mraines517 wrote:I will tell you why. I bought one last time Woot had them to replace my iPod Touch. I can load all my music, small enough use it in my car and play .flac formats, something iPod's can't do. Also, this device runs Android. Something else the iPod can't do. And excellent battery life.

Hence the unending wonder at why people flock to Apple when they deliberately cripple the experience their devices can deliver.

I'm so for Android, my TMobile hotspot on my phone (for which I am charged nothing extra) is called "Alien Autopsy".

I purchased one of these back in November when they first hit the local market. It's sitting right next to me as I write this. It follows me everywhere. It has become an essential part of everything I do and everywhere I go. I don't even keep a cellphone anymore - with Skype, I have phone service and with HeyWire I have texting anywhere WiFi is available.

If I could change one thing about it, it'd be nice if it had 1gb of RAM instead of 512mb.

Things I use it for:

Netflix/SnagFilms
Podcasting
Personally encoded videos (DivX and MP4)
Music (Spotify)
Radio (TuneIn/StreamFurious)
Texting
Phone Calls/Voice Chat
Fitness recordkeeping
Personal bookkeeping
Creative writing/journaling
Twitter
Photography
GPS (using Sygic)
Photography
Recording (using Hi-Q MP3 Recorder)

I should know about this but have to ask -
This has GPS and WIFI, so I can use this on a run with my fitness app (endomondo) and it will track me? I understand it won't show me a map while I run (unless downloaded), and won't upload to the interweb until it's on wifi, but, do these work like that?
If so I would rather use (and risk damaging) this 5" device instead of my Galaxy SII.

Spectre7 wrote:Bought one of these when they were offered last September and I've been quite pleased with it. ....

5" LCD screen (Nice quality. Good and bright when cranked up. Low pixel density, but good color reproduction.)
Capacitive Multi-touch
1GHz Samsung Hummingbird CPU / PowerVR SGX-540 GPU
512MB RAM
8GB internal storage, with MicroSD slot supporting up to 32GB more.
Wifi 802.11 b/g/n
MicroUSB connector (Yay!)
Speakers, Front and Rear Cameras (rear has flash), Microphone, GPS, Digital Compass, Radio (only works when headphones are attached).
2500mAH battery ....

Got the same one from WOOT in September as well. Has and still is serving me well. I use it to watch movies, read the news on my morning and afternoon public transportation commutes, and get my office emails during the day w/o having to carry around a crackberry. Fits in my Dockers front pocket w/o a problem. By today's standards, it is old technology, after all, its almost a year old.

This is barely bigger than a phone. If you have a phone that can watch movies, play music, read books, and surf the internet, what's the point of this?

5.0 inch screen with the same resolution as a 4" phone = Bigger screen, crappier picture.

It has a 3 megapixel camera, forget the fact that most phones have 5 or 8 megapixel cameras now.

This device does a lot of things. It just doesn't do any of them better than the phone in your pocket.

spikedknight wrote:I should know about this but have to ask -
This has GPS and WIFI, so I can use this on a run with my fitness app (endomondo) and it will track me? I understand it won't show me a map while I run (unless downloaded), and won't upload to the interweb until it's on wifi, but, do these work like that?
If so I would rather use (and risk damaging) this 5" device instead of my Galaxy SII.

I've not used it that way, but yes, it has a GPS, and Google Maps does work on it. I understand you can now download a small map from Google? If this is true, it might work that way?

Instamapper GPS Tracker. if you want online. I'm not sure about endomondo - if it is compatible it should work.

mapdroyd has offline maps so you don't need a connection but it doesn't do routing AFAIK, though the navigation app seems fairly good at caching so if you set it up near wifi it seems to work, though you won't get things like traffic.

spikedknight wrote:I should know about this but have to ask -
This has GPS and WIFI, so I can use this on a run with my fitness app (endomondo) and it will track me? I understand it won't show me a map while I run (unless downloaded), and won't upload to the interweb until it's on wifi, but, do these work like that?
If so I would rather use (and risk damaging) this 5" device instead of my Galaxy SII.

I have a phone I use as a phone. It has some kind of web I don't use, but it is simple and just works and has long battery life especially with an extended battery. I don't do apps on it. It takes 5 seconds to turn on.

If you already have a superphone, this probably isn't useful. But Verizon and Sprint don't do data and voice at the same time (<4G), so I have a Mifi and this really good as a phone phone. And I can use this or my tablet to look things up while I talk on the phone.

leftturney wrote:This is barely bigger than a phone. If you have a phone that can watch movies, play music, read books, and surf the internet, what's the point of this?

