stevenarchos


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Hi everyone. I'm Steven from Archos and I'll be helping craigarchos answer questions.

As far as the 3G stick working in the US goes, I have tested it with an AT&T sim card. The tablet was able to identify both AT&T as well as TMobile networks, but I only had an ATT sim to test it with. The connection was typical 3G, around 1Mbps down and a little less than 1Mbps up.

As an added bonus you can use the 3G stick in a laptop from the same data plan.

rantng


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craigarchos wrote:
With all that said, I think you would be happy with either.



Gotta give a +1 just for that comment. You don't often see a company acknowledging the competition. I currently have a Toshiba Thrive, but I've been looking to replace it with something a little less bulky. I may consider this tablet.

whatsamattaU


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craigarchos wrote:It really depends in what you want out of your tablet.

This tablet excels at media files. It plays almost anything out of the box without needing to convert files.

It plays h.246 files back in 1080p - something the Samsung can't do.

It plays most music codecs without any problem.

The devices are similar in spec and are both google certified - both have full access to Google Play.

The G9 has a kickstand...

This is the ultimate entertainment device - movies and music with pure Android 4.0.

With all that said, I think you would be happy with either.



One quick question: do I have the info pages/links to the right model on the first page entry? Thanks, gotta go.

ejeon


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craigarchos wrote:It really depends in what you want out of your tablet.

This tablet excels at media files. It plays almost anything out of the box without needing to convert files.

It plays h.246 files back in 1080p - something the Samsung can't do.

It plays most music codecs without any problem.

The devices are similar in spec and are both google certified - both have full access to Google Play.

The G9 has a kickstand...

This is the ultimate entertainment device - movies and music with pure Android 4.0.

With all that said, I think you would be happy with either.



Ah, Craig... if only you guys had been a little more on the ball getting these g9 tablets out. I wanted an 80G9 250gb in the worst way last fall, but went with the 7" Galaxy Tab because you kept pushing back the release date. I'm very happy with the GTab, but really wishing I could somehow upgrade it to 3G.

Sadly, I won't be buying today because woot doesn't ship to SE Asia, which is where I'm now living.

For anyone considering this tablet: don't brush off the kickstand feature as something insignificant. Archos doesn't skimp on the construction... they're really sturdy and it obviates spending an extra $30-50 bucks for a bulky folding stand/case thingy.

Happy wooting!

tintar


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well, I just tried to buy the 269.99 1gb version from the archosfans link to archos store, and it failed no matter what I tried. maybe that deal is no good anymore?

therealjrn


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tintar wrote:well, I just tried to buy the 269.99 1gb version from the archosfans link to archos store, and it failed no matter what I tried. maybe that deal is no good anymore?



Going directly to the store https://store.archos.com/ when I clicked on the "add to cart" I got a pop-up stating the item was "removed because we may be out of stock." It might be different, the item is the "ARCHOS 101 Internet Tablet 8GB"

tintar


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therealjrn wrote:Going directly to the store https://store.archos.com/ when I clicked on the "add to cart" I got a pop-up stating the item was "removed because we may be out of stock."



aha! thanks for that ;-) I was getting a little worried I had just paid for like 10 or 15 of them, haha...

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The screen was meh but the battery overheated and locked up the whole thing. I can't get it to run for more that 10 minutes before it crashes from overheating. Run!!!

dracken wrote:Anyone know how the screens are on this? The Nook has an IPS screen which you can see from pretty much any angle, is this similar? Are the colors pretty accurate?

Also what is the average battery life if anyone knows



watsweird182


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thomas998 wrote:The deal is crap... If you don't know why let me explain... There are certain companies that need no explanation, Yugo is one... And Archos makes the quality and customer service of Yugo look like that of Lexus. Archos is just that bad.

While you might enjoy the product for 5 minutes the odds are the tablet would lock up or freeze, you wouldn't be able to get it fixed because their customer service provides zero service... You would probably need some add ons to get full functionality, and Archos would charge you for those... I truly wish woot wouldn't offer this type of crap, because in this case you are paying a lot of money for a Bunch of Change.



