njnuccio wrote:Just so I get this straight- I'm no longer a PC gamer- I'm just looking for longevity for school work/browsing/I occassionally run photoshop + random home movie editing.

This is or isn't a good fit for... say through Jan 2015.

you might have a tough time doing photoshop and movie editing on this. But prob wont notice all that much if its just basic stuff. The processor is crazy good and if you added an SSD this would be a great system for almost anything but gaming and high end editing, IMHO

I just noticed this has the 9-cell battery. The stock battery is a 6-cell and the laptop will sit flat as pictured. The 9-cell will give you an extra hump in the back which will make the laptop tilt up some. That being said, I also picked up the 9-cell. I like a little extra booty in my laptop.

Here is a pic from HP.com for the current dv7-7000 battery.
http://hpshopping.speedera.net/www.shopping.hp.com/shopping/images/cto/battery_l.jpg

***You cant see it in the pictures but this also has a sub-woofer on the bottom****

dtcbob wrote:you might have a tough time doing photoshop and movie editing on this. But prob wont notice all that much if its just basic stuff. The processor is crazy good and if you added an SSD this would be a great system for almost anything but gaming and high end editing, IMHO

thx- the stuff I edit on my current laptop is just slow but works and its from 2008. only other thing i'm wondering- anyone know if I can buy (and where) an OEM or other bluray that might fit this from another DV7 instead of the superdrive?

nicklcarey wrote:FYI, The 1 year square trade warranty is 89.99. This will put this laptop closer to the $700 range.

It was more pointing out that everything in the two laptops are different, its not even near comparable.

nicklcarey wrote:I did get it at a 33% discount. It did cost $250 to upgrade the screen and graphics card. The question to ask though is why get a 17.3 in laptop??? gaming, video, high performance tasks. This means don't skimp on video card or screen.

If I was looking something for business then I would get one that has a smaller screen, same power, better battery life, lighter (portable). To me, it makes more sense to go this route.

Although this is a decent laptop, $604 to edit word documents on a machine that isn't very portable...doesn't make sense to me.

I don't disagree with any of those comments, but it works for some people.

The large screen size makes it good for watching videos. Low pixel density makes it better for people with limited vision as well - a computer like this is a good desk-burner for older users.

A college student who wanted to use this as an entertainment DTR that can come home during vacations and run MATLAB during the semester would find this a great budget option as well. Sure, that's pretty specific, but there are applications that utilize faster processors without requiring much GPU power - often encountered in the science, math, engineering, or comp. sci. fields.

Will most buyers of this laptop either underutilize the processor, be disappointed by the GPU, or both? Probably. But this machine isn't totally without merit, and it's probably better than whatever many of them would have picked up at Best Buy if this didn't show up here.

njnuccio wrote:thx- the stuff I edit on my current laptop is just slow but works and its from 2008. only other thing i'm wondering- anyone know if I can buy (and where) an OEM or other bluray that might fit this from another DV7 instead of the superdrive?

You could ask around on Notebook Review's forums or just do some ebay and Google searches, but you should absolutely be able to do so. A brief glance at ebay shows some in the $60-70 range. Not sure how much work it'll take to replace - my old zx5000 from HP was super-accessible - among other things, the DVD drive could be removed and replaced with removal of a single screw, but that's probably too much to ask of the DV7.

Incidentally, I just realized I never actually typed up my critique of the write-up: it talks about the disastrous chain that occurs for want of .3" of screen space (presumably 17" vs. 17.3"), but as anyone should know, what you get on screen depends on the resolution, not the physical size. Considering that this laptop offers the lowest resolution you're likely to find on a modern 17" laptop, it's a bit ironic that the write-up implies that this computer will display more on screen than any other 17" laptop. [/nerd]

fatdragon wrote:I don't disagree with any of those comments, but it works for some people.

The large screen size makes it good for watching videos. Low pixel density makes it better for people with limited vision as well - a computer like this is a good desk-burner for older users.