5.0 inch screen with the same resolution as a 4" phone = Bigger screen, crappier picture.

It has a 3 megapixel camera, forget the fact that most phones have 5 or 8 megapixel cameras now.

This device does a lot of things. It just doesn't do any of them better than the phone in your pocket.

I bought my wife and myself one of these from people reselling them on eBay that bought them from Woot last year. I remember Woot had them for sale on a Sunday morning and they sold out before I decided to buy. I'm happy with mine. I like that it fits in my pocket. I carry it in a hardrive case (Case Logic QHDC-101) with my Verizon hotspot, earbuds and FiiO E11 amp. My wife doesn't use her's as much now, since she bought a smartphone, but the screen on the Samsung is way bigger than her phone screen. One of the good things about this model over the one I have is I think you can replace the battery yourself. I buy refurb stuff all the time, and the only thing I ever had to send back was the Cuisinart ice cream maker I bought from Woot. A new item can be a lemon, so I think a refub is a good way to save money if the company really checked it over.

This better not sell out before I can get home to purchase. My bike computer has been crapping out and $150 for a GPS unit will rock once I find a good bike mount. Friend has been using a similar Android based device with GPS and it works great for tracking rides (and runs too).

Samsung Electronics has demonstrated lousy product support in my experience. As soon as Samsung releases version n+1 of anything, they hastily stop supporting version n. No firmware or OS updates, not even fixes for well documented bugs.

Keep that in mind when buying Samsung products.

looks like a galaxy note

It comes with a headset, at least a pair of earbuds with mic.

Personally I like the ety.com - the only noise cancelling hardwired mic I know of and it works well. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0080FK45I

CowboyDann wrote:If you were thinking of using this as a phone you might want to think again. It does have Google Voice but It seems like you might need some extras for great call quality.


Here is a video demonstration with a 7" tablet. Unfortunately the Call quality is marginal without a headset.

If you wanted to use a headset You could use something like this And hook up your regular headset.

jkaleda wrote: My bike computer has been crapping out and $150 for a GPS unit will rock once I find a good bike mount. (and runs too).

I don't know if google fixed the compass in gingerbread. If they did then you only have to worry about WiFi coverage where you ride.
This device caches map sections, but without connection to the Google server you can't look up directions.
For offline navigation you need a third party app.

Don't buy anything from woot. they will send you the wrong product and will never get back to you resolve the issue. 4days and counting.

DCAMPDR wrote:Don't buy anything from woot. they will send you the wrong product and will never get back to you resolve the issue. 4days and counting.

Really? That's not my experience. And 4 days, are you kidding?

How are you trying to contact them?

shaun40555 wrote:I had one of 4 inch but returned it. It was super buggy, interent connection kept dropping all time time. I have an android phone and it works fine but as a music player or podcast device, which I primarily used this for it lacked a lot. Downloads always timed out. Also if you are like me and listen to audiobooks not bought through audible then the lack of an advanced file management system like Itunes is a minus. Also the GPS is wifi based so if you don' t have a wifi connection it won't work. The radio was a nice feature and the phones are pretty good. These devices were so unpopular the hacking community isn't nearly as robous as it is with other devices.

I'm surprised you didn't explore the GPS capabilities a little further. I have a 7" tab and it's too big to mount to my motorcycle for GPS but this SGP5 is perfect. It's the maps that make so many people think that they need a cellular connection to navigate. (Think about it, stand alone GPS devices don't need a cellular connection.) So I bought the North America maps from Sygic and now I have a great turn by turn GPS system. If I want to get really fancy, I can use my $25/month Virgin Mobile phone as a hotspot to get a cellular link.

I'm hoping that this device will eventually replace my VM Optimus V and I can ditch the $25/month contract.

IMHO, these devices sell because they cut the cord on cellular contracts while offering the full functionality of a smartphone sans cellular.

OS SchmoS, I could care less if it isn't running Honeycomb, ICS, or Jelly Bean. The OS works and the 1gz processor cranks through tasks plenty fast.

I wish I'd seen this price on the refurbished SGP5 before I bought at a major electronics reseller. I've noticed that prices fluctuate regularly, the price I paid dropped $10 about a week after I bought it and are now back up to $220, or $20 more than I paid. For a product that supposedly has little consumer interest, it sure shows the appearance of being in demand.

