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I've never posted on Woot before, but this made me just laugh my ass off!! LMFAO.

terri19 wrote:The one on amazon has 6 elements, this one only has 3. I don't know how much of a difference that makes

Three.

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bought one like this, but way more expensive. Loved how it heated, until I got the electric bill. The gentleman at the Tractor Supply Store said he used 4 heaters to heat his entire house,so we bought 2 thinking we'd save money on oil heat. The electric bill tripled! From $100.00 to $300.00. Yikes!Was using the furnace as well. Now we pay attention to how we are running the heater, and the electric bill is still tripled!

The eBay site says it warms up to 700 sq. ft.

9* here this AM.. what a day to sell a heater egh??

My electric bill WAS around $80 per month. It has been warm this year in Michigan so . . . . last month, with this thing running a lot, even set to 64 degrees, my electric bill was $175. Haven't gotten the gas bill yet, if it is lower than $150 I may have saved money . . . Not very impressed with the "pennies a day" statement. And it keeps warm what it is pointed at, not the whole area without staying on for hours.

With natrual gas rates so low (I got it for like .57 per therm in GA), It's cheaper and more comfortable for me to use the furnace than to fire up 1500 watts.

dessndave wrote:I could say these are great & I could say over priced.
They are great for not having to worry about papers nearby them.

better for small rooms such as 8x8 or smaller.
But everyone's experiences are different.
I have the edenpure brand thanks to my grandfather which fell for the bogus claim thinking they used less energy.
1500 watts is 1500watts I don't care who you are.

But Yes We use these and are 40% happy with them. Edenpure had to replace them twice.

A hair dryer on high will use 1500 watts. So will a curling iron. Neither will heat a room. So yes, 1500 watts is 1500 watts, but HOW it uses that energy and converts it to heat is the difference.

I have 2 and they work great for small places - but I monitor my power use daily (EMC website) and they really use electricity!

We have an all-electric house with electric baseboards. Bought a couple of Sun-Twin heaters over 5 years ago. One heater took care of about 1/2 of the 1st floor and the other took care of a large room in the basement. Now one has died and I've been looking to replace it with another infrared heater. I was too late last time they came up on Woot. I'm in for 2.

efooter wrote:Anyone who needs a space heater doesn't have a powerful enough computer.

Very, very quality post.

Great product, I have one at home!

The machine will use 1500 watts as it is running. If you run it for an hour and you pay $0.08 per kWh, then you will pay about $0.12 per hour to run it. If you put it in a really cold spot and run the heater for 20 hours per day then you will pay $2.40 a day to run it. SO, the claims they make on efficiency and costs to run need to be considered carefully. I sell heaters like this at a retail store. 95% of the people who buy them are super happy about the way they work.

Infrared heaters are great for when you're in one place and not moving. As others have said, it heats objects, not air. I use one in my garage when I'm working on or underneath my car in the winter. For the most part I'm standing in one place not moving much and it will keep me toasty.

When I'm inside during the winter, I prefer a traditional space heater with a fan (or oil radiator) to heat the air and actually warm the room, not just the chair I'm sitting on.

Infrared is good for 1 or 2 people sitting very close together, a space heater is good for a whole area.

beachhead wrote:I'm sure glad that Woot doesn't have a "home.woot" site, otherwise, this wouldn't be half as cool as it is...

'Half as cool' ... when there is a heater on sale? I see what you did there.

I really want one, just because of the style, but i already have a Lasko tower with smilar stats, so its hard to justify the cost.

Advertising Fail:

How well will this work in a wood shop?

johnvassel wrote:A hair dryer on high will use 1500 watts. So will a curling iron. Neither will heat a room. So yes, 1500 watts is 1500 watts, but HOW it uses that energy and converts it to heat is the difference.

Even a heavy-duty curling iron is closer to 85 Watts, which is why they won't heat up a room. A 1500 Watt hair dryer absolutely *will* warm a small room if you leave it running long enough, and that's even with some of the power being used to spin the fan, not just to heat the elements.

The conversion of electricity into heat is nearly 100% efficient, which is what allows you to compare Watts or BTU between different devices, even if they don't use the exact same mechanism.

Had this heater, heated the first couple of days and then went. NOT GOOD. Sent it back.
It cost about 15.00 a day to run NOT one dollar. A rip off.

natural gas is the best way to go. I'd run from anything eletric or oil. these heaters are no more efficient than any other electric heater.

W9GFO wrote:I'm not the first to point this out but I want to remind you all that as far as efficiency goes, ALL 1500 watt electric heaters have the exact same efficiency - 100%.

When things are inefficient, energy is wasted in the form of heat. If a 1500 watt heater is not efficient at turning electricity into heat, just where is that energy going? It's a rhetorical question.

Buy it because you like the way it looks, or you like that it is quiet and has a fan, but don't buy it thinking that it is more efficient than any other electric heater.

Also, you can improve the efficiency by sitting in front of it! Output doesn't change, but you will begin to develop an attractive char on your backside. Also, leave a cast iron pan in front of it and you will eventually be able to fry an egg!

Hokiewoot! wrote:This type of heater does in fact work. I have two of a different brand. However this model can't be serviced by the owner, has to be returned to the factory, save the shipping box.