A college student who wanted to use this as an entertainment DTR that can come home during vacations and run MATLAB during the semester would find this a great budget option as well. Sure, that's pretty specific, but there are applications that utilize faster processors without requiring much GPU power - often encountered in the science, math, engineering, or comp. sci. fields.

Will most buyers of this laptop either underutilize the processor, be disappointed by the GPU, or both? Probably. But this machine isn't totally without merit, and it's probably better than whatever many of them would have picked up at Best Buy if this didn't show up here.

I agree with you and I'm not saying it's a bad laptop. But if you are on a budget and have basic needs $600+ would probably be more than you need to spend.

I own this, and I bought it for around the $780 range new, and I bought it mostly as a tool for video editing, which I haven't done yet. This computer runs crazy fast at 8gb ram, and I am about to upgrade to 16. It also has an excellent shelf life without being plugged in. Also, it is hard to tell in the pictures, but the keyboard surface is surrounded by metal, so it is cool to the touch. The newer processor does not accelerate the laptop into overheating at all like the old laptops do.

Also, I read the comments before this one, and I will tell you that the bigger screen does not make this less portable; actually, the cooling features make this even MORE portable, and the advanced speed of the i7 is noticeable at a moment's glance.

The negatives so far: The Wifi connection needs a hard restart when left on for two or three days... don't know why exactly. Numlock is never set as default, which is counter-intuitive... The HP features to save your computer are certainly more annoying and are undeniably useless. Sometimes the left hand inadvertently lowers and raises the zoom of an Internet web page when comfortably resting the left hand to the left of the mousepad.

The pros: it can take a hit and keep on ticking. The weight is ideal. It looks good. The sound is better than most. Basic functionality is awesome. Video, Internet, and other apps work great. Overall, for an i7 laptop, not bad. Speeedy and upgradeable to 16gb ram, buy this, sucker!!

I'm looking to replace my laptop and will likely be using it often but really only for the internet -- browsing, watching hulu/netflix -- and for watching movies. I don't mind the size of the machine because I won't often be travelling with it.

Is this a good buy for me or is it more machine than I need?

frogboy99 wrote:I own this, and I bought it for around the $780 range new, and I bought it mostly as a tool for video editing, which I haven't done yet. This computer runs crazy fast at 8gb ram, and I am about to upgrade to 16. It also has an excellent shelf life without being plugged in. Also, it is hard to tell in the pictures, but the keyboard surface is surrounded by metal, so it is cool to the touch. The newer processor does not accelerate the laptop into overheating at all like the old laptops do.

Also, I read the comments before this one, and I will tell you that the bigger screen does not make this less portable; actually, the cooling features make this even MORE portable, and the advanced speed of the i7 is noticeable at a moment's glance.

The negatives so far: The Wifi connection needs a hard restart when left on for two or three days... don't know why exactly. Numlock is never set as default, which is counter-intuitive... The HP features to save your computer are certainly more annoying and are undeniably useless. Sometimes the left hand inadvertently lowers and raises the zoom of an Internet web page when comfortably resting the left hand to the left of the mousepad.

The pros: it can take a hit and keep on ticking. The weight is ideal. It looks good. The sound is better than most. Basic functionality is awesome. Video, Internet, and other apps work great.

You can typically change the basic numlock setting in the bios. Also, many people assume that, because the computer has xGB of RAM and runs fast, it will be even faster with 2xGB of RAM. For video editing, you may actually be able to utilize more than 8GB, but if you haven't been monitoring your RAM usage with Task Manager or a third-party app or desktop gadget, you might find that you're never even coming close to full utilization with your current usage, which would mean that more RAM wouldn't really make a difference.

I'm also a bit confused about your portability comments. How do cooling features make the computer more portable? A 17.3" laptop is a big, heavy thing, and running a bit cooler doesn't really affect its portability. Good battery life is certainly a plus for portability, though.

lmrobbins wrote:I'm looking to replace my laptop and will likely be using it often but really only for the internet -- browsing, watching hulu/netflix -- and for watching movies. I don't mind the size of the machine because I won't often be travelling with it.