DCAMPDR wrote:Don't buy anything from woot. they will send you the wrong product and will never get back to you resolve the issue. 4days and counting.

Generally they will respond within a business day. However, with the woot-off and various outages last week, they are currently swamped with email so it's taking a bit longer.

If you just emailed, please be patient.

If you emailed last week, go ahead and send another email.

Also, be sure to check your spam/junk folders for a reply.

Being "stuck" on Gingerbread isn't really a problem, because even last week's upgrades to Google apps work fine on Gingerbread. (I know from my own experience.) Most Android devices are still using Gingerbread and it's going to be well supported for the forseeable future, and you'll still get all the other updated software.

Also keep in mind that if any of your A/V equipment has Android remote apps, this is perfect for that.

Am I the only one who thought "this iPod touch looks funny" when first glancing at today's woot?

Great little tablet. Does everything I need. I use it connected to my car radio. I love its portability. It goes everywhere with me.

inkycatz wrote:Generally they will respond within a business day. However, with the woot-off and various outages last week, they are currently swamped with email so it's taking a bit longer.

If you just emailed, please be patient.

If you emailed last week, go ahead and send another email.

Also, be sure to check your spam/junk folders for a reply.

I liked your old avatar better. This one for some reason or another, just doesn't catch my eye.

But, hey, I'll get used to it!

edit: I got it! Your old avatar seemed so much friendlier.

DCAMPDR wrote:Don't buy anything from woot. they will send you the wrong product and will never get back to you resolve the issue. 4days and counting.

I think that's just what you should do. Go somewhere else.

Honestly, having owned (then sold; Android 2.2/2.3 just didn't cut it) this device, I would definitely buy another one if Samsung released an updated version w/at least a Tegra 2 & ICS. The problem with this was that even at the time of release, it was already sporting outdated specs. The 7 & 10 inch tablets had already been on the market by then and had better tech. This was released in September of last year. Just a month later Samsung released the Tab 7.0 Plus sporting a Tegra 2, Dual Core 1.2GHz CPU & 16GB of storage, running Android 3.2 (currently updated to ICS). Having said that though, I did enjoy using it for a time. Great with WiFi. I used it for basically everything, but music. The ability to load .apk files onto the removable microSD card meant access to tons of apps for free (assuming they supported Gingerbread or lower).

I have a spanish credit card (emitted in Spain) I am living in USA, but Woot don't accept my card to buy it and can't find information about this

editorkid wrote:Being "stuck" on Gingerbread isn't really a problem, because even last week's upgrades to Google apps work fine on Gingerbread. (I know from my own experience.) Most Android devices are still using Gingerbread and it's going to be well supported for the forseeable future, and you'll still get all the other updated software.

Also keep in mind that if any of your A/V equipment has Android remote apps, this is perfect for that.

I totally agree. Gingerbread is like the windows-xp of Android. It's stable, well tested, fully functional. It works with a wide variety of hardware, and if not all, a vast majority of the programs still support it fully. I have an HTC Rezound still using gingerbread, and between gingerbread and the HTC interface for the Rezound there is really nothing I am missing. For a tablet its a different story, but a 5" device is more similar to a smartphone in functionality.

But can you make phone calls on it?

omh1009 wrote:I don't know if google fixed the compass in gingerbread. If they did then you only have to worry about WiFi coverage where you ride.
This device caches map sections, but without connection to the Google server you can't look up directions.
For offline navigation you need a third party app.

I don't have to know where I'm going, I just have to know where I've been. I've been carrying my Xoom in a backpack lately. Not helpful when trying to get current speed while heading downhill. Nice to know afterward I maxed at 45.4mph though.

jusdef wrote:ThATS $200 w/ a two year contract.

No, the Nexus 7 is $200 with no contract. It's WiFi only, same as this thing.

aknox077 wrote:But can you make phone calls on it?

http://liliputing.com/2011/10/samsung-galaxy-player-5-inch-mini-tablet-now-available-for-270.html

has a built-in mic and stereo speakers, so you can use an internet telephony app such as Skype to make voice or video calls — but you can’t hold the device up to your ear and expect to hold a private conversation. Media player speakers basically act like they’re on speakerphone all the time.

omh1009 wrote:I don't know if google fixed the compass in gingerbread. If they did then you only have to worry about WiFi coverage where you ride.
This device caches map sections, but without connection to the Google server you can't look up directions.
For offline navigation you need a third party app.

