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HP Pavilion 17.3" Core i7 Notebook
$599.99 + $5 Standard Shipping
Condition: Refurbished

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I like it other than the fact that it has Intel HD graphics, which means this laptop would never be able to run games smoothly (although it's good for everything else.)

adamchatfield wrote:I like it other than the fact that it has Intel HD graphics, which means this laptop would never be able to run games smoothly (although it's good for everything else.)

Ehh that was my concern. Everything else on this looks great though. Is that an integrated graphics card?

Uh... now that woot is in Washington, shouldn't Texas sales tax be obviated? Especially since this is an HP, Cali based, not a Dell, Texas based. HP makes good stuff.

Had me right up until that damnable Intel Graphics Proc.

Time for a cold shower.

This would be the golden goose if it had a decent video card, or even a slot to add one in aftermarket.

all that beautiful processing power just goes completely to waste without one.

what's the point?

aznxenocide wrote:Ehh that was my concern. Everything else on this looks great though. Is that an integrated graphics card?

Seems like it's in with the processor...

http://ark.intel.com/products/53469

adamchatfield wrote:I like it other than the fact that it has Intel HD graphics, which means this laptop would never be able to run games smoothly (although it's good for everything else.)

That and it's a 2nd generation i7. I believe you can find 3rd generation i7s on HP's website for around $900.

I want it... not for play but work! Its Great precisely for that.. Woot needs to get like HSN and hook you up with some easy pay... What cha say WOOT 4 Easy payments of 149.99

I might be wrong, but I think I detect a subtle song nod on the woot plus turn tables and microphone...

Typing from almost this same laptop right now. Bought about 3 weeks ago off Amazon for about $150 less, only difference is it has the 3rd Generation I5 instead of the I7.

ripforeverjoey wrote:Typing from almost this same laptop right now. Bought about 3 weeks ago off Amazon for about $150 less, only difference is it has the 3rd Generation I5 instead of the I7.

which is something of a difference

Not much of a gamer, but it would be an awesome office or entertainment laptop.

Well, if you're looking for something that can run WoW, then sure, but forget Skyrim.

Is that a fingerprint scanner I see? The layout is nearly identical to the dv7 I bought about 18 months ago, and it has one, but I don't see it mentioned in the specs.

maduro24 wrote:I want it... not for play but work! Its Great precisely for that.. Woot needs to get like HSN and hook you up with some easy pay... What cha say WOOT 4 Easy payments of 149.99

Oh, don't I wish! Doubt it will happen, but for those of us on a fixed income and no credit cards those easy payments are a real blessing.

why don't the woot stats make any sense. It says 17% of purchasers joined today but 0% is 1st or 2nd time purchases...how does that compute?

So I'm not interested in gaming, everingthing else looks good.
Question, is this second generation I7 going to last me? Really looking for a great laptop. (One that is built for the future)

Appreciate the help.

JMuskovitz wrote:Is that a fingerprint scanner I see? The layout is nearly identical to the dv7 I bought about 18 months ago, and it has one, but I don't see it mentioned in the specs.

Yes, it is a fingerprint scanner.

Also, I don't think it is said anywhere that this thing is encased in brushed aluminum, not plastic like many other HPs, and with the 9 cell battery I'm getting about 8 hours on a charge with constant music, video, and internet browsing/flash gaming.

laizurkainon wrote:which is something of a difference

There are only five i5 that are faster than this i7 and I don’t see any of them for sale at amazon, in fact most 47% slower i5-2450 2.50GHz are priced $650 to $850.

Intel Core i5-3570K @ 3.40GHz 7,729 $219.99*
Intel Core i5-3550 @ 3.30GHz 7,648 $209.99*
Intel Core i5-3450 @ 3.10GHz 7,172 $199.99*
Intel Core i5-2550K @ 3.40GHz 7,003 $229.98*
Intel Core i5-3450S @ 2.80GHz 6,814 $199.99*
Intel Core i7-2670QM @ 2.20GHz 6,801 $264.00
Intel Core i5-2450M @ 2.50GHz 3,576

aznxenocide wrote:Ehh that was my concern. Everything else on this looks great though. Is that an integrated graphics card?

Yeah that's the downside of this model. to get a real video card I think you need to move up out of the Pavallion and into the Envy series. I have one of those bought around maybe a year ago now, and it's stinkin fast (especially when I retrofitted one of the two drives with an SSD) plays City Of Heroes (which recently had a graphics engine upgrade) with most of the video settings at or near max. Still lags a little behind a high end ($400+) dedicated desktop vid card, but awesome for a laptop

The compute power on this model is great, and the video will be sufficient for most uses except serious games where the FPS rate matters.

