Even at a low price Singer makes great machines. The one my sister has is about 20 years old, still working great, and it was one of the less expensive ones. How often now a days can you buy something for a couple hundred and have it last for twenty years?! This is a good deal and I wish I were buying it, but I really don't need two sewing machines...

unome wrote:One of the Amazon reviews says it's hard to find needles for the serger.

Amazon customer reviews

Can someone who owns one of these corroborate?

That review is for a different model of serger. It appears that this one is at least a little different (No metal cap to get hot, 2 height settings on the presser foot.)

Singer is owned by Husqvarna Viking who also owns Pfaff and White. They are both great beginner machines.They do not compare to the older models that were made in with metal gears but when you get them for this great price they are well worth the price.

The serger does take 2022 needles, which may also be ELX 705 needles, which my CoverPro uses- I have not been able to find them locally, but they are readily available online.

ETA- the gears were never all metal. Even in 1951, they used a "textolite" gear which I think is nylon and sawdust.

I have not sewn since middle school but I am interested in picking up sewing as a hobby for crafts, clothing, home decor, etc. I was planning to get a brother sewing machine from amazon because it has the best reviews. I'm not sure about this but it seems like a good deal... does anyone have either of these exact models that can comment on them? someone please convince me one way or the other!

DrOcto wrote:I have not sewn since middle school but I am interested in picking up sewing as a hobby for crafts, clothing, home decor, etc. I was planning to get a brother sewing machine from amazon because it has the best reviews. I'm not sure about this but it seems like a good deal... does anyone have either of these exact models that can comment on them? someone please convince me one way or the other!

If you don't have a machine already, I would go for it. It's not going to be great, and this machine will frustrate you at times, but that's true of anything in this price range, and sergers are really, really handy to have.

unome wrote:One of the Amazon reviews says it's hard to find needles for the serger.

Amazon customer reviews

Can someone who owns one of these corroborate?

This review isn't for the machine and serger being offered today.

jeparz wrote:I don't cook and I don't sew BUT I did buy the last combo and it was $70 more (my wife enjoys sewing but not fixing cars = trade off). This is the Singer Scholastic and the earlier one was the Singer ET-1 Perfect Finish. I hope the ET-1 IS $70 better. My guess is that the sergers are the same. I got tired of "investigating" this since I have what I have and I'm not getting this. My curiosity is satisfied so I thought I'd share.

Thanks for clearing that up! I did realize after I hit the buy button that they weren't the same but I suppose its ok since you mentioned it is $70 cheaper.

I'm just a beginner when it comes to sewing machines anyways so I probably wouldn't know the difference. I usually make little things like pouches or doll clothes which I always handsewed and then used fraycheck on (or lined the inside). A sewing machine should makes things much faster! My mom has an old old Singer that I used once in awhile but she wanted it back so I figured I'd get this deal now that it popped up again.

I don't plan to sew anything heavy duty like leather, but will this hold up to things like fleece?

you are out of touch. Old Singers lasted forever. the new singers are not the same. Look at Bernina, Elna and NewHome instead. I have a 1959 singer...but would not even take a free one made today. I am a very experienced sewer. been sewing for myself and others for 40 years.

sewmuch2do wrote:you are out of touch. Old Singers lasted forever. the new singers are not the same. Look at Bernina, Elna and NewHome instead. I have a 1959 singer...but would not even take a free one made today. I am a very experienced sewer. been sewing for myself and others for 40 years.

I have used Bernina which is great and currently use a computerized Elna... also great and stable. forgot to put that in my original message. My serger is a NewHome 5thread w/coverstitch.

moonrock wrote:I'd potentially buy one if it was JUST the sewing machine. I don't need a sewing machine *and* a serger. Why would you buy both?

Because you would pay more for just the sewing machine.

mbk21 wrote:They do different things, really. A sewing machine does all the stitches and stuff that we're used to seeing sewing machines do. A serger does edges and hems and the like. These guys explain it well: http://sewing.about.com/od/sergersoverlock/ss/serger.htm

Also I've done all the research, and your name does not, in fact, have to be Sergio for you to purchase and successfully operate a serger. (But it helps.)

Thanks for explaining it to

"moonrock" who wrote:
I'd potentially buy one if it was JUST the sewing machine. I don't need a sewing machine *and* a serger. Why would you buy both?

Great information! I told him or her that the price is cheaper than buying just the Singer sewing machine.

I use an old Singer that's almost 100 years old and works great for my needs plus it's pretty to look at. I'm not the best at sewing so I use it for basic hems or to slim my slacks that are made too wide. I like them real snug.

funda62 wrote:They do very different things. A serger finishes the seams of garments. It can't do simple mending, sew on a button, or do top-stitching. I sew clothing and quilts and can't live without both!

I guess so. I don't sew that much but can get away with french seams on just about everything. Not so great on denim and thick fabrics but whatever. So yeah, for a dollar why not get both.

I'm still surprised that woot is able to sell sewing machines so well. Pretty awesome woot!

It always reminds me of the invention my co-workers mom created. The one second needle. It has gotten picked up by "as seen on TV" which is pretty amazing.

I'm losing weight and looking forward to altering my scrub uniforms instead of buying new. That savings alone will pay for these in a matter of weeks.

My old machine gave out several years ago, and I never replaced it after joining the world of working women.... unless these are outright lemons, they appear to be great for hobby sewing and the occasional altering, mending, and hemming. And the price is right!

