SuperNinja wrote:I would buy it if my 8 year old Dell laptop would die.

Could be any day. Mine did recently, and I wish I'd have gotten something sooner rather than waiting.JMO

Shinespark wrote:Whoever wrote that review is a Mr. Limpet for even suggesting the 4250 is a discrete GPU.

Lenovo specifies nearly every amd graphics chip as discrete/dedicated even on the fusion (where it really is integrated). Intel means integrated!... but I get where you're coming from there.

ThunderThighs wrote:They do appear to be ... not there. I'll request them. It'll likely be morning before I hear back.

See...what a perfect example.... Woot, you have been @ this for how long?

ThunderThighs shouldn't always have to go bailing out the team this often! It's not like we are still in Beta mode, but then again looking @ the Woot servers, maybe we always have been....

Also, this isn't a bells & whistles laptop.

BUT for all of you guys on the fence, from what I have seen, Lenovo reliability & repair rates are substantially better than anything Acer/Gateway/Emachine & most HP's too.

All of the machines have tons of similar outsourced parts that can easily fail, regardless of laptop manufacturer.

But, I've seen hundreds of HP & Lenovo machines deployed side by side & the Lenovo clearly wins.

I don't get nearly as many callbacks for problems & I rarely see a Lenovo MB failure....especially a design failure unlike HP's multiple 'what were they smoking' design failures....

I work at a computer repair place. We have just as many Lenovo laptops as any other brand, HP, Dell or otherwise. I agree they have somehow been able to maintain a good company image and I have yet to really hear a story where Lenovo had bad service. However the idea that they fail any less than the rest is a fallacy. I'd be interested to see some 3rd party statistics though. As someone who frequents dealnews.com I can say this woot deal is mediocre at best. I can think of 5 laptop deals that I've seen in the past 2 weeks that are better than this, and 2 of them cheaper. 1 was an HP ProBook for $430. That's a business class laptop.
As someone who fixes laptops, for the love of all that is good, PLEASE do not buy a laptop/PC with windows 7 and less than 4GB of RAM. RAM is cheap and works wonders when you have enough of it. My netbook from 3 years ago had 2GB of RAM, save yourself some trouble and avoid anything less. As someone stated earlier its super easy on most laptops to upgrade the RAM yourself though you can find great deals that come with 4GB already.

kalee11 wrote:Love the subtle mistakes.

Your and you're mix-up, southmore instead of sophomore, pre-Madonna instead of prima donna, fullproof instead of foolproof, regress instead of digress, youthanism instead of euphemism, feeble instead of fetal, and chuck instead of chock.

Did I miss any?

"upmost" instead of utmost.

Here is a comparison chart with model numbers from the Lenovo website.

kalee11 wrote:Love the subtle mistakes.

Your and you're mix-up, southmore instead of sophomore, pre-Madonna instead of prima donna, fullproof instead of foolproof, regress instead of digress, youthanism instead of euphemism, feeble instead of fetal, and chuck instead of chock.

Did I miss any?

I missed the your and you're mix-up. I believe it should be utmost instead of upmost and the title disillusioned instead of dissolutioned.

nickmiller21 wrote:Duuh.... the 14" has Win 7 Professional. Seems it is a Business line model. More compact = more expensive when trying to pack in the same features. Who in their right mind wants to travel 3 weeks out of the 4 per month, packing a 15.6" or 17" widescreen laptop in their carryon luggage? Not familiar with this actual model, but the 14" might be a true business line laptop that is built on a business line chassis... aka... an imfamous TRUE THINKPAD. Those were build tougher to last longer...

Coming from working on computers & lots of experience, I avoid most any retail PC/Laptops nowadays. They are built to self distruct a lot quicker than the business models.

Esp the pc/laptops that are sold @ Best Buy.... avoid at all cost. They are designed to have a BB ext-warranty put on them... They are built cheaper so that the Geek Squad can find a way to void your expensive warranty. So they then can quote double to fix it for than what you paid for the laptop, so they look like you savior when they are 'understanding' & knock 10% off another new over priced POS & sell you the same useless warranty all over! ....That's their game... knew too many who worked in all aspects of BB to ever desire to shop or get service done there....

The reason Geek Squad is really there isn't to be there fore you! It's not to fix computers, it's to force people into more unecessary repeat sales faster than they ever should have to & sell expensive add ons that cost them little more than a few pennies on the dollar...