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Warning: the above post contains multiple instances of hypothetical bashing on a device and company in which the user has clearly never properly come into contact with prior to posting negative reviews.

therealjrn


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OK, I know better than to click that button at 2 AM...I see cases are 30 bucks from the Archos store...hmm...must be some less expensive ones on eBay...so I'm going to need 20 - 30 bucks for an ethernet adapter, plus another 20 - 30 for a decent case...hmm...too bad the card on sellout won't work with this.

darkblood251


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I won an archos 32 tablet through a contest a while back. A couple months later the on/off key stopped working. Contacted archos support and they said to send it in for repair. I sent it in and they sent me back a brand new unit! very surprised with how well the whole process went. My only gripe is that using the supplied app store on it you are able to side load the market, but by doing this it causes the tablet to lock up every 5 minutes requiring a hard reset. All i want is my google music Anyways, Kudos to archos! Very satisfied with their customer service.

borntohunt


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In case you just need a short video sample, here's a recent 1:09 overview demo by TheVerge below which is not the faster Turbo 1.5GHz CPU better model Woot is selling:

"Archos G9 tablets with Android 4.0 (hands-on)"



"Uploaded by TheVerge on Jan 12, 2012
David takes a look at the Archos 101 G9 running ICS."

tintar


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therealjrn wrote:OK, I know better than to click that button at 2 AM...I see cases are 30 bucks from the Archos store...hmm...must be some less expensive ones on eBay...so I'm going to need 20 - 30 bucks for an ethernet adapter, plus another 20 - 30 for a decent case...hmm...too bad the card on sellout won't work with this.



haha yeah I know what you mean about the 2am... I think I would have been pretty satisfied if I had gotten the deal from the archos store, but I'm also kinda glad I didn't - we all know android tablet prices will be dropping the closer it gets to year end.

archossupport


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watsweird182 wrote:^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Warning: the above post contains multiple instances of hypothetical bashing on a device and company in which the user has clearly never properly come into contact with prior to posting negative reviews.



If you are experiencing an issue like this then please contact us via email, chat or phone. We will either fix it or over one of the aforementioned contact methods, or we will replace it under warranty.

Tech Support / RMA Phone #: 877.300.8879
Tech Support Hours:
Monday - Friday: 9am – 8pm CST
Saturday: 10am - 6pm CST
Closed Sunday
Closed Holidays

borntohunt


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craigarchos wrote:No - the only other difference is the RAM.

This model has 512 MB and the one on the store for $299 has 1GB RAM.

And this tablet can have ICS too - just takes about 5 minutes to upgrade.



Lower or Half the RAM or System Memory is probably one of the reasons this deal today is less at $220, besides trustworthy Woot always tries to offer us the best deal they can.


borntohunt


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whatsamattaU wrote:I'm guessing I've got the right links:

Manual:
http://www.archos.com/manuals/A101G9_EN_ICS.html

Product page:
http://www.archos.com/products/gen9/archos_101g9/index.html?country=us&lang=en

The "getting started" guide is a bunch of menu-chosen videos for the honeycomb model it looks like, not the ice cream sandwich model this one is, but still may be handy:
http://www.archos.com/support/support_tech/manuals_gg9.html?country=us&lang=en

As with most posts, I don't own this nor can vouch either way for this, but this may help.


whatsamattaU wrote:One quick question: do I have the info pages/links to the right model on the first page entry? Thanks, gotta go.



You're right as usual with the product web site being for the Archos A101 G9 10-inch model and the faster Turbo 1.5GHz processor is mention several places, too.

gregbowman


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lwang wrote:Why would tech savvy people care about customer support? They would just hack into it and make all the changes themselves. No source code? What's the big deal? decompile the code, reprogram the kernel in machine langage. Why are you acting like a phony tech savvy person?



You're right (even though you take the issue to the point of absurdity), - problem is, a brick is a brick is a brick (out of the box) and their support to deal with that issue and replace is horrendous (was not an option to return to vendor).

