front page.

Thanks for the response. I will sleep more soundly tonight.

What happened to 2 for Tuesday?

iluvtofly wrote:"$150 for an optional Wifi adapter is insane, should have been built in at no additional cost five years ago. Also they refuse to provide a list of supported internet radio because it basically doesn't support any."



The statement above about the internet radio is way wrong!!! You have to sign up online at http://pioneer.vtuner.com and register your receiver. Then you will have access to more channels than you know what to do with some 1800+ or so ;-) The internet radio is absolutely awesome! Love it!

Download the icontrolAV2 app for your Android phone at the marketplace and you will surf all over the world in no time :-)

Hook up the receiver to a WiFi router via an Ethernet cable. Then you don't have to buy the optional expencive WiFi/Bluetooth adapter for the receiver.

lethargicmass wrote:Actually, whizzr, wonmoc couldn't be more correct -- which means that you yourself are the one who could not be more wrong. All of the necessary crossover and steering can be handled by the receiver, so there's nothing that would stop someone who wished to continue using their Bose Acoustimass 5 system with a 7.1 receiver from buying two more Bose satellites (readily available from many sources, including Amazon) and hooking them all up to this receiver. (I would differ vehemently with your opinion that your Acoustimass system is "really nice," but you are certainly entitled to your opinion on that point.)

I'm confused, though, as to why you first asked a question, then later posted as an expert to contradict someone who replied to you. Was your initial question an attempt at trolling? Or did you do some research, reach an incorrect conclusion, and then come back to use that incorrect information to bash someone who actually had some accurate advice? Just seems weird.

You are twisting my posts around. Are YOU trolling? I know my Acoustimass. I do NOT know this receiver. My original post was whether the receiver would support 5.1, which I did not know. What I DO know is that you can NOT add two more speakers to an Acoustimass system that was built and designed to do 5.1 audio. The speakers must be connected through the subwoofer, and as I already said (and you QUOTED ME saying it, so I don't see how you missed it) there is NO PLACE TO CONNECT THE SPEAKERS. Hooking them to the amp would bypass the Acoustimass' audio processing, resulting in no sub-woofer output for the additional two channels.

cscmc1 wrote:Agreed -- couldn't have said it better myself. There's nothing magical about a "7.1" speaker... no alterations to the crossover or anything of the sort.

Sorry, but YOU are wrong too. We were talking about th Bose Acoustimass, which, regardless of what you self-annointed experts think, can NOT be magically converted to 7.1 simply by hooking up more speakers. It's advice like this that is why people have so much trouble with technology.

gak0090 wrote:I was referring more to turntables for the commoners. In college we had some decent Technics that were about $400 that could get to full speed in 1/4 turn. Nice cartridges...Now they have this USB I wanna pretend crap- what is the point of digitizing an analog signal? In the extreme rare circumstance that you have an analog recording that does not exist in digital medium, I could understand- but this is the exception not the rule. I am not a snob, 99.9% of what I listened to is in digital format- its easy and sounds great. But I am not going to take my Led Zeppelin album out, put it on a USB turntable and record it as an mp3. It's kind of disengenuous

Fair points! Keep an eye out, though, and those old nice tt's DO turn up at garage sales, Craigslist, etc... I have an Empire 598 that I installed a Formual IV arm on (all for under $150), and then added a Grado Signature Jr. cartridge to. It's fantastic. I'm in the same boat you are, though -- 98% of my listening is to digital formats these days (out of convenience and time constraints, more than anything).

whizzr wrote:Sorry, but YOU are wrong too. We were talking about th Bose Acoustimass, which, regardless of what you self-annointed experts think, can NOT be magically converted to 7.1 simply by hooking up more speakers. It's advice like this that is why people have so much trouble with technology.

Don't think so. The only powered portion of your Bose system (if it's anything like the one I am familiar with) is the sub. All you'd need to do is hook up the LF lead to the sub output on the receiver, then use the speaker outputs (on the receiver) to hook the satellites directly up to the receiver. The Bose bass module doesn't do any processing or amplification to the satellites, does it? It's just a pass-through, from my understanding. Bypass it. No biggie.

EDIT: and if you don't want to bypass the module altogether, you CAN just add the extra 2 speakers directly at the receiver connection. Why couldn't you do so? The other speakers all feed from the speaker-level outputs in the receiver, right? So what's the problem?

mkentosh wrote:What happened to 2 for Tuesday?

Yeah? I can use one of these in the Master Bedroom!

I just got my email that my unit has shipped. That was fast!! But it's coming smartpost, so I hope to get it before christmas.

Got my shipping to. Since it shipped how long do you think it will take to get here? I have next week off and it would be sweet if I got it time for thanksgiving.

ericweintraub wrote:Got my shipping to. Since it shipped how long do you think it will take to get here? I have next week off and it would be sweet if I got it time for thanksgiving.

My Smartpost from the last woot-off came in pretty short order. I was pleasantly surprised... I think it took ~4 days in transit. Not bad at all!

Got mine today

Wow -- mine's out for delivery. Once again SmartPost kicks FedEx Ground and Home's butt. Thanks, Woot!

DAMN IT...that one day I'm traveling and cut-off from woot (to Singapore) this comes up! I've been looking for one of these for the 60" HD 3D plasma! WAY too many HDMI cables running behind the thing, having ONE cable to the plasma and on to the sound system would rule...day late and a dollar short...WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Smartpost is not smart. It should be called slowpost. My package is sitting since two days one hour away from my town. I could have picked it up by myself. It should arrive today but nothing. So it looks like I am not getting it before the holidays. Thanks Smartpost and really disappointing after sales service.