Sad that they brainwash their employees so much to think that they are actually providing clueless soccer moms an awesome buying experience, when they are really taking them for a really crappy ride....

Wow... that post went way off track... but true.... BUT MY POINT IS: Stick w/ non retail laptops if possible & ALWAYS LOOK TO WOOT & SQUARETRADE for HONEST & AWESOME DEALS!!

Usually, the larger the laptop, the higher the price. Though in this case, the 14" gets a larger and faster hard drive and Win 7 Pro, which is the real reason this laptop is more expensive. Pro costs $100 more than Home Premium.

But I wouldn't buy either one. Both have no USB 3.0 or Bluetooth. I would rather have those than the DVD drive. Practically, no one uses a DVD drive nowadays and almost any media can be downloaded or stored on USB flash drives. And if you're going to get a 15.6" or higher laptop, get one that has a full keyboard (aka, numeric keypad).

Yes, these are a little on the heavy side, but 15.6" or 17" are not that heavy. The 15.6" is about 6 lbs and 17" is around 10 lbs. You carried around 15 to 20 lbs of books in high school and college. If you can't carry a 6 or 10-lb lappy, you're out of shape.

Bottom line: These laptops are not bad for office productivity, video watching, and playing low to mid-resolution games. But the prices could be lower. And if you lose or break one of these, you won't feel too bad, unless you had naughty pics of your ex-gf stored and didn't back them up.

kalee11 wrote:Love the subtle mistakes.

Your and you're mix-up, southmore instead of sophomore, pre-Madonna instead of prima donna, fullproof instead of foolproof, regress instead of digress, youthanism instead of euphemism, feeble instead of fetal, and chuck instead of chock.

Did I miss any?

The rolling comment asks if you "pass the muster" as proofreader. The term is "pass muster".

Now someone please pass the mustard. It's Fathers' Day.

kalee11 wrote:Love the subtle mistakes.

Your and you're mix-up, southmore instead of sophomore, pre-Madonna instead of prima donna, fullproof instead of foolproof, regress instead of digress, youthanism instead of euphemism, feeble instead of fetal, and chuck instead of chock.

Did I miss any?

Dissolutioned should be Disillusioned, upmost should be utmost, chuck should be chalk

If this came standard with 4GB or more I would have ordered one, but at 2GB I can't justify it. Sorry woot.

AMD Turion chips produce a lot of heat. I had an HP laptop with a Turion chip and I HAD to use a laptop cooler pad or it would have burned me. Even the wrist-rest area would get too hot to use. A few weeks ago, the CPU simply stopped working (according to the error code I got when the laptop stopped POSTing) after only 3 years. I would caution against getting any Turion chip laptop.

It's basically a beefed up netbook.

ThunderThighs wrote:Debated that for a bit and made the wrong choice of course. Fixed now.

Didn't mean to pick nits; I thought it was part of the theme.

nickmiller21 wrote:
Esp the pc/laptops that are sold @ Best Buy.... avoid at all cost. They are designed to have a BB ext-warranty put on them... They are built cheaper so that the Geek Squad can find a way to void your expensive warranty. So they then can quote double to fix it for than what you paid for the laptop, so they look like you savior when they are 'understanding' & knock 10% off another new over priced POS & sell you the same useless warranty all over! ....That's their game... knew too many who worked in all aspects of BB to ever desire to shop or get service done there...

Lol... yeah... manufacturers specifically build the models sent to retailers "cheaper" so that they break early, just so the retailer can sell extended service? But if you did by their extended warranty, it's automatically built cheaper simply so that they can find a way to void that warranty?

Is that after the aliens abducted you and the government forced you to remain silent about it?

Brick and mortar stores are provided with the exact same laptops the manufacturers sell elsewhere. There's no conspiracy between the manufacturers (that quite often sell their OWN extended warranty and would rather you by theirs) and the retail stores. Don't be silly.

SquareTrade's warranty is fantastic, and well-priced, but some people (like myself) prefer to pay a premium for local face-to-face service.

Anyways, as for the laptop, this is a decent buy. Certainly a much better purchase than any computer running AMD's "new" E-series processors (300/350/450). This will easily handle basic usage like web browsing/e-mail/facebook/photos/music. Especially if you bring it up to 4 or 8gb of RAM.

bluejester wrote:How about a quick and dirty review over at PC World?

