woottoady wrote:I don't get it... few buyers in ID, ME, MT, ND, NY and WY, but plenty in GA, SC and TX.

This is a heater folks, not a swamp cooler ;)

It's freakin' cold here in Texas today. Good timing for a heater to be on sale.

tailings wrote:I do appreciate this advise, having been through a catastrophic fire in the past year, (not caused by a space heater, BTW).

I am curious what a firefighter would recommend as a safe AND economical method of heating a small space. Mixing batches of plaster might do the job, but it's messy and produces a lot of waste.

Thanks!

,

<--Not a Firefighter
I really like electric radiators. They don't get too hot, the only light they put off is the power light, and have a ton of surface area and can maintain the temperature in a small space.
When I lived in a place with leaky windows and no central anything I used an old gas heater to get the room warm, then I would shut that off and use just the electric radiator. It would keep the room warm enough to sleep the whole night.
The heater was also good when you first came in from the cold, because you could put your hands directly on it to warm them up.

zxinfinity wrote:Happy Birthday!! Today's my birthday too! Little disappointed at today's sale as well...

You guys should go over to Shirt.woot and pick up the glow-in-the-dark mouse shirt if you dont like todays woot sale. Shirt looks pretty cool.

Due to the vertical positioning, fat drains much more efficiently than the George Foreman grill. Highly recommended for health conscious foodies!

cvargo1 wrote:how safe would this be to have with a wild puppy in the house.

On the downside, a wild puppy could easily knock one of this puppies over. However, depending on how you like your puppy done, it could save you money on your grocery bill.

MichXelle wrote:I call it a portable heater, not a space heater. Any difference?

There's no appreciable difference if you place the portable heater in a space.

rsthall wrote:My point WAS that the cost of a NEW one isn't so much..... I'd rather have new with good manufacturer's warr. and that I didn't like the idea of refurbing something like this. Seems like it could be a safety issue ... generally unlike a refurb Sansa clip!

Fear not, the refurbished unit comes with a refurbished warranty.

bubbachuck wrote:What about dying sperm?

Anyone wanting to throw their underwear on a space heater will hopefully experience dying sperm... this is called Social Darwinism.

mattryan wrote:wonders if it roasts marshmellows?

Quite possibly. I know it will convert a cute fluffy kitten into a cuddly flaming fireball... (Just a joke Baz)

mohavemarv wrote:It should go w/o saying but I'll say it anyway, DO NOT USE EXTENSION CORDS with these high amp heaters.

Extension cords are fine as long as one with a suitable rating is used properly. You have to make sure it's rated for 15 amps (12 or 14 gauge), and don't do stupid things like put objects on top of it (including carpets) or plug multiple devices into it. Many extension cords are lightweight (15-16 gauge) and only rated for 10-13 amps. Using one of those will create a fire hazard. The type sold for air conditioners are rated for 15amps and will work fine.

ivanivanovich wrote:This bears repeating a few times.

The compromise I've made with myself is to never leave one running unattended, a rule carried over from Boy Scout days when you didn't plug your "heater" into an outlet, you gathered up dead branches to feed it.

So what would you all suggest for us? We have a room that have been converted from a patio into an enclosed room. There is no way to extend heating vents out to it unless we spend $15,000 which makes no sense for a 400 sq. ft. room. My husband hate fireplaces and refuses to put one in and wood stoves are expensive. I don't want to pay more than $150 for a heating solution for that room. Since it is in the back of the house it is mostly unattended unless we are out there working.

woottoady wrote:I don't get it... few buyers in ID, ME, MT, ND, NY and WY, but plenty in GA, SC and TX.

This is a heater folks, not a swamp cooler ;)

First of all, swamp coolers are way out of date, no one uses them here any more, they went out of use 30 years ago. Secondly, you show the rank ignorance of most Yankees when you don't realize that it gets FREAKIN' cold here in the winter. Also, we are NOT all toothless, bigoted, inbred rednecks. That's up in Arkansas! JK

Save the sales receipt for the fire inspector where it says "refurbished' ...........

When I have my 14 year old daughter with me, she's always cold and cranking up the heat. Perfect timing, Woot. I'm in for one, based on the great reviews.

I bought this same model last year, and it works great. I mostly use it to keep the bathroom warm on cold winter days, or just when you want a warm breeze in a chilly room. Seeing how well it is built, I've never had any concerns about fire.

techie413 wrote:I bought this same model last year, and it works great. I mostly use it to keep the bathroom warm on cold winter days, or just when you want a warm breeze in a chilly room. Seeing how well it is built, I've never had any concerns about fire.

How much noise does the fan generate? I have a small ceramic heater type, quit noisy. I am looking for a heater for my home theater, need as quite as possible.

jdpman wrote:ivanivanovich, I appreciate you trying to look after the safety of stupid people, but mattdiem said he tried building a fire inside the tent. INSIDE THE TENT. Please tell me that at least you realized it was a joke when you read that.

