I have a Lenovo (different model) that I absolutely love with two notable exceptions.

First: I hate the position of the "Fn" Key on the bottom right of the keyboard. That is where the "Ctrl" key should be. I see from the photo that this flaw is perpetuated in the one being sold here on Woot. After using my Lenovo W520 for about six months, I STILL hit the FN button when I mean to hit the CTRL button (mostly because I use an external keyboard when I'm at my desk).

Second: (This one is totally a preference issue) My Lenovo replaced a Dell computer that had a back-lit keyboard. The Lenovo has an LED light by the camera that shines down on the keyboard, but it doesn't work as well in low-light situations, so at home I often miss the back-lit keyboard.

Still, when I was looking to replace my personal laptop a few months back, I heavily considered a Lenovo because I love my work machine. Were I still in the market for a personal computer (for use at home by the kids/etc.) I would have likely bought this Woot.

recursional wrote:4gb I woud have bought by now. Thinking about it instead.

But, how tough to upgrade?

Thinkpads are great, but there's absolutely no reason to spend that much money on a Turion processor. AMD's own current chips are still much better than those.

theglock wrote:I agree, I would stay away from AMD in general.

Why? You like to pay more for the same performance?

What is it with so many laptops having a paltry 768 pixels of vertical screen resolution? This would drive me nuts after being used to 1200 vertical pixels all day at work.

The screen resolution is fine for a laptop. Some people don't like looking at microscopic text. As for it being "outdated" or other complaints about the specs, I am still using an 8 year old Toshiba Tecra M1 and it runs everything I need just fine. The only reason I am thinking of getting a new one is that most web sites are going to wide screen layouts and I'm tired of scrolling left and right. And zooming out is not an option as it looks terrible. If this would have come with XP as an option, I would be all over it.

Come on Woot! I'm losing interest in you. More than disappointed in your recent deals.

Kizzbot wrote:This may be the worst Woot! deal ever. Look at the specs on this thing, absolutely terrible. Will people actually buy this rustic POS?

Where did the specs tab onthe front page go? I found one the first day of the new design, but I can't find it. It's hard to find anything now

What about streaming video - how well would it handle Netflix/ HBO Go/ Mlb.tv, etc? Would it be sufficient to run a 47" 1080p LED?

It's NOT a real ThinkPad.

Shame on Lenovo for putting a ThinkPad sticker on this laptop. While it's better than the usual crap you'll find in the retail stores, it's NOT a ThinkPad. No roll-cage, no magnesium case. Different (cheaper) keyboard from the ThinkPad series. Slow, underpowered (even when it was introduced).

For those who are used to the T-series, they'll be sorely disappointed here. The most noticeable are the keyboard and plastic frame/housing. Again, not bad compared to mass-market, but not the legendary T-series quality.

#trooth

engineererrant wrote:Warning: if you abuse the Ctrl key like I do, you will be driven to frustration by Lenovo's decision to offset the standard Ctrl key location to make room for their Fn key in the lower-left. I love Lenovo's laptops' reliability, I just can't stand their default keyboard layout.

halnwheels wrote:Ditto that for the X201 laptop (not tablet). I embaressingly had an extremely heavy object strike my X201 oblitterating the screen. I procurred a relacement screen for less than $100 out of Canada and there was no damage to the frame even though the object stuck across the entrire top of the laptop. I replaced the screen and thiis is the computer I am typing on now. You could never tell.

If someone asks, I will admit to what the object was ;)

OK, I'll byte: Hitachi Magic Wand? 5-lb free weight?

bmrbill wrote:Here's a Notebook review.

Appears to have a different processor.

bmrbill wrote:Here's a Notebook review.

I appreciate the couple reviews that have popped up here, but in both of those, they reviewed the laptop with Core i3 processors, not the AMD one. That kind of invalidates the review to me to a degree.

Costco has a better deal IMHO:

Lenovo G570 Laptop
Core i3-2350M 2.3GHz
.3M Webcam & Veriface® Facial Recognition

radi0j0hn wrote:Woot has gotten snarky and does not make it immediately available. You have to go to details...or I'm going blind.

The most recent trend (a tweak I think from the start of beta) is that if it's a refurb, it's listed next to the price on the initial/overview/deal page (for example, see today's sellout offering). If it's new, there's no mention.

