This unit, like its upper-class Edenpure cousin, looks to be merely an electrical resistance heater... nothing more. Being that resistance heating is, for all intents and purposes, 100% efficient already, this device cannot possibly be "more efficient" than any other electrical resistance heater, including the crappy $20 ones you can find at any big box store.

For your consideration:

http://mapawatt.com/2010/11/26/edenpure-heater-exaggerated-claims

http://keithtax.hubpages.com/hub/EdenPURE-Scam-Revealed

still giddy over my new bag of carrots that are coming in the mail! Woot!!

ThatPoshGirl wrote:PS. This is the $25 model I got from Amazon. There are a lot of similar models, some with fans and some without. I used it quite a lot throughout December and my electric bill only went up about $10.

We've been using that exact same one for the past year or so. We use it in a den that's 625 square feet with 14 foot vaulted ceiling, 3 exterior walls, and minimal insulation: just a nightmare to (try to) heat. It's very nice to sit in front of the thing, even on Low, and even when the air temperature in the room is 62. And it doesn't make a sound.

I dont have this model but do have one EdenPure and one heat smart, both have the infrared quartz lights. Exhaust grill reads 120* which is not considered hot, your car get up to 140* when parked in the sun in the summer. Therefore I am not worried if I park it next to curtains in my bedroom. 120* is not hot enough to cause contact burns as the old coil heaters do and less if a fire hazard risk. I used to use the oil filled elect radiator heaters for this same propose, but would have to leave a ceiling fan on to keep the air circulated. This has its own fan to circulate the air which may be part of its claim to efficiency. The infrared light has claim to killing certain airborne bacteria. I do like the led readout heaters because you soon learn your comfort number. Dont expect one of theses to heat a large spacious glamor home, if your in one of these you will be disappointed with only one running. my comfort number is 72. I will get one as a spare

These things are amazing. When it's on it heats so thoroughly that the furnace no longer cuts on and so it saves a ton on electricity.
We have ours on carpet and haven't had a problem with it not thinking it's level. It also really is touchable while running. You wouldn't want to LEAVE your hand on it where the heat is coming out but it won't instantly burn you.

I bought one of these guys when I moved into a room in the garage on cement floors. It really works! (I don't know about electric bill because I don't pay it) I paid $89 for it at a local store, and it was worth it. I like the fact that the outside stays cool, so the paws of my 2 cats are safe in case they get to curious. Warms quickly and efficiently. After about a month, it now makes a quiet ratteling noise which is obnoxious, but if you place something on top it, it goes away. perhaps the casing is loose?

Still, good deal. I love mine Seems to be animal/child friendly...as friendly as a heater can be at least...

carpediemkiddo wrote:Deal a day until the next woot-off. Now you have to patiently wait every night. On the brighter side, daily woots are typically more "useful" than some of the woot-off items. Woot-offs are mini-parties essentially, you arrived at the climax of the fun

I need a TV and a computer... was sent here. I still have hope now, thanks!

susiewoots wrote:I have one, but not the wood wrap that this one has. It has worked faithfully for the past 3 months. The heat is not drying. It actually removes the chill from your bones. If you have arthritis, you know how hard it is to warm up.

My unit just stopped working so I have to put in a call to lifesmart. Its under full warrenty so it should be replaced.

If I actually had the money, I would go ahead and order this one to keep in my room.

I have one sitting in my garage that wasn't under warranty. I have a $30 heater in the room now that is twice as old working just fine. I also have a $60 oil filled radiator that heats better and quieter than this one ever did.

therealjrn wrote:We're back to the normal one-sale-a-day-or-until-it is-sold-out now...the woot-offs are a blast it is true. Have you seen this help page? http://www.woot.com/WhatIsWoot.aspx

Haven't looked. I'm headed over now. Thank you... how often do we have woot offs?

I have a small apartment that is one of those kind of half-underground deals with concrete floors. It has baseboard heaters. Last month my electric bill shot up about 33% since it finally got cold around here.

So since my apartment is fairly small, and I think I could use this to heat the whole thing, would it save money over the two baseboard heaters I normally run? Would I be better of just getting a small fan to circulate air from the baseboard heaters?

By the way I know nothing about these heaters. They just look like all the rest I've seen... brown boxy looking deals.

efooter wrote:Anyone who needs a space heater doesn't have a powerful enough computer.