Is this a good buy for me or is it more machine than I need?

Depends on what you wanna spend. If you dont mind the price, the CPU in this laptop will last you a long time, as well as the decently sized 750gb HD (for a laptop), if you are gonna be storing some movies on it.

fatdragon wrote:Also, many people assume that, because the computer has xGB of RAM and runs fast, it will be even faster with 2xGB of RAM. For video editing, you may actually be able to utilize more than 8GB, but if you haven't been monitoring your RAM usage with Task Manager or a third-party app or desktop gadget, you might find that you're never even coming close to full utilization with your current usage, which would mean that more RAM wouldn't really make a difference.

Lol so true. People always talk about RAM and that making their computer go faster. Usually it is the HD that is your lack of speed. It is by far the slowest part of your computer.

Product support page:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&product=5210872

User guide:
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c03092987.pdf

Maintenance and service guide:
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c03099448.pdf

Video review: guy got it as a graduation present


Another video review:


Best Buy reviews:
http://reviews.bestbuy.com/3545/4810952/hp-17-3-pavilion-laptop-8gb-memory-750gb-hard-drive-dark-umber-reviews/reviews.htm

Good night

nicklcarey wrote:NOT a good deal. I bought a DV7-7000 quad edition with newest ivy bridge processor, 2gb video card, back lit keyboard, 1080 screen, and blu ray player for around $1060 a few weeks ago. Specs below....

**also note it has a faster hard drive and warranty.


HP Pavilion dv7t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC
• Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• System Recovery DVD with Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• 3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM Processor (2.3 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
• NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GT 650M Graphics with 2GB GDDR5 memory [HDMI, VGA]
• FREE UPGRADE to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• 750GB 7200 rpm Hybrid Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
• NO mSSD Hard Drive Acceleration Cache
• Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
• No additional security software
• 30% off 9 cell Lithium Ion Battery • 17.3-inch diagonal Full HD Anti-glare LED-backlit Display (1920 x 1080)
• FREE Upgrade to Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
• HP TrueVision HD Webcam • Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
• Backlit Keyboard
• Included 2 Year Warranty
• HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

So what you're saying is?

'If I want to spend 75% more of the original cost of $605. I can get an entirely different computer'

Right?


Genius.....

spektator wrote:So what you're saying is?

'If I want to spend 75% more of the original cost of $605. I can get an entirely different computer'

Right?



Genius.....

Mock me if you will... I spent $450 more and what I got was a NEWER model PC (not refurb), 1080P res screen ($150), back lit keyboard ($25), faster hard drive ($20), 2 year warranty (FREE), a REAL 2gb video card($100), and a blu ray player(FREE).

This is not a bad laptop but I can repeat this is not a deal.

I've been shopping for a laptop for a while and realized that I needed a graphics card that will "do work". If you don't need that, fine. You will probably find a better deal on Amazon.com for basic needs.

I still don't think you can find a reason to buy an i7 processor in a 17.3in laptop without a decent graphics card.

This processor is good but what is the point if you are limited to certain tasks? Sure you can run word/excel when office 2020 comes out but you will be in disappointment for the next 8 years because you couldn't play battlefield 8. amirite?

WOOT needs to step their game up and make this a real deal. If this was $400-$500 range then it would be a deal.

I don't get it. Mortimer says he needs a new hard drive and yet there is no hard drives available. Just this silly HP pavilion

GRRRR.

adamchatfield wrote:I like it other than the fact that it has Intel HD graphics, which means this laptop would never be able to run games smoothly (although it's good for everything else.)

Also note that Intel HD 2000/3000 Integrated Graphics drivers do not currently support copy protected H.264 cable video feeds. Currently only Cox is distributing H.264, but others could follow. If an intended use was as a Windows Media Center with a network CableCARD Tuner, none of the MPEG4, H.264 channels would be displayed.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1392677/coxs-new-mpeg-4-h-264-channels-intel-video-2000-ceton-black-screen

http://communities.intel.com/thread/29396

...i've got nothing to add either way on this one, but has there been a woot-off here since the 'change'?