HP's DV-series is known for causing some headaches, but they're great sellers because you get a lot for your money.

The processor is faster than 95% of people will ever need in the lifetime of the machine. 8 GB of RAM is plenty for almost anyone. The battery life should be a decent four hours or so. Build quality on these machines is generally above average for consumer laptops.

However, gaming performance will suffer from the lack of a dedicated GPU, and the 1600x900 screen is nothing to write home about, unless you're writing to complain.

All-in-all, it's a decent laptop at a decent price. Shopping around could yield a more balanced machine that trades excess processor power for GPU power at the same price point, but you're probably not going to get 1080p at this price, and if you need processor power and don't really need GPU power, you'll be hard-pressed to match this deal in a DTR.

erikdhille wrote:There are only five i5 that are faster than this i7 and I don’t see any of them for sale at amazon, in fact most 47% slower i5-2450 2.50GHz are priced $650 to $850.

Intel Core i5-3570K @ 3.40GHz 7,729 $219.99*
Intel Core i5-3550 @ 3.30GHz 7,648 $209.99*
Intel Core i5-3450 @ 3.10GHz 7,172 $199.99*
Intel Core i5-2550K @ 3.40GHz 7,003 $229.98*
Intel Core i5-3450S @ 2.80GHz 6,814 $199.99*
Intel Core i7-2670QM @ 2.20GHz 6,801 $264.00
Intel Core i5-2450M @ 2.50GHz 3,576

Umm, all of those i5's you're linking are desktop processors. That's like putting a purse up against a lineup of backpacks with regards to carrying capacity.

erikdhille wrote:There are only five i5 that are faster than this i7 and I don’t see any of them for sale at amazon, in fact most 47% slower i5-2450 2.50GHz are priced $650 to $850.

Intel Core i5-3570K @ 3.40GHz 7,729 $219.99*
Intel Core i5-3550 @ 3.30GHz 7,648 $209.99*
Intel Core i5-3450 @ 3.10GHz 7,172 $199.99*
Intel Core i5-2550K @ 3.40GHz 7,003 $229.98*
Intel Core i5-3450S @ 2.80GHz 6,814 $199.99*
Intel Core i7-2670QM @ 2.20GHz 6,801 $264.00
Intel Core i5-2450M @ 2.50GHz 3,576

The CPU speed doesn't tell the entire story. The Bus interface is also different between the i5 and i7, with the latter having significantly better memory access speeds, which can make a difference for big memory games or apps like lightroom or photoshop that use tons of RAM. If it's something compute intensive that can run mostly from cache, you may not notice a difference if you get a speed comparable i5 vs i7, but once you start doing an serious memory access you will be able to tell the difference

cernenus wrote:Yeah that's the downside of this model. to get a real video card I think you need to move up out of the Pavallion and into the Envy series. I have one of those bought around maybe a year ago now, and it's stinkin fast (especially when I retrofitted one of the two drives with an SSD) plays City Of Heroes (which recently had a graphics engine upgrade) with most of the video settings at or near max. Still lags a little behind a high end ($400+) dedicated desktop vid card, but awesome for a laptop

The compute power on this model is great, and the video will be sufficient for most uses except serious games where the FPS rate matters.

A couple things:

DV-series (Pavilion) laptops typically offer the same or better GPUs as the Envy series in every size range but 17". They tend to come standard in the Envys, though, rather than as upgrades, and they're not user-upgradeable so this machine is stuck at HD3000.

HD3000 doesn't lag "a little" behind a $400+ desktop GPU. It lags a little behind a $40 desktop GPU. A $400 desktop GPU is a Nimitz-class carrier to the HD3000's inflatable dinghy.

NOT a good deal. I bought a DV7-7000 quad edition with newest ivy bridge processor, 2gb video card, back lit keyboard, 1080 screen, and blu ray player for around $1060 a few weeks ago. Specs below....

**also note it has a faster hard drive and warranty.


HP Pavilion dv7t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC
• Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• System Recovery DVD with Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• 3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM Processor (2.3 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
• NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GT 650M Graphics with 2GB GDDR5 memory [HDMI, VGA]
• FREE UPGRADE to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• 750GB 7200 rpm Hybrid Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
• NO mSSD Hard Drive Acceleration Cache
• Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
• No additional security software
• 30% off 9 cell Lithium Ion Battery • 17.3-inch diagonal Full HD Anti-glare LED-backlit Display (1920 x 1080)
• FREE Upgrade to Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
• HP TrueVision HD Webcam • Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
• Backlit Keyboard
• Included 2 Year Warranty
• HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

Passmark scores this i7-2670QM processor at 6800, quite fast for a laptop.

A i5-2500k scores 6740 at passmark.

