wateriestfire wrote:The thing that nobody has mentioned is that an All-In-One PC DOES cost more than an IMac, and why bother comparing an all in one with an ATX case anyway? The people that want an iMac are not going to be swayed by traditional desktops anyway, they are two different machines.

I could also say "Why bother buying a laptop when a desktop is better?". It is because a laptop is lightweight and portable. An all in one takes up less space and is much lighter.


Both Windows and OSX have issues in their own separate funny ways. I am a computer technician/programmer, and I have to say that I stopped liking PCs after Win 98 SE up until Windows 7 came out, Windows was utter crap in between. It was just awful in terms of support, in terms of software selection (what's good about millions of software choices if it's all crap?), Bugs, the fact that it was a resource hog, their stupid buggy activation service, lack of x64 support... oh I could go on...

Windows 7 is the first one the first one that fixes almost everything that was so bad about the last 10 years of Windows. However, it's gotten way too large with too many features and background stuff to even properly manage it anymore.

Macs also have painful ridiculous and stupid issues, with their proprietary everything, their firmware manipulation (to make it so you can't use new hardware on an older mac), their constant "format of the week" which they have a lonnng list of failed formats (more than Sony), their constant desire to screw good things up, no dvd on mac mini, Macbook air at $2,400 with a core 2 duo, Final Cut Pro X, $300 for a device that only plays music, no flash support on iphones or ipads, NO BLU-RAY SUPPORT!!!

lots of other stupid stuff...

Pick your poison people. I'm an Amiga fan myself...

Some great points.

Not sure if anyone has mentioned Apple forums.

I think this can be one of the main selling points of buying an Apple - especially a certified refurb for which you can then buy AppleCare (not from Apple).

Since everyone is running nearly the same OS a newbie will find dozen of users to answer questions on the Apple forum (or multiple forums) concerning just about anything that you could imagine - any time of the day - in many languages... that is a nice thing about the limited choices of Apple products/control.

I tell my family to buy Macs so when they come to me with questions on how to use it, I tell them I have a PC.

Why do you people rant and rave about this?
You will elf over the difference in price yet spend many times more on booze, cigarettes, cable, text messaging, cellphone plans, etc.
My PC and Mac Mini enjoy each others' company, why can't you?

buffaloed wrote:It's a combination of OS and hardware. Mac hardware is selected and configured specifically for OS X. Microsoft doesn't control the hardware selection and manufacturing process used by the likes of Dell, Gateway, HP. etc.. We'll never how good windows can be because Microsoft doesn't manufacture computers.

Nonsense,

Linux is also designed to run on different hardware. Linux does a fabulous job, Windows doesn't.

ComeAgain wrote:Nonsense,

Linux is also designed to run on different hardware. Linux does a fabulous job, Windows doesn't.

Gotta build myself a Linux box one of these days.

tick-tock...

jamesreidy wrote:The Mac/PC war is a joke. Macs are PCs. Like asking someone if they're going to buy a car or a BMW. Marketing win!

lol I am glad I am not the only one that gets annoyed by this. Apple has dominated the Marketing idea.

Should I get an iPod or an Mp3 player?

While we wait... here have a cat.

gak0090 wrote:This is not true. The hardware is all made in the same factories in China (primarily). Mac does not make any of their own hardware. The same potential hardware failures you would have in a Mac, you would have in a PC and vice-versa. Mac seems to last longer because people who can afford them tend to be a little more caring. Anyone can afford a pc, and for the price it's more of a disposable PC. You are going to treat your Mercedes nicer than you would your Chevy... but remember you are driving that Chevy everyday not worrying what potholes you hit, not washing it, not changing the oil, not maintaining it- but then you complain that American cars aren't built as well as your Mercedes.

We went to iMacs running Windows 7 in our lab, replacing 150 Dells, because the reliability & service is much better with Apple machines. Our macs generally get 2 more years of service than PC machines.

pearmask wrote:Like I said, this doesn't matter for most people, but as a linguist focusing on Hispanic languages, I can't have a PC until they make it easier for me to type just as fast in Spanish as I do in English without memorizing random numerical strings.