...where, please...

nicklcarey wrote:NOT a good deal. I bought a DV7-7000 quad edition with newest ivy bridge processor, 2gb video card, back lit keyboard, 1080 screen, and blu ray player for around $1060 a few weeks ago. Specs below....

**also note it has a faster hard drive and warranty.


HP Pavilion dv7t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC
• Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• System Recovery DVD with Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• 3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM Processor (2.3 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
• NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GT 650M Graphics with 2GB GDDR5 memory [HDMI, VGA]
• FREE UPGRADE to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• 750GB 7200 rpm Hybrid Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
• NO mSSD Hard Drive Acceleration Cache
• Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
• No additional security software
• 30% off 9 cell Lithium Ion Battery • 17.3-inch diagonal Full HD Anti-glare LED-backlit Display (1920 x 1080)
• FREE Upgrade to Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
• HP TrueVision HD Webcam • Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
• Backlit Keyboard
• Included 2 Year Warranty
• HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

chefalexander wrote:...where, please...

I got this strait from hp.com with a 33% coupon (recently expired). If you wait there are deals in every price range. My whole point is this is not a deal. Look else where IMO.

In the next few months the back to school laptops will be selling like crab cakes and I'm sure you can get in on one of those deals sub $600. You want something more high end, wait on coupons and order one new. I've spent the last few months looking for a laptop with a decent video card and a decent processor for around $500 (they don't seem to exist). My only option was to order one new.

enriquei wrote:That and it's a 2nd generation i7. I believe you can find 3rd generation i7s on HP's website for around $900.

Link it up sonny.

I have got the slightly earlier dv7 model. I had power supply problems after 18 months and heat problems after that. HP seems to make things that last about 2 years. If that is enough for you to feel like it is a value, go ahead, but the product is not well manufactured.

fatdragon wrote:You can typically change the basic numlock setting in the bios. Also, many people assume that, because the computer has xGB of RAM and runs fast, it will be even faster with 2xGB of RAM. For video editing, you may actually be able to utilize more than 8GB, but if you haven't been monitoring your RAM usage with Task Manager or a third-party app or desktop gadget, you might find that you're never even coming close to full utilization with your current usage, which would mean that more RAM wouldn't really make a difference.

I'm also a bit confused about your portability comments. How do cooling features make the computer more portable? A 17.3" laptop is a big, heavy thing, and running a bit cooler doesn't really affect its portability. Good battery life is certainly a plus for portability, though.

The battery life + cooling feature = good times. Never annoying in public. The screen is less than 2 inches bigger diagonally than the shoddy regular-sucker units, so worrying about that when thinking about transporting it is pretty much like beating a dead horse in the water...
also, I DO monitor the speed of my pc in task bar, and I certainly will need the extra speed for Adobe Suite. Memory hog. Also for Avid and compatible music software for my M-Audio equipment.

As for the weight, yes it does weigh a little more, but this would only really be noticeable on long hikes or if you hate things that weigh more than 2 pounds. Negligible by comparison. It's a great-feeling laptop. Again, Buy this sucker!

laizurkainon wrote:Not much of a gamer, but it would be an awesome office or entertainment laptop.

Well, if you're looking for something that can run WoW, then sure, but forget Skyrim.

That's what gets me though. Why do you need an i7 for office or to watch videos? There have been 17" quad core AMD Llano based laptops that will FEEL just as fast as an i7 with typical usage AND offer the option of actually playing a game if you wanted to. i7/i5s just don't make much sense to me outside of high end laptops with discrete graphics cards. Chances are, if you're going to need the power of an i7, you're also going to need the option of high end graphics.

I have to agree with the Not A Deal comments. For slightly more you could just buy a new (not refurb) Dell Inspiron 17R with a bigger hard drive and a dedicated GPU.

Ditto with buying a new HP, Lenovo, or Acer. When you drop down to refurbs, you get roughly the same price shown here.

No idea what Woot staff member thought this was a great deal, but it's a mediocre one at best. Not to mention it's overpowered for what it's useful for and underpowered for what people will want to do with it.