Others, that have to rely on basic customer support issues have continuously reported tremendous problems with Archos customer service.

I had to copy them on the BBB complaint (BTW their US return center gets an F from the BBB)I filed and wait two weeks (while continuing to email and phone daily) until they would address the issue under warranty.

And, many tech savvy people recognize that non-existent customer support is an issue, regardless of their level of expertise - hence the 'savvy' . . . And, when you need it (and with Archos products, you probably will), it won't be there.

Go ahead and buy an Archos and find out the hard way.

There's a reason these guys from Archos are working this so hard and woot! is pulling comments critical of Archos customer service . . . do the math.

The only customer service you may get from Archos will be as long as these two salespeople from Archos remain in the thread, so ask all your questions now.

tintar


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borntohunt wrote:Lower or Half the RAM or System Memory is probably one of the reasons this deal today is less at $220, besides trustworthy Woot always tries to offer us the best deal they can.



yep. I'm definitely going to keep a watch on this archos in particular for the rest of the year, and if I see the 1gb version at a good price again I'm pretty sure I'll get one. I'm sure the no-name brands will get even cheaper, but I already had one of those from dealextreme and definitely not going back there again! (wifi antenna missing so I had to solder it on myself? yipes.)

to bring up android-x86 again, I run ICS on my ibm x61-tablet (basic cons are: poor battery life, non-multitouch, and large-clunkiness). I've run it with 512mb ram, and with 4gb ram, and honestly it doesn't seem terribly different either way. and that is with no particular optimization for memory vs what archos said they did for 512mb. but still better to have more for future-proofing.

JessTx26


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craigarchos wrote:There is no replacement batteries - they are not removable.



That's a deal breaker for me!

61 orders totaling 94 items
(including 7 Screaming Woot Monkeys Red & Black & Brown)(
Candi, The USB Pole Dancer)

zener


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It seems very risky to trust a company with so many dissatisfied customers. But now I want a kickstand for my tablet.

archossupport


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gregbowman wrote:You're right (even though you take the issue to the point of absurdity), - problem is, a brick is a brick is a brick (out of the box) and their support to deal with that issue and replace is horrendous (was not an option to return to vendor).

Others, that have to rely on basic customer support issues have continuously reported tremendous problems with Archos customer service.

I had to copy them on the BBB complaint (BTW their US return center gets an F from the BBB)I filed and wait two weeks (while continuing to email and phone daily) until they would address the issue under warranty.

And, many tech savvy people recognize that non-existent customer support is an issue, regardless of their level of expertise - hence the 'savvy' . . . And, when you need it (and with Archos products, you probably will), it won't be there.

Go ahead and buy an Archos and find out the hard way.

There's a reason these guys from Archos are working this so hard and woot! is pulling comments critical of Archos customer service . . . do the math.

The only customer service you may get from Archos will be as long as these two salespeople from Archos remain in the thread, so ask all your questions now.



Archos is constantly working on improving customer support/service. Aside from email and US based phone support, we also offer chat services on archos.com. Working on Woot is another example of things we are doing to improve the customer experience.

If we can not fix your issue over the phone we replace your unit under warranty, its as simple as that.

If you had an issue with your RMA, please contact us and ask for Paul D. I am one of the managers with Archos support and I assure you, I will take care of it.

borntohunt


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CowboyDann wrote:

Here is a short little vidja review from The Digital Digest.



[Thunderthighs: That is the Classic 1.0GHz model. Ours is the Turbo 1.5GHz model.]



That OLD video is from Nov 30, 2010 & was popular with 116,435 Views while the description reports that "This 10.1 inch Android tablet running 2.1", but the product Woot is selling is the much newer better Turbo Android 4.03 ICS model that just became available for consumer purchase the 1st week of Feb. 2012 this year.