Aaaaahhhhahahahah....Oh My Gookie!, almost spit out my cheerios on that one. It's the only way I keep warm in my office!

StarBob wrote:
So since my apartment is fairly small, and I think I could use this to heat the whole thing, would it save money over the two baseboard heaters I normally run?

No, electricity is 100% efficient when it comes to heating. Doesn't matter if it comes from baseboard heaters, cheap heaters or expensive heaters.

Would I be better of just getting a small fan to circulate air from the baseboard heaters?

Much better use of your money.

gossamerica wrote:I think my grandpa had one of these radios in his basement when I was a kid. What's next, woot, a zoetrope? ;-)

I bet your grandpa thought that was a "Hot" thing to do back in his day!

qwertyasd wrote:It looks like a Steampunk R2D2!

best comment ever.

This heater absolutely will not heat a 1,500 sq. ft. room. That's a ridiculous claim.

150 sq ft? Maybe.

back2cali wrote:Haven't looked. I'm headed over now. Thank you... how often do we have woot offs?

Your welcome, and welcome to woot I'm not a real old-timer, but I'll hazard they happen quarterly or so...

This is "ETL/CETL Listed" yet it doesn't have a UL listing? It's probably foreign-made and never submitted for UL approval. The identical unit likely exists under many different brand names. Hmmmmm...

Here is a good explanation of the UL/ETL/CETL/CSA/CE certifications. One practical difference is that UL apparently has 800+ safety and performance criteria while the ETL has less than 200. Note, however, that this may simply mean that the UL tests more types of products. It does not necessarily mean that the UL ran more relevant tests on this heater than the ETL.

notaguru wrote:It's a 1500W heater, exactly the same as a $12 heater from Walmart.

Are the LifeSmart watts somehow warmer? More comfortable? Cheaper? Greener?

Sometimes a watt is just a watt, and 1500 of them have precisely the same heating effect whether the source costs $109 or $12.

finally, someone who understands the emperor has no clothes;-)

therealjrn wrote:Your welcome, and welcome to woot I'm not a real old-timer, but I'll hazard they happen quarterly or so...

Once a month, actually. It's just a question of when in the month it'll occur.

efficiency is lost when electricity is turned into light.. or sound... just sayin'

I could say these are great & I could say over priced.
They are great for not having to worry about papers nearby them.

better for small rooms such as 8x8 or smaller.
But everyone's experiences are different.
I have the edenpure brand thanks to my grandfather which fell for the bogus claim thinking they used less energy.
1500 watts is 1500watts I don't care who you are.

But Yes We use these and are 40% happy with them. Edenpure had to replace them twice.

gbl wrote:
http://mapawatt.com/2010/11/26/edenpure-heater-exaggerated-claims

http://keithtax.hubpages.com/hub/EdenPURE-Scam-Revealed

I totally agree with those claims.
They are no better then a 20dollar heater.
Which is why i suggest smaller rooms. for this style of heater. I said a 10x12 but honestly it does better for a bathroom LOL

I only like the fact I do not have to keep papers etc away from it. But they won't last as long as a old style coil heater.
Wish we would not have given our coil heaters away. which when they were given away they were about 15-25yrs old & I bet they still work fine even if they are rusty.

bradhanson wrote:Pretty cool looking heater, but I think I'll stick to my $20 Walmart special.

What heater at walmart are you speaking of??

Johnnya475 wrote:Do the Amish build these heaters as well? Despite being anti-technology, they have a way with a butter churn and a soldering iron.

The Amish don't build heaters. They build wood cabinets for them.

obel1sk wrote:efficiency is lost when electricity is turned into light.. or sound... just sayin'

... or heat. So what's your point?

nimpek wrote:last time these were on woot they sold out by noon. The previous heater only heated 1000 sqft.

Any heater can heat a 1000, 10000, or even 1000000 square foot space. It is literally a matter of degrees. All 1500 watt heaters generate the same heat. The only difference is how it delivers it.

therealjrn wrote:Your welcome, and welcome to woot I'm not a real old-timer, but I'll hazard they happen quarterly or so...