The screen has a tendency to start to flickering after a year or so...just letting ya know

Been usuning the 'new' Woot since the change. Still unable to easily find any information. Hard to find the blog, hard to even look at the deals. More clicks=bad programming. Mouse-over java dropdowns are a real pain in the buttocks when you browse. Kill the Beta!

Nevermind. See my latest below. Bought a better one for a very fair increase in price. If you can swing it, don't bother with this one.

fatdragon wrote:HP's DV-series is known for causing some headaches, but they're great sellers because you get a lot for your money.

The processor is faster than 95% of people will ever need in the lifetime of the machine. 8 GB of RAM is plenty for almost anyone. The battery life should be a decent four hours or so. Build quality on these machines is generally above average for consumer laptops.

However, gaming performance will suffer from the lack of a dedicated GPU, and the 1600x900 screen is nothing to write home about, unless you're writing to complain.

All-in-all, it's a decent laptop at a decent price. Shopping around could yield a more balanced machine that trades excess processor power for GPU power at the same price point, but you're probably not going to get 1080p at this price, and if you need processor power and don't really need GPU power, you'll be hard-pressed to match this deal in a DTR.

lmrobbins wrote:I'm looking to replace my laptop and will likely be using it often but really only for the internet -- browsing, watching hulu/netflix -- and for watching movies. I don't mind the size of the machine because I won't often be travelling with it.

Is this a good buy for me or is it more machine than I need?

Much more than you need

wootalyzer wrote:Wootalyzer's Pricing Post! - The price of today's woot item is saved here for future reference
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HP Pavilion 17.3" Core i7 Notebook
$599.99 + $5 Standard Shipping
Condition: Refurbished

*DISCLAIMER* Wootalyzer! is in no way affiliated with Woot!, and this post may not always be here!

I have owned 2 dv7's I wouldn't buy another.

Catch my drift?

madfire09 wrote:The screen has a tendency to start to flickering after a year or so...just letting ya know

The screen flickering slow or fast? i bought it 6 month ago, without problem right now!

After looking around, I don't feel this is a deal at all.
On hp's own site, here's the deal I found for $850. $799 using code "NBJ9867" ($450 off list), $50 tax and free shipping:

HP Pavilion dv7t Quad Edition
• Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• 3rd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3610QM Processor (2.3 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
• NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GT 630M Graphics with 1GB GDDR3 memory [HDMI, VGA]
• FREE UPGRADE to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• FREE Upgrade to 1TB 5400 rpm Hard Drive
• Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
• No additional security software
• 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery - Up to 5.75 hours of battery life +++
• 17.3-inch diagonal HD BrightView LED-backlit Display (1600 x 900)
• FREE Upgrade to Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
• HP TrueVision HD Webcam
• 802.11b/g/n WLAN
• Standard Keyboard
• Included 2 Year Warranty

So I got a newer processor, 2 years warranty, blu ray and bigger HD for an extra $250 and it's brand new from HP.
It's worth the extra $250.

nicklcarey wrote:
I still don't think you can find a reason to buy an i7 processor in a 17.3in laptop without a decent graphics card.

This processor is good but what is the point if you are limited to certain tasks? Sure you can run word/excel when office 2020 comes out but you will be in disappointment for the next 8 years because you couldn't play battlefield 8. amirite?

Lots of people can use an i7 without a super great graphics card... I just got myself a new ThinkPad X220, $1200 out the door, it has an i7 and integrated Intel Graphics... I DON'T NEED any more than that, however since I do real work on my computer the i7 does get utilized. It really depends what you do, and a lot of us don't play games on our computers.

First, a couple of things. I repair laptops for a living. I've been repairing laptops for 4 years, 3 and a half of those 4 were spent almost exclusively repairing HPs, and I still occasionally fix them.

I've repaired HPs, Gateways (Acers and Emachines), Apples, Toshibas, Sonys, and Dells (as well as Alienwares, since Dell now owns the brand.)

I've literally had my hands in thousands of laptops.