Here's the web link for CowbowDann's video in case anyone wants to read rest of the description, web links, & other details posted on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Bdl7SuUu4

therealjrn


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borntohunt wrote:That OLD video is from Nov 30, 2010 & was popular with 116,435 Views while the description reports that "This 10.1 inch Android tablet running 2.1", but the product Woot is selling is the much newer better Turbo Android 4.03 ICS model that just became available for consumer purchase the 1st week of Feb. 2012 this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Bdl7SuUu4



Your youtube link seems to be the same as cowboydann's. I've already seen that

borntohunt


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therealjrn wrote:Your youtube link seems to be the same as cowboydann's. I've already seen that



Yep, I posted it in case anyone wanted to read the rest of the video description, web links, & other details. I edited the post & added an explanation so more folks do not go to it by mistake unless they want to know more about the video.

therealjrn


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borntohunt wrote:Yep, I posted it in case anyone wanted to read the rest of the video description, web links, & other details.



OK, I understand. I'm going to go look at the Infantino Dancy Antsy now and clear my head of tablet dreams.

borntohunt


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Here's another recent short 2:42 overview demo video below which includes some cool gadget widgets I have not seen folks including with computer tablets . . .

"Archos 101 G9 Turbo Tablet Hands-On Demo - CES 2012 -"



Jan 17, 2012

"Archos 101 G9 is the latest tablet in the G9 series from Archos. It comes with a 1.0 GHz dual core processor, 1 GB of RAM ,10.1 inch display with 1280 x 800 resolution, 8 GB, 16 GB and 250 GB storage options, full HDMI out, micro SD and micro USB ports. There is also a full size USB port hidden in the back that also supports 3G connectivity and a kickstand. It also going to be upgradable to Android 4.0 ICS in the future."

jsvend


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meh, no-name manufacturer. ok maybe in uk but not america where it really counts. i havent been impressed by any "tablet" or anything other than the amazon kindle or ipod touch. a "tablet" does nothingfor me, as i have a real desktop and a real laptop. what is this "tablet" and what's it supposed to fulfill in my life? i have all the functionality i need. when i cant whip out my laptop, i hvae my phone for things like phone calls and texting and gps. so waht else is there? lol

borntohunt


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therealjrn wrote:OK, I understand. I'm going to go look at the Infantino Dancy Antsy now and clear my head of tablet dreams.



That's funny. Let's go ahead & embed your web link image . . .


bear8699


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I've read most of the posts and am as confused as the offers that have come before. I've bought -six- different ARCHOS devices over the past 10 or so years and have not had any 'problems' (I have read of the poor customer service and was dreading that if I needed something). I've found them to do all they say, are plenty fast enough for me and the construction is good too. For the money they are a bargain IMO. I was about to buy a new one (my 101 10.1in is just too big) and saw the G9 80 is a 4:3 (which I really like) but needed the size of a 7in for reading and the ability to hold for longer periods of time so got a great deal on a Galaxy Tab 2 in 7in - but really wanted that 80. I use my 5IT as a replacement for my old PDA (HP lasted 12 years!). If I have a complaint right now, it would be that ARCHOS has cut off our upgrades on Android versions far too soon for something we bought from them (the Microsoft routine of forcing you to upgrade to new hardware). I would like to make my purchases last a little longer than a few months. I can't upgrade the 5IT or the 101 G8 it seems and THAT does not please me at all. ARCHOS construction is as good as any on the market and 1/2 the cost of an iPad with 12% more screen. Just puzzled about all the bad comments.

therealjrn


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borntohunt wrote:That's funny. Let's go ahead & embed your web link image . . .



Now if there was only some way to easily order one with a reasonable shipping cost...wow...maybe ThunderThi... will know where to get one ;)

ThunderThighs


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Staff

therealjrn wrote:Now if there was only some way to easily order one with a reasonable shipping cost...wow...maybe ThunderThi... will know where to get one ;)



ThunderThiGHS! They can't have the last 3 letters of my name. I will fight for what is mine!

hurt


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In for one! One of my first Woots was the Archos AV500! It was easy to use, transferred files over to it via USB and it played without installing codecs, pretty simple and straight forward. Firmware updates kept it active for a year or two after. Hoping the quality is the same with this! For those who don't know who Archos is, they were one of the first companies that specialized in portable media before Tablets came out!

therealjrn


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ThunderThighs wrote:ThunderThiGHS! They can't have the last 3 letters of my name. I will fight for what is mine!