Try once a month. Woot-Offs are a monthly event.

moonbunnychan wrote:These things are amazing. When it's on it heats so thoroughly that the furnace no longer cuts on and so it saves a ton on electricity.
We have ours on carpet and haven't had a problem with it not thinking it's level. It also really is touchable while running. You wouldn't want to LEAVE your hand on it where the heat is coming out but it won't instantly burn you.

Electric heating is the most expensive type. These heaters only save money if you want to heat a small space and let the rest of the house get colder.

This is one of those weird fads. Do some research on the whole thing before you buy.

"Infrared Quartz Heater is designed to heat your home without reducing humidity..."

So it defies the laws of physics as well?

Aside from the remote control function, how does this Quartz heater differ from the Sunbeam one that was offered a few weeks ago (that I purchased)?

This type of heater does in fact work. I have two of a different brand. However this model can't be serviced by the owner, has to be returned to the factory, save the shipping box.

Can view a typical LifeSmart manual at https://www.northerntool.com/downloads/manuals/15330.pdf.

Requires a three (3) prong grounded 110 volt outlet.

Sorry, 1500 watts is 5122 Btu. My Lakewood is 1500 watts, it still only puts off a maximum of 5122 btu. 1500 watts is 5122 btu no matter what rating you want to give it. There is only so much power and btu you can pull from a watt. No matter if it is day or night. So you're going to pay 100 for a heater that tractor supply can sell you for as little as 24.99. BTW the true specs on any 1500 watt heater are 150 sqft,,,, And unless you are on a space heater plan with the electric company, you WON'T save a dime with this heater off of woot.

http://www.tractorsupply.com/redstone-trade-multi-purpose-radiant-electric-heater-1129035

whitcwa wrote:Electric heating is the most expensive type. These heaters only save money if you want to heat a small space and let the rest of the house get colder.

I disagree. My HIGHEST winter electric bill in my ALL electric house is.........
$350. That is 5 people as well. I keep my house at 79.5 degrees all winter long too. I also have a well and it is electric. So I can control my bill..... for now.

Not the same model.

As far as listings go, the product should go through the exact same tests regardless of which company does the testing. To get a safety listing, first the type of the product is identified, then the appropriated safety standard is applied. Many of the standards are published by UL. So the product might have an UL, ETL or MET listing but it was tested to the same UL standard.

UL is the standard most people recognize, so many consumer product manufacturers go with them.

As far as foreign made items, well most of the crap we buy is foreign made. And UL, Intertek (ETL) or any other lab will be happy to test it. Both UL and Intertek have labs in China.

bugzappers2112 wrote:I disagree. My HIGHEST winter electric bill in my ALL electric house is.........
$350. That is 5 people as well. I keep my house at 79.5 degrees all winter long too. I also have a well and it is electric. So I can control my bill..... for now.

If you have an all electric house then you cant run gas or oil for comparison....

My electric bill in the winter runs $80. My gas bill runs about $100. Tried running 1 electric heater for a month and that months electric bill was $370.

gwendyw wrote:These heat the physical objects in the room, not the air. If you want a stream of hot air blowing at you, this is not the droid you are looking for.

Exactly. For the most efficient and safest heat you need an oil-filled radiant heater.

DeLonghi used to make great oil-filled radiant heaters that heated efficiently, effectively, and never got hot enough to burn. I had 2 which I used to heat an uninsulated trailer while I was building my house through 3 Missouri winters (snow 2' deep, it got so cold at one point the propane froze - Ok, the residual moisture in the propane tanks froze, but that's still pretty cold!). Most of the time I only needed to turn one on.

The newer DeLonghi I bought last year wasn't up to the quality of those models 15 years ago, but particular brand notwithstanding, a good oil-filled radiant heater is the way to go, and at a fraction of the cost of this thing.

Can it roast marshmallows?

ZenSojourner wrote:Exactly. For the most efficient and safest heat you need an oil-filled radiant heater.

Unless you're redefining "efficient" you haven't been paying attention to this thread.

One distinction of an oil-filled heater is that the heat capacity of the oil meakes it heat more gently, and continue to transfer heat to the room after it switches off. The tradeoff is on the other side where it takes energy to heat the oil when an infrared heater is heating the room.

A watt is a watt.

I'm sure glad that Woot doesn't have a "home.woot" site, otherwise, this wouldn't be half as cool as it is...