Come on, use LaTeX like any sensible person. If you are really a professional or academic linguist, you should know better.

nickmcmahon wrote:I agree. I am a technician, and I havent gotten a virus in a long, long, long time...you have to go to the right sites, and if you go to the wrong ones, go to the right wrong ones (lol)

On another note, here is a nice little analogy for the iPad

iPad= iPaid too much

OK, I've been running Windows stuff for 12 years now. In all those years, I've gotten exactly 1, yes ONE virus.

Currently I'm running bupkus for virus protection. Yep, NADA. ZIP! Nothing!

However, I know where to go. I DO go to the "bad" sitesd, but as has been mentioned earlier, I go to the "good" "bad" sites.

steve

ComeAgain wrote:and that was not the same OS with touched up icons and desktop images ??

Did it improve over those 7 years ??

Was the memory space cleared when you exited a program?

Did you not run out of resources every other day and have to reboot ?

Of course it improved over that time. Run out of system resources? Have you ever been a sys-admin?

We rarely had unscheduled reboots. We typically bounced our servers to correspond with our monthly patch roll outs or hardware upgrades.

What going on with shipping delay? I ordered on Dec 24. so I wonder how long it take been? I haven't seen any change status.

monix wrote:Or you know, you could get a PC with the same specs for a fraction of the price...

And it will be outdated and chawk full of viruses before the end of your first year of ownership - - leaving you with no choice but to replace it by purchasing another... At which point you could have bought a Mac that will last damn near forever.

fullmetal03 wrote:What going on with shipping delay? I ordered on Dec 24. so I wonder how long it take been? I haven't seen any change status.

Woot says usually 5 "business" days to ship. That puts us at either Saturday the 30th or January 2nd before they fall behind their own standards. In my world, Saturday is a business day. I'm chompin at the bit. I want this thing NOW!

Hope it will be shipped today!!!

Wait for it..... Wait for it

I pray today we getting it today or tomorrow either Saturday and maybe Jan 2 :0

tucknroll wrote:Woot says usually 5 "business" days to ship. That puts us at either Saturday the 30th or January 2nd before they fall behind their own standards. In my world, Saturday is a business day. I'm chompin at the bit. I want this thing NOW!

Five business days from the 24th is January 3. And note that it's usually five business days.

Mine was shipped. Yesterday, when only the label was entered, it said the scheduled arrival was 12/30 (per Fedex). Today it has actually shipped out of TX and it now says scheduled delivery 12/31. I hope this one is true!

zmistry wrote:Mine was shipped. Yesterday, when only the label was entered, it said the scheduled arrival was 12/30 (per Fedex). Today it has actually shipped out of TX and it now says scheduled delivery 12/31. I hope this one is true!

AW i dont see my status changed anything..it doesnt said Shipped... damn

I learned this on Woot. You can track your order # at FedX. Click tracking at top of page, select track by reference, add country and zip. Mine went out today, says it will get here on the 4th.

bedinarose wrote:I learned this on Woot. You can track your order # at FedX. Click tracking at top of page, select track by reference, add country and zip. Mine went out today, says it will get here on the 4th.

Just did this, scheduled arrival date is Jan 4th as well. Thank you!

bedinarose wrote:I learned this on Woot. You can track your order # at FedX. Click tracking at top of page, select track by reference, add country and zip. Mine went out today, says it will get here on the 4th.

Thanks for your help! Apparently mine shipped on the 29th, but I never received an email from Woot with the tracking info.

I did not receive a shipping email from Woot, but I got a phone call from FedEx this morning saying it would be delivered today w/ a signature required. I'm in Los Angeles.

One can request that the package be delivered to a local FedEx (Kinko's) office and be held for pick up. Unfortunately, I didn't receive the phone call from FedEx until this morning so I may have missed the cut-off.

finally i got tracking number from my order status! yay it will be arrive Jan 4! argh i wish it is here by today or jan 2 -_-

roblim wrote:I did not receive a shipping email from Woot, but I got a phone call from FedEx this morning saying it would be delivered today w/ a signature required. I'm in Los Angeles.

One can request that the package be delivered to a local FedEx (Kinko's) office and be held for pick up. Unfortunately, I didn't receive the phone call from FedEx until this morning so I may have missed the cut-off.