I am biased because I only see laptops that aren't working.

However, HP, out of all the brands, is by far one of the worst. The dv7 line is plagued with some of the most awful problems.

All laptops have issues, they are not meant to last. They expire. Some people have really good luck with HPs, some don't. You may buy one and it may last you ten years, it may last you ten days.

I'm not telling anyone to not buy this. There are some things you need to remember.

- The brushed aluminum casing looks nice, but it's like buying a car that's painted black or white. Every single scratch, dent and piece of dust will show. If you drop it, it will dent very easily. I've seen plastic casing take a lot more abuse than any of HPs newer units with brushed aluminum cases.
- These particular models have several specific issues that span across the different versions that have been released (because even with different CPUs, they generally use all the same type of parts other than that.)
- - One being a lid switch that is part of the power circuit that has a tendency to short out, causing the entire thing not to power.
- - Another is the way the LCD cable is positioned as well as the length of it causes the webcam cable (which is part of the LCD cable) to pull out of the webcam.
- - Also, I've seen several of these units come in where the tiny wires that come off the LCD cable that power the backlit logo on the casing catch fire, and destroy the cable, and usually take the LCD and motherboard with it as well.
- - This unit has a speaker bar (across the top of the palm rest), two speakers in the front, and a subwoofer located in the top right corner. Because of this there is a crazy nest of wires in the bottomcase that are ran through and under plastics that have a tendency to already be crimped coming from the MFR and cause sound issues.
- - The access panel door on the bottom has no screws in it and is released as part of the battery latch and is very easily broken (as in when the battery is out you push the latch the other way to release the door.)
- - As some of have already noted, this is a large laptop and it is very heavy as far as laptops go.

Again, I'm not telling anyone to not buy this. If it has all the things you want and need, it may end up being the best laptop ever. I don't buy laptops, and don't intend on owning any unless I honestly need one for travel, or work, et cetera.

You may get this and it may be perfect, just be warned of it's inherent defects caused by poor design/parts.

I'm disappointed in you all. I thought certainly someone would've catalogued examples of the items listed in the write-up by now!

jerryb2339 wrote:Much more than you need

I have the same basic laptop, but I find that for your use, a touchscreen HP is probably better. My touchscreen has a HD screen, and because the processor is behind the screen, it is easier to move the few times I have to take the computer to a client. The difference in screen size alone make the touchscreen my favorite computer, and my touchscreen is only 20", because I have had it for more than two years. The best part of touchscreen is it makes it much easier to install the new windows, which is touchscreen based.

hilbertglm wrote:I have got the slightly earlier dv7 model. I had power supply problems after 18 months and heat problems after that. HP seems to make things that last about 2 years. If that is enough for you to feel like it is a value, go ahead, but the product is not well manufactured.

Maybe you should clean the dust bunnies and not put it on a padded surface? All laptops will overheat if you do that. Just sayin. We've purchased Sony's and HP's and the HP's work harder than a horse and far outshine the Sony's.

ckeilah wrote:... HP makes good stuff.

Really? After they bought Compaq in 2002, HP's quality suffered greatly. So last time I shopped for a laptop, word was that HPs were bottom tier -- sort of the Presario of the laptop world. Have they improved lately?

Something I occasionally see mentioned here when an HP Pavilion shows up, and it is worth repeating. HP makes two kinds of PCs/laptops: Business-class (HP) and consumer-class (HP Pavilion). There is a BIG difference between the two! HP business-class laptops generally have similar specs (they have different model names, but you'll usually find one with the same or similar specs for each class), they are built to be much more rugged, they are built to be more serviceable (so I.T. departments can maintain and fix them), and they are generally more expensive. The consumer-class "Pavilion" laptops are much less expensive to manufacture and are considered more of a commodity unit. If this were an HP business laptop with these specs and this price, it would be a great deal. For this? Not so much.

adamchatfield wrote:I like it other than the fact that it has Intel HD graphics, which means this laptop would never be able to run games smoothly (although it's good for everything else.)

Benchmark Comparison of the Intel HD 3000