So it seems you don't have to dive down a level. Regardless, refurb or new, it's listed on the subsequent "I want one" page before you can buy anything, which is the same page as if you click on the item.

richardhod wrote:Where did the specs tab onthe front page go? I found one the first day of the new design, but I can't find it. It's hard to find anything now

I don't recall it ever being on the initial/front page. Click on the item or buy it now button, and it'll go to a followup page where there is a specs tab.

hee hee! Close! An old sash window with none of the counter-weights still attached. It had a wedge keeping the window open, and then... WHAM! I'm not kidding, it slammed the S*H***T out of it!! I figured it was trash. Nope. I could sell it to you now and you'd never know.

The X201 is in the same family of the T60. I had three T60's (I work in IT.) The difference is it's got the I series Intel processors instead of the older dual-core. It also has a wider screen and keyboard. So the ENTER key is full size. It also has a touch pad IN ADDITION to the track-point. It also retains the excellent ThinkVantage blue button access to the recovery partition. This is why you see so much posted about it. We used to call the think pads, think tanks. Because they were built like tanks.

sparklewoman wrote:OK, I'll byte: Hitachi Magic Wand? 5-lb free weight?

That is the most creative way to mess up a computer I've heard in awhile... Just want to mention to those reading that this Edge being sold here will not deal well with such punishment

halnwheels wrote:hee hee! Close! An old sash window with none of the counter-weights still attached. It had a wedge keeping the window open, and then... WHAM! I'm not kidding, it slammed the S*H***T out of it!! I figured it was trash. Nope. I could sell it to you now and you'd never know.

The X201 is in the same family of the T60. I had three T60's (I work in IT.) The difference is it's got the I series Intel processors instead of the older dual-core. It also has a wider screen and keyboard. So the ENTER key is full size. It also has a touch pad IN ADDITION to the track-point. It also retains the excellent ThinkVantage blue button access to the recovery partition. This is why you see so much posted about it. We used to call the think pads, think tanks. Because they were built like tanks.

I've been shopping around for a laptop for awhile now, and I have to say that this isn't an amazing deal. If you really need a cheap laptop for accomplishing very basic tasks and general web surfing, you can't really go wrong here, but you'll be cutting a lot of corners when it comes to the specs.

Yes, the RAM isn't a big deal since it can be easily upgraded, but the processor and HDD are troublesomely outdated. If this was around $250, I don't think I could complain about the deal much, but at $330 you're really not getting an amazing deal. Just shopping around Lenovo's site you can find far better systems for not a great deal more than this. This simply isn't worth the money for the build; plus as people have said, this is the cheapy of the Thinkpad line.

We've got a ton of T400 lenovo's at work... Not a fan of Lenovo. Remember these are NOT IBM's. Chinese companies copy, not innovate.

theglock wrote:I agree, I would stay away from AMD in general.

Current AMD APUs (Advanced Processing Units) are actually great - their integrated graphics are miles ahead of Intel's, their multi-threaded performance is also very good, though single-threaded performance is a bit weaker.

Generally, any halfway decent CPU/APU from the last four years will suffice for the vast majority of computer use. Sure, i7 quads smoke Trinity APUs in benchmarks and CPU-intensive applications, but most people will never do a single task on their computer that will show a quantifiable difference between the two.

Just picked up a couple of toshiba satelites with better specs than this for $329.00

rlmaynard wrote:Anyone know what the WINSAT scores are on this tool ?

My X120e's are:

AerodexdotCom wrote:Anybody know what the Actual Model Number is, or did I miss that in the clutter of the new TooBusyWootLook?

Type: 0302

Nice deal, but I won't be buying a Chinese laptop.

BigSchu wrote:Nice deal, but I won't be buying a Chinese laptop.

Nationalistic purchasing preferences?

Lenovo makes great laptops. While the expansion of their offerings to include the Thinkpad Edge, Ideapad, and (shudder) Essential laptops has introduced lower-quality machines into the brand name, their Thinkpads are as good as or better than the original IBM Thinkpads, and the Thinkpad Edge series that this machine belongs to is as well-built as any other company's mid-range business lines.

As others have said, you can get a better-performing laptop for this price elsewhere, but you won't get anything this well-built at this price unless it's very used and even more outdated hardware-wise than this one. This deal is good for those who want a reliable machine, not so hot for anyone wanting better-than-basic performance.