SHORT ANSWER
You're right. I thought that one statement was a joke, but being ot-nay oo-tay ight-bray myself, I didn't carry that thought back into the rest of the post.

ANSWER LENGTHENER
I said that tent-dwelling experts at dwelling in tents just added insulation, but this option only became easily and fashionably available after the invention of geese, and therefore goose down, and the nylon fabric necessary for holding piles and piles of it against the body.

Pre-Columbian nomadic North Americans (that is, Plains Indians) hadn't reached this point. So ... "Tipis are distinguished from other tents by two crucial innovations: the opening at the top and the smoke flaps, which allow the dweller to cook and heat themselves with an open fire, and the lining that is primarily used in the winter, which insulates while providing a source of fresh air to fire and dwellers...."

bpeterson82 wrote:Thanks woot, for selling a dad-gum space heater on my birthday...I am dissapoint

zxinfinity wrote:Happy Birthday!! Today's my birthday too! Little disappointed at today's sale as well...

Mine three! What kind of birthday woot were you wishing for?

rebeltreble wrote:So what would you all suggest for us? We have a room that have been converted from a patio into an enclosed room. There is no way to extend heating vents out to it unless we spend $15,000 which makes no sense for a 400 sq. ft. room. My husband hate fireplaces and refuses to put one in and wood stoves are expensive. I don't want to pay more than $150 for a heating solution for that room. Since it is in the back of the house it is mostly unattended unless we are out there working.

I'm curious, why do you need to heat a room you're not in?

Get a space heater like this one, turn it on 5 minutes before you go out there to work, and sit near it. Turn it off when you leave. No?

rebeltreble wrote:So what would you all suggest for us? We have a room that have been converted from a patio into an enclosed room. There is no way to extend heating vents out to it unless we spend $15,000 which makes no sense for a 400 sq. ft. room. My husband hate fireplaces and refuses to put one in and wood stoves are expensive. I don't want to pay more than $150 for a heating solution for that room. Since it is in the back of the house it is mostly unattended unless we are out there working.

Look into ventless gas heaters.

woottoady wrote:Get a low EMF electric blanket. Much more effective (until you get out of bed).

Thanks. That's a good idea. Hadn't given thought to an electric blanket overnight but worth looking into.

rickhayward99037 wrote:I'd look for a different unit for your need. I've seen a small black quartz heater, that has a fan behind it that might be a better choice. You would be heating the air that way, and there's no bright red light showing.
Just remember that any electric heater is expensive to run.

Thanks. Have one of those somewhere! Not drafty per se in her room so that this sunbeam thing can topple. Just a few degrees cooler than rest of the house enough to draw complaints to raise the thermostat which overheats the other bedrooms on second floor which raises my oilheat tab considerably!

txchoo wrote:First of all, swamp coolers are way out of date, no one uses them here any more, they went out of use 30 years ago. ... Also, we are NOT all toothless, bigoted, inbred rednecks. That's up in Arkansas! JK

I'm suppressing all kinds of comments about people who consider it out-of-date to combine a small pump and a fan with the awesome, beauteous Power of Nature to evaporate humble water with hot, dry air.

But then, as I noted elsewhere, I'm not exactly the sharpest Jim Bowie knife in the rack myself.

jeffiekins wrote:Let me put on my Physics teacher hat. It's here somewhere. Oh, there it is!

Okay, first: ALL electric heaters (except heat pumps) convert 100% of the power they use into heat in the room.

Since you wore the Physics teacher hat, now it's my turn Your statement that electrical heaters convert 100% of the power to heat needs some clarification: It's only at the point of use that the heater is 100% efficient. If the heater has a fan.. it's not 100% efficient. Also, even the source below, forgets that heating elements that emit light... are obviously not 100% efficient because it's creating mostly heat... but some light. Anyway, just felt like splitting hairs on this one, haha. Oh, and the source below has some great information about electric heaters in general.

Source: http://www.green-energy-efficient-homes.com/energy-efficient-electric-heaters.html

txchoo wrote:First of all, swamp coolers are way out of date, no one uses them here any more, they went out of use 30 years ago. Secondly, you show the rank ignorance of most Yankees when you don't realize that it gets FREAKIN' cold here in the winter. Also, we are NOT all toothless, bigoted, inbred rednecks. That's up in Arkansas! JK

Assuming a swamp cooler is the same as an evap cooler, Wishbones? Totally Fun! are you talking about? I live in AZ and they're a staple here. Maybe in TX you have too much humidity or something for them to operate well, but I can assure you they're not out of date in the real (not TX) world.

tailings wrote:I do appreciate this advise, having been through a catastrophic fire in the past year, (not caused by a space heater, BTW).

I am curious what a firefighter would recommend as a safe AND economical method of heating a small space. Mixing batches of plaster might do the job, but it's messy and produces a lot of waste.

Thanks!

,

Unfortunately, nothing short of your houses heating (when properly maintained) would fall under a firefighter’s definition of “safe.” These things just catch fire way too often.

psychomuse wrote:Fear not, the refurbished unit comes with a refurbished warranty.