Or some 17 odd reviews at cnet?

This laptop seems to not really wow them at cnet...

You do realize, though, that your links are pointing to reviews of an earlier 13.3" Edge, not this model?

mattschuette wrote:If you are just now shopping for Father's Day, our selection is not your problem! Certainly it's our shipping (zing!)

Ha! It is your selection. Read feedback from people. (zing!) Father's Day is like a free pass to buy stuff; the wife looks the other way. It is not about getting it by Father's Day.

Woot! use to be in tune with this sort of marketing but not anymore. Woot is losing the cool factor that encouraged me to buy.

Woot! needs another site named Woot.crap where they sell all of the stuff they sell now. This way, Woot.com could go back to what made it cool in the first place.

Also, make the comments easier to get to. The comments, and the prior easy access, are a very valued part of the Woot! experience. Getting to them now is just painful.

kalee11 wrote:Love the subtle mistakes.

Your and you're mix-up, southmore instead of sophomore, pre-Madonna instead of prima donna, fullproof instead of foolproof, regress instead of digress, youthanism instead of euphemism, feeble instead of fetal, and chuck instead of chock.

Did I miss any?

yes and made a couple. prima dona, chalk and of course.... utmost rather than upmost and yes disillusioned. but you can just chuck it up to the unsaddling Woot prescription of the idem.
btw i love spill-chech.

llocutus wrote:It's basically a beefed up netbook.

I would think any laptop more powerful than this one could be called "a beefed up netbook".

kalee11 wrote:Love the subtle mistakes.

Your and you're mix-up, southmore instead of sophomore, pre-Madonna instead of prima donna, fullproof instead of foolproof, regress instead of digress, youthanism instead of euphemism, feeble instead of fetal, and chuck instead of chock.

Did I miss any?

I cringe every time someone mixes up "you're" and "your," or "there" and "their." =)

To me this looks like a pretty good basic laptop for the money.

Checking the daily comments here at Woot, I've discovered that any comment starting with the word "Dude" or "Duh" is frequently not worth reading.

bonafidemike wrote:Lol... yeah... manufacturers specifically build the models sent to retailers "cheaper" so that they break early, just so the retailer can sell extended service? But if you did by their extended warranty, it's automatically built cheaper simply so that they can find a way to void that warranty?

Is that after the aliens abducted you and the government forced you to remain silent about it?

Brick and mortar stores are provided with the exact same laptops the manufacturers sell elsewhere. There's no conspiracy between the manufacturers (that quite often sell their OWN extended warranty and would rather you by theirs) and the retail stores. Don't be silly.

SquareTrade's warranty is fantastic, and well-priced, but some people (like myself) prefer to pay a premium for local face-to-face service.

Anyways, as for the laptop, this is a decent buy. Certainly a much better purchase than any computer running AMD's "new" E-series processors (300/350/450). This will easily handle basic usage like web browsing/e-mail/facebook/photos/music. Especially if you bring it up to 4 or 8gb of RAM.

I used to work for walmart and a decent portion of our laptops and computers (not all of them of course) are models ONLY sold at walmart. Same with other companies. Though i think its more of so they can say "well this models slightly different so we cant price match"

kalee11 wrote:Love the subtle mistakes.

Your and you're mix-up, southmore instead of sophomore, pre-Madonna instead of prima donna, fullproof instead of foolproof, regress instead of digress, youthanism instead of euphemism, feeble instead of fetal, and chuck instead of chock.

Did I miss any?

Never underestimate the value of a CFBISD education.

"... chuck instead of chock."

I've scene/herd of "chalk" used as in "chalk it up" but not "chock it up"

Does the coupon code " TAX SUCK " work anymore?

ROGETRAY wrote:Dude...duh

Thanks for backing me up!

mattschuette wrote:If you are just now shopping for Father's Day, our selection is not your problem! Certainly it's our shipping (zing!)

Wicked cool name there Mattschuette

Not a fan of the Thinkpad Edge even at this relatively low price. They're still on the heavy side and not to thin either. The Ideapad U series (U310 ~$579 after coupon) starts out at around twice the price, but they're superior (3rd gen Core iseries) to the Edge(s) seen here.

Smart money of course is to hold out for a T430u. I would.