Ugh! Did you end up getting yours today??? I live in Riverside, and when I checked the tracking status, it said it would get delivered by the 30th (today). So we (my boyfriend and I) waited ALL day for this thing- and it never came. We called FedEx and complained and essentially they said it isn't their fault that their tracking information is incorrect, it is woot's fault because they chose the slowest form of transportation, and it will not be delivered until the 4th. Freaking b.s.!!! I haven't ever had a problem with receiving my order on time with woot, and how could it be woot's fault if FedEx is the one who inputs that information? We also asked if we could just pick it up at a local FedEx and they said no. The package supposedly departed from TX this morning at 6:42 am, and FedEx says that it is still in TX. Hmmmm. Very annoyed.

iluvcheesecake wrote:Windows Server is favored to run Microsoft Exchange?

Noooo!!!!

I'm sorry, you're totally right. MS Server is definitely the most reliable, high performing, secure server operating system with the least amount overhead.

I'll go give this hot tip to all the network admins so they can roll it out immediately.

United Technologies Corp (UTC), a very large corporation runs Windows servers exclusively and it NEVER GOES DOWN! I have never seen such a stable network anywhere. I work for one of the major divisions and am proud to say that their Windows network operates flawlessly.

AND..... it came in today. Unboxing now. Signature required. Scored some lagniappe in the box also. loUiSiAna. lagniappe = http://bit.ly/sTY8g4

[quote postid="4780572" user="kgrimball"]...Scored some lagniappe in the box also.

Me too. Mini-speakers, cleaner and earbuds. What did you get?

cchausis wrote:[quote postid="4780572" user="kgrimball"]...Scored some lagniappe in the box also.

Me too. Mini-speakers, cleaner and earbuds. What did you get?

Same thing, as far as the "free stuff"... Mine does not recognize the built-in 802.11 wireless (only list ethernet) in network. and the video is SLOW. You can watch it PAINT the screen. I hope this is not the "lemon". Woot?

kgrimball wrote:Same thing, as far as the "free stuff"... Mine does not recognize the built-in 802.11 wireless (only list ethernet) in network. and the video is SLOW. You can watch it PAINT the screen. I hope this is not the "lemon". Woot?

Whoda thunk it? Like a PC, all I had to do was REBOOT!

has anyone received their IMAC PCs yet? Fedex promised by Dec 29 and then switched it to Jan 4th. What a joke.

Ulli wrote:has anyone received their IMAC PCs yet? Fedex promised by Dec 29 and then switched it to Jan 4th. What a joke.

Check the three previous post above this one. A couple of us have. No joke. I am replying to your message on the iMac. WOW, W00T! works on a mac?

haha....mine is not coming till the 4th - but thank you for your response, it made me laugh and assured that it might truly be on its way
! Thank you!!!!

As a noobie to Mac, I'm glad mine won't arrive until Wednesday. This gave me time to order and receive, from amazon: new desk (I'm keeping the old Dell),fresh battery for the old stand-by UPS, replacement for the cable for same which the Xmas puppy chewed, full-sized (with number pad) Mac keyboard, wrist pad and keyboard cover for same, new mouse pad with wrist support, powered USB hub for more slots, and two Mac books to read during today's Bowl games. Desk is assembled, goodies are on it waiting for the 'puter, and it's time to turn on the TV and do my homework. By delivery day Wednesday I should be ready!

I think it completely sucks that from order to delivery it is taking 10 days. FedEx called on 12/29 and claimed they will deliver on 12/30 only to not do it. Then the date was updated to 1/4. Hope the FedEx computers all crash AFTER the delivery.

Been saving for a new one so this was PERFECT timing! Got it, love it, and woot! was great about shipping it quickly. Not only that but had the pleasant surprise of finding that they included speakers, earbuds, and a computer cleaning kit in the box too! How super thoughtful of you woot! You rock

sudhir98 wrote:I think it completely sucks that from order to delivery it is taking 10 days. FedEx called on 12/29 and claimed they will deliver on 12/30 only to not do it. Then the date was updated to 1/4. Hope the FedEx computers all crash AFTER the delivery.

Be careful....you might get THAT Fed Ex guy!

TheFaz wrote:Be careful....you might get THAT Fed Ex guy!

HEHE hopefully i will get him on the camera too.