Google maps was recently updated to allow offline navigation, at least it does on my phone now.

omh1009 wrote:I don't know if google fixed the compass in gingerbread. If they did then you only have to worry about WiFi coverage where you ride.
This device caches map sections, but without connection to the Google server you can't look up directions.
For offline navigation you need a third party app.

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/top-3-free-offline-gps-apps-android/


Google Maps has built-in support for offline maps. This feature lets you download a map area to your Android, so you can view it without a data connection. This sounds very convenient, but there are two big problems:
Only map tiles are downloaded. You can’t search for points of interest or get navigation directions offline.
Maps are automatically deleted after 30 days. There’s no warning and no way to change this behavior. If you depend on your map, you might find it has disappeared when you need it most.
I’ve also found that maps sometimes disappear at other times — perhaps when the Google Maps app gets updated. I can’t pin the exact cause down, but a quick Google search reveals other users are also having problems. It is a “labs” feature, after all.
To enable this feature, launch Google Maps, go into its Settings screen and tap Labs. On the Labs screen, enable the “Pre-cache map area” lab.

gak0090 wrote:http://liliputing.com/2011/10/samsung-galaxy-player-5-inch-mini-tablet-now-available-for-270.html

has a built-in mic and stereo speakers, so you can use an internet telephony app such as Skype to make voice or video calls — but you can’t hold the device up to your ear and expect to hold a private conversation. Media player speakers basically act like they’re on speakerphone all the time.

I just use earbuds for privacy when using textfree or skype to make wifi phone calls on my ipod touch.

spikedknight wrote:I should know about this but have to ask -
This has GPS and WIFI, so I can use this on a run with my fitness app (endomondo) and it will track me? I understand it won't show me a map while I run (unless downloaded), and won't upload to the interweb until it's on wifi, but, do these work like that?
If so I would rather use (and risk damaging) this 5" device instead of my Galaxy SII.

It works great. I use mine with Endomondo for hiking and biking, and have been totally pleased with the results. Latest ride is usually uploaded by the time I get in the front door.

escalante wrote:I just use earbuds for privacy when using textfree or skype to make wifi phone calls on my ipod touch.

You could probably bluetooth it also, if you planned on using it this way a lot,but then you have to deal with the bluetooth tool stigma.

Out of date OS Google’s Android 2.3.5 platform


Better off with device running Ice Cream Sandwich - 4.0

jorgemota wrote:I have a spanish credit card (emitted in Spain) I am living in USA, but Woot don't accept my card to buy it and can't find information about this

Do you have a paypal account? You can use that. If you don't have one, maybe try making a paypal account?....I'm guessing (not certain) that paypal would let you link that credit card to it, and then you could use the paypal to order from woot. If that doesn't work, maybe you could send cash to Woot via carrier pigeon. (J/K about the last part, of course...hope the paypal option will work for you.)

mraines517 wrote:I will tell you why. I bought one last time Woot had them to replace my iPod Touch. I can load all my music, small enough use it in my car and play .flac formats, something iPod's can't do. Also, this device runs Android. Something else the iPod can't do. And excellent battery life.

For the record, all ipods support Apple Lossless (ALAC), which is similar to FLAC in that it doesn't reduce the quality of the original audio. Why do they use ALAC instead of FLAC? ALAC is a simpler compression format that's needs less processing power to play on older iPods and nanos. You can transcode from FLAC to ALAC with no loss in quality (that's the point of lossless).

Now, having to use iTunes to sync.. that's a valid criticism.

snsh wrote:Samsung Electronics has demonstrated lousy product support in my experience. As soon as Samsung releases version n+1 of anything, they hastily stop supporting version n. No firmware or OS updates, not even fixes for well documented bugs.

Keep that in mind when buying Samsung products.

Very true, but they're getting better. The moment and intercept never got updated past 2.1 (and took forever to get that far compared to the Hero), the Epic took just as long to get a 2.2 update, then a 2.3 update.. and the ridiculously named Samsung Galaxy S2 Epic 4G Touch (SGS2E4GT for short, which rolls off the tongue) still doesn't have an official 4.0 update, though one has leaked.

cowboyesfan wrote:Refurbished means it was broken.

That's a myth. If it was returned for ANY reason it gets refurbished. Also since it has been refurbished by the manufacturer it's unlikely to have further problems. Your brand new item that you have so much faith in is "untested" and could easily have bugs. If it's refurbished by a third party or private party it might be sketchy.