Cocontom wrote:If you don't have a machine already, I would go for it. It's not going to be great, and this machine will frustrate you at times, but that's true of anything in this price range, and sergers are really, really handy to have.

Thanks for the reply! I don't have one so I am going for it. Can't wait to start sewing!

Probably the most expensive thing I've ever almost impulse bought. I love sewing. I did some research, THEN I bought them! Great value for two awesome machines!!

I kicked myself for not getting this last time, but actually glad I waited, saved $70. I don't sew everyday, just teaching myself, very slowly, so this is perfect for me, didn't need the fancier one.

Should have a good long life - it's a Singer with a warranty! The serger does a rolled AND an overlock hem!! Super excited for such a great deal - will help with wear and tear on my embroidery machine! That can now be a dedicated machine for embroidering only!!

skywarrior3 wrote:Would this be able to sew leather or thick fabrics?

You need to get the proper needle to sew through leather & thicker fabrics. The universal needle machines usually come with may work, but will be more likely to break quickly.

Hey, I'm a singer and my vehicle sometimes surges, sew what do I need these for? ;->

sarace7340 wrote:Should have a good long life - it's a Singer with a warranty! The serger does a rolled AND an overlock hem!! Super excited for such a great deal - will help with wear and tear on my embroidery machine! That can now be a dedicated machine for embroidering only!!

You know an overlock hem is not a real thing, right? It's just a badly rolled hem, or a serged edge. You can call it an "overlock hem" but the reality is that when you see those, you're supposed to have your tailor finish hemming your pants.

You say one dollar less, but really it would be almost $15 more if you add in the cost of shipping...

poolgirlblue wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Singer-Scholastic-Machine-Patterns-5523/dp/B00669PBVW/ref=sr_1_1?s=miscellaneous&ie=UTF8&qid=1322892111&sr=1-1

Amazon has the machine by itself for $1 less. so for $1 you get a Serger with this deal.,

Don't like the fact that there aren't any reviews on the product though.

meadowlark wrote:Anyone who knows ...

...I hope that helps!

I agree and disagree.

Singer's quality sucks nowadays; the first time your machine fails to sew through a few layers of denim, and you need to get it repaired at the closest mom and pop repair shop because you totally messed up the stitch alignment and tension, you'll find that out yourself. I started with a "scholastic" model as a kid, too (protip: the term "scholastic" means nothing to Singer, except perhaps more disposable).


As for serging, it's nice if you want an easy way to make your items look professional, and if you have the money to spare... but if not, you can definitely look almost just as professional without. The victorians and edwardians didn't have sergers, and some of their garments are in museums today; I'm sure couture designers don't consider serging to be the epitome of professionalism, either. (But then again, you could argue that both instances prefer hand sewn perfection over anything else, anyway).

Things like french seams, hem tape and bias tape, linings, etc, can look pretty luxurious and professional. They just take a little more time and dedication.

For hemming you want a blind stitch machine. This one claims to do blind stitch but a real hemming machine would have an open arm where you put the pant leg for example and it would roll freely under the machine so you can quickly hem in a straight line. Maybe this one does but it's not apparant from the picture.

I agree on the old singers, that's what I bought for my shop when I owned a dry cleaning store. They are fast and reliable. Had a straight stitch machine and a blind stitch machine. Sergers are more for casual clothing and used more in womens clothing.

mbk21 wrote:Will buying this Woot expedite my application for residency in Santa Poco?

Only if you can sew like the wind, amigo.

Singer 2022 needles are available through amazon.com, shipped from someone else, (currently free shipping) for just under 10 dollars for 10 sized-14 needles for medium weight fabrics. It is noted that they recommend only using needles marked #2022, that 2020s could be used in an emergency, but skipping could occur if tension adjustments aren't made.

check it out yourself with the links to the user manuals under each product listing on Woot!

I've had an older version of the sewing machine for 20 years. It is great sewing machine and does everything you need, and nothing you don't need. Sure, there are digital machines that do all kinds of things, but they bring with them hassles you don't need.

Sergers are useful for professionally finished seams, and sewing seams that stretch. They are somewhat difficult to use andthread, so I wouldn't suggest them for a novice sewer. Lots of people buy sergers and never use them

Okay, ThunderThighs. I've been really good today and worked on my research paper like you said. Now WHEN do I get my Wootoff??

**whine, whine, wimper...

I am hoping for one with a unicorn, because this deal is magic! So happy I waited a few more days because this deal for both the serger and the sewing machine came along! YESSS!!!

karma2u wrote:And I only want the sewing machine. I'm assuming , with a moniker of "Desert", you aren't anywhere near Atlanta.

i am and my wife may only want the serger

The I Want One sign is bouncing, looks like these are almost sewed out!

ThunderThighs wrote:

Aww, thanks. *sniff!* I needed that.

is this still available???

moonrock wrote:I'd potentially buy one if it was JUST the sewing machine. I don't need a sewing machine *and* a serger. Why would you buy both?

Serger is for professional finishes and a few other techniques you can not get on a sewing machine. A serger does not replace a sewing machine, but a sewing machine can't achieve exactly the nice finish of a serger. They work great together if you want more professional looking clothing and projects both form the inside and outside.

Anyone else not see the status change to "shipped" ? Today is the 5th business day... I'm rather impatient for my machines with Christmas coming!

das_lion wrote:Anyone else not see the status change to "shipped" ? Today is the 5th business day... I'm rather impatient for my machines with Christmas coming!

Yeah mine hasnt changed either

Neither has mine.

Mine hasn't changed to shipped.