Here is a video of an i5-2500k (using HD3000 graphics) playing BattleField 3. Not very playable.

Need for Speed The Run plays at 10FPS in this video, again not playable.

Call of Duty Black Ops plays a little better on a similar system in this video.

Hard core games need not apply here, but casual games should be happy enough. Older generation games will play find and those who spend their life on WoW and similar games will have no problems.

ckeilah wrote:Uh... now that woot is in Washington, shouldn't Texas sales tax be obviated? Especially since this is an HP, Cali based, not a Dell, Texas based. HP makes good stuff.

Uhhhhh, do you understand that you are buying from a company headquartered in TX no matter where the items are manufactured? Woot is based in TX and it doesn't matter where Dell or HP are based. Maybe we shouldn't pay any sales tax because HP are made in China?

krumble wrote:Uhhhhh, do you understand that you are buying from a company headquartered in TX no matter where the items are manufactured? Woot is based in TX and it doesn't matter where Dell or HP are based. Maybe we shouldn't pay any sales tax because HP are made in China?

The "now that Woot is in Washington" remark is worth considering, but they still warehouse in and ship from Texas, so both states are probably taxed.

nicklcarey wrote:NOT a good deal. I bought a DV7-7000 quad edition with newest ivy bridge processor, 2gb video card, back lit keyboard, 1080 screen, and blu ray player for around $1060 a few weeks ago. Specs below....

**also note it has a faster hard drive and warranty.

A) Hope you used a coupon - you can usually save 25-35% on CTO models from HP with coupons. Your price sounds more like HPA discount, only 10%.

B) There's a $460 difference between the prices of the two laptops (and are you counting tax and shipping?). Is yours better? Sure. It's not really comparable though.

JMuskovitz wrote:Is that a fingerprint scanner I see? The layout is nearly identical to the dv7 I bought about 18 months ago, and it has one, but I don't see it mentioned in the specs.

Yes it does have a fingerprint scanner

Its so sad this comes with integrated graphics. I dont even understand how they could do that. Anybody that needs this type of processor would want an actual graphics card. You dont need this i7 to open word or IE. What a waste. Might have to pour some out for this one

fatdragon wrote:A) Hope you used a coupon - you can usually save 25-35% on CTO models from HP with coupons. Your price sounds more like HPA discount, only 10%.

B) There's a $460 difference between the prices of the two laptops (and are you counting tax and shipping?). Is yours better? Sure. It's not really comparable though.

I did get it at a 33% discount. It did cost $250 to upgrade the screen and graphics card. The question to ask though is why get a 17.3 in laptop??? gaming, video, high performance tasks. This means don't skimp on video card or screen.

If I was looking something for business then I would get one that has a smaller screen, same power, better battery life, lighter (portable). To me, it makes more sense to go this route.

Although this is a decent laptop, $604 to edit word documents on a machine that isn't very portable...doesn't make sense to me.

dtcbob wrote:Its so sad this comes with integrated graphics. I dont even understand how they could do that. Anybody that needs this type of processor would want an actual graphics card. You dont need this i7 to open word or IE. What a waste. Might have to pour some out for this one

You couldn't have said it better. It's like a Hummer you can't drive in the mud. Sure it looks cool... but one day you will want to go off road.

Ok, I'm not seeing the words "Blu Ray" in the specs, but I see "Super-Multi DVD". Same or not the same? Thanks!

nicklcarey wrote:NOT a good deal. I bought a DV7-7000 quad edition with newest ivy bridge processor, 2gb video card, back lit keyboard, 1080 screen, and blu ray player for around $1060 a few weeks ago. Specs below....

**also note it has a faster hard drive and warranty.

Your comparison made me LOL. Really? You only wanted to point out that it has a faster HD and warranty?

avalanche221 wrote:Ok, I'm not seeing the words "Blu Ray" in the specs, but I see "Super-Multi DVD". Same or not the same? Thanks!

Not Blu-Ray, the Super Multi refers to plus "DVD+R/DVD+RW" and minus "DVD-R/DVD-RW" DVDs. It has the ability to read and write both. Thanks Sony

avalanche221 wrote:Ok, I'm not seeing the words "Blu Ray" in the specs, but I see "Super-Multi DVD". Same or not the same? Thanks!

Not the same.

Just so I get this straight- I'm no longer a PC gamer- I'm just looking for longevity for school work/browsing/I occassionally run photoshop + random home movie editing.

This is or isn't a good fit for... say through Jan 2015.

dtcbob wrote:Your comparison made me LOL. Really? You only wanted to point out that it has a faster HD and warranty?

FYI, The 1 year square trade warranty is 89.99. This will put this laptop closer to the $700 range.