ROGETRAY wrote:Yes, it works, it's actually TAXSUCKS.

TAXSUCKS should work when ----> price + shipping > $39.99.

Thanks

This is the worst laptop I have ever purchased.

1. The screen is horrible: wretched contrast, narrow viewing angle, pixelated, and the auto-dimming feature is a joke.
2. The touchpad is worthless - two finger scrolling takes a WHOLE second to engage.
3. The middle scroll button (used with the nipple) doesn't work on all apps... but it's funny how a mouse scroll wheel works just fine on everything...

The engineers at Lenovo are lazy or incompetent and released a half finished product.

Do not buy. There's a reason why it is so cheap.

Reference: Sadly, I'm using the ThinkPad Edge right now to write this comment.

Yep. Did somebody else take over from the original Wooters ?

freddyferret wrote:Excuse me if this has been discussed already, I don't read comments every day.

Has anyone else noticed that since the site was upgraded that everything here is a lot more expensive? I don't think I've seen anything under $100 recently. It really sucks. I mostly come here for the cheap deals I used to see. I'm sure there are still decent deals but I'm not up for shelling out hundreds of dollars at at time. I hope things get back into the cheaper range soon or I'll probably stop coming around so much.

nickmiller21 wrote:Duuh.... the 14" has Win 7 Professional. Seems it is a Business line model. More compact = more expensive when trying to pack in the same features. Who in their right mind wants to travel 3 weeks out of the 4 per month, packing a 15.6" or 17" widescreen laptop in their carryon luggage? Not familiar with this actual model, but the 14" might be a true business line laptop that is built on a business line chassis... aka... an imfamous TRUE THINKPAD. Those were build tougher to last longer...

Coming from working on computers & lots of experience, I avoid most any retail PC/Laptops nowadays. They are built to self distruct a lot quicker than the business models.

Esp the pc/laptops that are sold @ Best Buy.... avoid at all cost. They are designed to have a BB ext-warranty put on them... They are built cheaper so that the Geek Squad can find a way to void your expensive warranty. So they then can quote double to fix it for than what you paid for the laptop, so they look like you savior when they are 'understanding' & knock 10% off another new over priced POS & sell you the same useless warranty all over! ....That's their game... knew too many who worked in all aspects of BB to ever desire to shop or get service done there....

The reason Geek Squad is really there isn't to be there fore you! It's not to fix computers, it's to force people into more unecessary repeat sales faster than they ever should have to & sell expensive add ons that cost them little more than a few pennies on the dollar...

Sad that they brainwash their employees so much to think that they are actually providing clueless soccer moms an awesome buying experience, when they are really taking them for a really crappy ride....

Wow... that post went way off track... but true.... BUT MY POINT IS: Stick w/ non retail laptops if possible & ALWAYS LOOK TO WOOT & SQUARETRADE for HONEST & AWESOME DEALS!!

Sad, but BestBuy has this laptop listed (for same price but with more ram) as this woot. This guys rant notwithstanding, BB is the better deal.

cdebro wrote:Ha! It is your selection. Read feedback from people. (zing!) Father's Day is like a free pass to buy stuff; the wife looks the other way. It is not about getting it by Father's Day.

Yep, exactly..
This is my first time back to woot in over a week. My wife asked, "Do they have anything you want?"

Nope.

I had this computer for about a year and a half. I started having problems with it not charging at about 1y 3mo, and now it won't even turn on anymore. Potentially i just got a bad one, but I'm just warning you.

For a cheap, basic laptop, it's one of the better ones. Other than the later power problem, I never had any problems with it. It also has an hdmi port, and bluetooth, which was nice. If you lower the settings, you can also play games better than I expected.

Overall I would definitely recommend this laptop, although I would recommend also getting an extended warranty if you can find one.

@cdebro i could not agree more! Also don't you think they could be a tad less rude to their customers?

coolbro12389 wrote:I used to work for walmart and a decent portion of our laptops and computers (not all of them of course) are models ONLY sold at walmart. Same with other companies. Though i think its more of so they can say "well this models slightly different so we cant price match"

You're right - I work at Future Shop, and it's for no other reason than to have "exclusive" models. They're not *manufactured* any different than regular models though.

SuperNinja wrote:I would buy it if my 8 year old Dell laptop would die.

LMFAO! XD