We support you in your struggle Your Thighness.

thericochet


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I've never done HDMI-out with any devices, so are there any HDCP issues here with using Netflix or Amazon Prime Video streaming from the G9 to an HDTV? Or with downloaded HD AVI or MKV files?

Edit: Also will any cheap universal HDMI-out cable work?

whatsamattaU


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ThunderThighs wrote:ThunderThiGHS! They can't have the last 3 letters of my name. I will fight for what is mine!



"Hey guys, you don't suppose there are any moderators around at this hours, do you? Maybe even Ms. ThuderThi ?"
"Nah, the realjrn, nobody's out there."
"Well, go check. Test it out. Call her name out. See if the coast is clear."
"Ok."



"Nice going, therealjrn, we're in trouble now."

Going to try to catch a few hours sleep, Your Royal Thighness. In case I don't get the chance later, have a good weekend.

therealjrn


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thericochet wrote:I've never done HDMI-out with any devices, so are there any HDCP issues here with using Netflix or Amazon Prime Video streaming from the G9 to an HDTV? Or with downloaded HD AVI or MKV files?

Edit: Also will any cheap universal HDMI-out cable work?



I don't know about your HDCP issues question, but it is my understanding a digital signal like HDMI either gets there or it don't--so cheapo cables are fine to use generally. I use $1 HDMI cables at my house for my TV/blu ray/TiVo/Roku's and haven't had any problems.

thericochet


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therealjrn wrote:I don't know about your HDCP issues question, but it is my understanding a digital signal like HDMI either gets there or it don't--so cheapo cables are fine to use generally. I use $1 HDMI cables at my house for my TV/blu ray/TiVo/Roku's and haven't had any problems.



Yeah that's been my experience with HDMI cables in the past, but I've never really had to deal with HDMI-out and have peripherally read about HDCP issues with some devices.

Also reading the last page of the last time this product was on woot:

http://www.woot.com/forums/viewpost.aspx?postid=4841646&PageIndex=6&ReplyCount=231

And there were several RMAs on this tablet. Lots of touchscreen defects it seems. Complaints start halfway down the page when people started receiving it.

Can anyone from Archos address that? I'm not interested in wasting time waiting for it to arrive, then having to pay return shipping for something that's sub-par.

drcanak


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thericochet wrote:
Also reading the last page of the last time this product was on woot:

And there were several RMAs on this tablet. Lots of touchscreen defects it seems. Complaints start halfway down the page when people started receiving it.



Well, it looks like Woot! sold 1800+ units last time, with 10 or so people hitting the forums with problems after they arrived. So, problems? Yes. Enough problems to be more concerned than any other consumer electronic product ordered here? Probably not.

ultrawolf


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A question on HDMI out...

On this and really any Android tablet with HDMI out, the specs always say something like "Play out your favorite videos on a large screen TV with the HDMI out connection". Does the HDMI out only display video content playing through the tablet's video player or does it replicate the tablet's display (e.g., to browse the web, play games, etc using the TV as an external monitor)? Thanks.

(Note: I know an optional HDMI adapter is required for this Archos)

ultrawolf

thericochet


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ultrawolf wrote:A question on HDMI out...

On this and really any Android tablet with HDMI out, the specs always say something like "Play out your favorite videos on a large screen TV with the HDMI out connection". Does the HDMI out only display video content playing through the tablet's video player or does it replicate the tablet's display (e.g., to browse the web, play games, etc using the TV as an external monitor)? Thanks.

(Note: I know an optional HDMI adapter is required for this Archos)



It replicates the tablet's display. You can see it in action in the 2nd video of this post:

http://www.woot.com/forums/viewpost.aspx?postid=5035557

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I'm assuming a regular USB-to-HDMI cable would suffice then for this? Nothing proprietary to Archos?