Can view a typical LifeSmart manual at https://www.northerntool.com/downloads/manuals/15330.pdf.

Requires a three (3) prong grounded 110 volt outlet.

Howdy from a fellow hokie-wooter......

dessndave wrote:1500 watts is 1500watts I don't care who you are.

It's true that this heater uses the same wattage as most other electric heaters, the difference is- THIS heater is much more efficient and heats a greater area for the same electricity use. I have a similar type heater, not this brand (and I paid much MORE than woot has this for,) and it uses infrared to heat forced hot air that is produced. Forced hot air heats a bigger area than a radiant electric or oil-filled radiator type heater, both of which I have tried in the past. THIS heater heats my whole downstairs, and since I placed it in the dining room where my thermostat is, it keeps my furnace from coming on and wasting heat heating the upstairs when no one is up there. My heater is rated for 1500 square feet, which is HUGE for a small heater.

Pros: I saved a bundle so far in heating costs. It's small, quiet, and doesn't get hot to the touch. Heats a large area. Nice looking, too!

Cons: Takes a little while to get the temperature up. I turn it on first thing in the AM, and it warms up the room a couple of degrees per hour. That's it, can't find anything bad about it...

If you're considering it, BUY ONE! You can't beat this price. Similar ones on Amazon around this price range don't have the digital control. BUY IT!

I pay about 14 cents per kilowatt hour (total electric bill divided by how many KWH used). That means this costs 21 cents an hour to run (14cents x 1500w).
You have two so thats 42 cents an hour.
200 dollar difference in your bill means that you are running it 16 days out of 30 or all night every night. You are using these as your primary heat and not secondary supplemental.

dirtworship wrote:bought one like this, but way more expensive. Loved how it heated, until I got the electric bill. The gentleman at the Tractor Supply Store said he used 4 heaters to heat his entire house,so we bought 2 thinking we'd save money on oil heat. The electric bill tripled! From $100.00 to $300.00. Yikes!Was using the furnace as well. Now we pay attention to how we are running the heater, and the electric bill is still tripled!

This is not your grandfather's fire hazard.

Hilarious, efooter!

Resistive heat is about the only thing in life that is 100% efficient. Not sure what the efficiency is of infrared quartz elements.

If you wanna stay warm- you gotta pay...

"1500 watts per channel babycakes."

"Electrically-heated infrared heaters radiate up to 86% of their input as radiant energy."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared_heater#Efficiency

What I think you are all forgetting is that Montel endorses this product... so it must be good! *sarcasm*

Seriously what happened to that guy? He used to be my favorite talk show host. And Sylvia Brown, the best!

yep, they heat. But so does any other 1500W heater. There's nothing magical about these types of heaters.

Yep. Wait till you get your electric bill. We went from about $79/month to $189 after running it for a month. It heats well, but I can only afford to run it when I absolutely have to.

I've read some more of these comments. Electricity confuses people! 1500 watts IS the same from one heater to the next. There is a BIG difference in output and efficiency though! A radiant electric heater (with the coils that glow red) gets super hot close to it, but doesn't help heat that big of an area. Oil-filled radiator types also gets too hot to touch, but radiates heat more efficiently and for longer than a radiant one. Plus while the oil-filled part is hot, the electricity can turn off for a while. Then you have combos that use ceramics to try to retain heat. The one for sale uses infrared to heat air that is moved through it, and forces the air out, similar to a gas or oil forced hot air system. Because the air is not super-heated, it doesn't get too hot to touch, and heats up slower, but the forced hot air heats a larger room area. (In my case, my whole kitchen/dining/living room area.) So compared to other 1500 watt heaters, the output in BTUs is greater for the same electrical use.

AND for those who argue about the stated cost to run one: a kilowatt/hour is about 4 1/2 cents. 1500 watts is 1.5 kilowatts , times 24 equals 36 kilo watts per day, times 4.5 cents = $1.62 if you left it on 24 hours per day. That's really simplified, but I think I'm pretty close on the math. I KNOW I've saved close to $100 compared to my heating costs last year over the same time period!

I hope it gets here before spring!

johnvassel wrote:A hair dryer on high will use 1500 watts. So will a curling iron. Neither will heat a room. So yes, 1500 watts is 1500 watts, but HOW it uses that energy and converts it to heat is the difference.

Well said! I wish I'd read your comment before I spent 20 minutes typing a whole page that said about the same thing!

I just wanted to throw in my experience with electric vs. gas heat. My home has a central gas heater, but I was freezing my tush off trying to keep the bill down. I thought I'd give space heaters a try and it was amazing how well I could heat my home for such a low price compared to gas! I now can keep my whole home warm, or only where I want, such as my bedroom and bathroom at night. I also use programmable thermostat timers to have my home warm when I get home from work.

So, in terms of cost, while I have always heard that gas is cheaper, that is not the case everywhere.

halnwheels wrote:Three.

I LOL'd!

The writeup claims that it runs on $1 of electricity per day. Ok.. so if that figure is accurate, my electric bill goes up $30 per month. Will my gas bill go down that much? I don't think so because the rest of the house still has to be heated. Not a good idea (to me).