Consider keeping that in a fireproof lockbox or safe deposit box.

I bought this at Walmart for about $15 more. So far it does a better job than any of the little ceramic space heaters I've used to warm up my office over the years.

my mother keeps the heat so low that she's had pipes burst that were internal to the house (i.e. not in walls facing the outside). Becomes an issue when the holidays come and everyone (75+ people) smooshes into the few warm rooms. if they all smooshed into the cold rooms, then those rooms would no longer be cold, but whatever.

In for 3, and hopefully less Christmas crowding.

I love these little heaters to take around the house with me so I don't have to turn the heat up in an entire zone. I DID order one, HOWEVER, I wonder, with THIS many heaters of this particular brand and model, to have so many that are refurbed . . . how can that be ?

Did that many people return them ? Were there so many that were defective ? Seems like a lot of one product to be refurbed, just like all the other refurbs I guess.

NoSup4U wrote:Assuming a swamp cooler is the same as an evap cooler, Wishbones? Totally Fun! are you talking about?

Haha! You said, "WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT"!

Have one of theses toasting my feet now. Except I got the deal of a lifetime. My friends landlord dropped it off in his apartment a year ago and I got it come spring.

baught this for my girl like 9 months ago and she uses it daily!!, we got it at wallmart for more than 50, & i actually just saw the exact same one at wallmart again for 49.99 i belive.. overall good heater..

RaisinROM wrote:I love these little heaters to take around the house with me so I don't have to turn the heat up in an entire zone. I DID order one, HOWEVER, I wonder, with THIS many heaters of this particular brand and model, to have so many that are refurbed . . . how can that be ?

Did that many people return them ? Were there so many that were defective ? Seems like a lot of one product to be refurbed, just like all the other refurbs I guess.

Refurb is not really the scary thing a lot of people think it is. Refurb happens for a lot of reasons - most often buyer's remorse, unmet/too high expectations, and yes, product issues.

Will say though any time I've gone the refurbished route I've actually enjoyed knowing the product has been looked over, tuned up, and even sometimes probably had parts swapped out inside for ones that are even better than the original sale item.

In short, valid concern, but it isn't quite as bad as people think it is.

zoomtard wrote:I'm curious, why do you need to heat a room you're not in?

Get a space heater like this one, turn it on 5 minutes before you go out there to work, and sit near it. Turn it off when you leave. No?

It is my future plant grow room (nothing illegal, just herbs, seeds starters, hydroponic vegetable for the winter, vermicomposting system, etc.) and my husband's small-scale saltwater coral farm. It needs to stay at 75-80 degrees constantly for what we want to use it for, but I don't expect to spend my evening out there.

I agree! I've never had a problem, especially if it's factory refurbished. If I can get it 1/3 cheaper as refurbished and there's some warranty, why buy new? I buy all my cars refurbished :-)

inkycatz wrote:Refurb is not really the scary thing a lot of people think it is. Refurb happens for a lot of reasons - most often buyer's remorse, unmet/too high expectations, and yes, product issues.

Will say though any time I've gone the refurbished route I've actually enjoyed knowing the product has been looked over, tuned up, and even sometimes probably had parts swapped out inside for ones that are even better than the original sale item.

In short, valid concern, but it isn't quite as bad as people think it is.

I bought one of these for $50 last week at Walmart and it had been great for my basement/TV room and I have even been carrying it up to my bedroom at night. I'm in for one so I don't have to lug it up two flights of stairs when it's bed time. It gives off great heat and I have between running it for 10+ hours a day with no issues.

NoSup4U wrote:Assuming a swamp cooler is the same as an evap cooler, Wishbones? Totally Fun! are you talking about? I live in AZ and they're a staple here. Maybe in TX you have too much humidity or something for them to operate well, but I can assure you they're not out of date in the real (not TX) world.

Same here. Our swamp cooler is probably twenty years old, but works awesome for the summers here in MT. We only have a couple weeks where the humidity gets too high for it to be totally effective, but it still keeps the house about 75 degrees which is liveable. We are in MT and I know some new houses being built with swamp cooler systems over central air central since they use far less electricity and electricity is expensive around here (water is cheap).

In fact we went to a farm store over the summer to get gardening supplies and they had about ten different models of swamp coolers on display. If they are still making them then people are using them.

woottoady wrote:I don't get it... few buyers in ID, ME, MT, ND, NY and WY, but plenty in GA, SC and TX.

This is a heater folks, not a swamp cooler ;)

But it's s-s-s-so c-c-c-c-coooold here in Houston. It's supposed to get down to 45 tonight. Forty-FIVE! Really kidding. I like to think Northerners have more, shall we say, "inventive"? ways to keep warm!

psychomuse wrote:On the downside, a wild puppy could easily knock one of this puppies over. However, depending on how you like your puppy done, it could save you money on your grocery bill.

WAHHHHHHHH! Hilarious!