I am looking at this device as it was delivered this evening. I plugged it in long enough to make sure that it powered on, plugged in the included FM radio antenna and put a quarter to eighth inch converter with random earbuds in the headphone jack on front, radio played.

Unit fires up just fine so far under this level of testing, but getting FM radio over the headphone jack is not much of a test.

Remote operates previously owned Pioneer equip w/o any programming.

I cannot wait to test out the various other features of this, I will post back later...

OK, got it set up, networked easily with DHCP set on router, tons of internet radio stations pre loaded, easy to add new stations thru simple web form. Able to control ipod on screen.

Sounds better than the Pioneer VSX D-812-k I swapped it out for, seems to have a better FM tuner.

Completely pleased with this purchase

I set mine up, and found a bug.

I have an "older" external HDTV tuner, hooked to a 42" HD monitor. The HDTV tuner has DVI (digital video) and optical toslink (digital audio) outputs. I use a DVI to HDMI converter cable.

If you use the HDMI for video input, you cannot select the digital audio as an audio source. It will only use the HDMI input for audio source. I have to output the video directly to the monitor, then select SAT/TV on the receiver for the audio.

This defeats the whole reason that I purchased this for: putting the video through the receiver.

So now I will have to purchase a new big-screen TV (>=42"). Will woot! help me out with this?

I finally figured out how to use a different audio source with a HDMI input. (I read the manual)

When switched to the video source, on the remote push the RECEIVER button, then the SIGNAL SEL button. This will allow you to chose the audio input to go with the video input.

All is now good in Packer/Badger Land.

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If you missed out on this deal, then here's your second chance.
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Happy Holidays!

Defective! Right out of the box. No lights. No power. NOTHING. Called Pioneer. 30 mins on hold to confirm she's dead out of the box. NOT HAPPY. Email sent to Woot for return/replacement. Probably can't wait for that all to happen. I purchased all new equipment for our media room and need it up and running well before xmas. WOW. Thoroughly bummed with this product.

After Woot-ing for 7 years, this may be it. A $300 item via Smartpost? Unit is gone, never arrived though FedEx shows delivered to addressee. Tried to track it so that I could be home to receive delivery, but given the highly variable Smartpost method, I missed it. Some shmuck helped himself and I'm out $300.

Anyone having an issue with Airplay? I can use the iAV remote with my iPad and iPhone but I cannot get it to connect at all. Called Pioneer tech support and didn't get much help, they said it should be working without a problem. Any help would be great.

I have the system connected via Ethernet and a D-link DIR-655. Thanks.

higginsar wrote:Anyone having an issue with Airplay? I can use the iAV remote with my iPad and iPhone but I cannot get it to connect at all. Called Pioneer tech support and didn't get much help, they said it should be working without a problem. Any help would be great.

I have the system connected via Ethernet and a D-link DIR-655. Thanks.

Make sure your receiver is set to "Home Media Gallery". Also, check the device you're trying to play music from--there should be a little square in the bottom right-hand corner of I-tunes (or the "music" screen on your i-phone) that lets you choose the VSX-1021 as the speaker output (instead of the device). If you can use your ihpone or ipad remote with the receiver, you should be able to use AirPlay--good luck!

+1 on this. I did get mine, but only because my super happened to notice it sitting in the lobby and grabbed it (since SmartPost usually ends up with USPS here in NYC, they don't have to actually deliver it to a person and get a signature; they can just dump it wherever they leave the mail).

Shipping a $300 item in a box that says what it is and not requiring any sort of signature? Really, Woot?

pogomoso wrote:After Woot-ing for 7 years, this may be it. A $300 item via Smartpost? Unit is gone, never arrived though FedEx shows delivered to addressee. Tried to track it so that I could be home to receive delivery, but given the highly variable Smartpost method, I missed it. Some shmuck helped himself and I'm out $300.

When I saw this on Woot, I did some checking but was too late to purchase. Found it on Amazon for 299. got it hooked up and love it.

Yea... SmartPost is ridiculous for something like this...

My receiver hasn't updated since the 23rd... FedEx is researching it as it never even made it to USPS... Come ON!!! Soo not happy right now!

steve6611 wrote:Make sure your receiver is set to "Home Media Gallery". Also, check the device you're trying to play music from--there should be a little square in the bottom right-hand corner of I-tunes (or the "music" screen on your i-phone) that lets you choose the VSX-1021 as the speaker output (instead of the device). If you can use your ihpone or ipad remote with the receiver, you should be able to use AirPlay--good luck!

Yeah I got it, it was something to do with the darn router(D-link), had to turn on Multicast mode through the router settings, after that it popped right up. Working great right now, now just to find the right speakers, because if these old phillips work like they are(best they ever sounded) then I can't wait to get a real system.

Edit: Nevermind, my TV's optical port only works as a switch or something to that nature, going through the cablebox fixed it.

The sound is good, setup through the computer is nice too. However, this unit DOES NOT have HDMI pass through. When it is off, the unit will not send anything to the TV. Also, the unit DOES NOT allow sound through the HDMI out. It intercept it and only send picture.

If anyone knows diffrent, please email me at ke6irj (at) yahoo (dot) com and help me. I read these features were included, so I am disappointed.

I ordered this receiver on 11/15. The item never arrived. I contacted Fedex Smartpost to place a tracker on the item and they can't seem to find it. They told me that I needed to contact the vendor.

I contacted Woot a week ago tomorrow and they have yet to reply to my request. I asked them to please send another unit out or refund my money. Nothing.... Poor service to say the least.

DennisWKam wrote:Sorry, we promise it's not personal. It looks like your emails got stuck in our SPAM filter. I'll fish it out and reply to your email.

I have yet to receive this order as well. Fedex page says its still in transit. Contacted Fedex but no luck. Please advise.