casey00001 wrote:This is a little pricey...

Target, $70 w/ FS
http://www.target.com/p/pyrex-easy-grab-17pc-bake-n-store-set/-/A-13198881

Amazon, 17pc for $65 w/ FS
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0089VI4IC

Then there's the funny places, like "The best online shoe store"
http://www.shoesonsaleforkids.com/pyrex-easy-grab-17pc-bake-n-store-set-p77219-7.html
$53.44 w/ FS
(looks entirely trustworthy...)

So, not many other places popping up in a quick google shopping search, but seems like this would get you $20-25 off after shipping, ignoring the questionable result, and no need to wait for November.

njank wrote:Target, $70 w/ FS
http://www.target.com/p/pyrex-easy-grab-17pc-bake-n-store-set/-/A-13198881

Amazon, 17pc for $65 w/ FS
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0089VI4IC

Then there's the funny places, like "The best online shoe store"
http://www.shoesonsaleforkids.com/pyrex-easy-grab-17pc-bake-n-store-set-p77219-7.html
$53.44 w/ FS
(looks entirely trustworthy...)

So, not many other places popping up in a quick google shopping search, but seems like this would get you $20-25 off after shipping, ignoring the questionable result, and no need to wait for November.

Thank you for doing the research.

lstaff wrote:It's glass, so chemical free. It's glass, so it's microwaveable. It's glass, so it's freezable. It's glass, so it's attractive on a table. It's glass, so you can pour hot stuff in it. It's glass, so it doesn't stain. It's glass, so it doesn't puck up odors. And it's Pyrex glass, so it doesn't break.

Today's Pyrex isn't the Pyrex of old.

If you want quality of the original, look into European glassware where they still use borosilicate glass. There are many reports of soda lime glass exploding, many with serious injuries.

Spend a little time with google. Even Consumer Reports got heavily involved.

colleenkulesza wrote:Actually - this is a common urban myth. Go to Snopes to read about the real story about the Pyrex dishes. http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/pyrex.asp

Snopes is okay as a first stop but there is a lot of better information on the subject... try Consumer Reports... they test independently, not just google like snopes.

ThunderThighs wrote:If you have any problems with an item not arriving in the condition it's supposed to (i.e. no shards), email service@woot.com and they'll help you out. How it's handled often depends on whether we have remaining stock on hand.

We have WONDERFUL customer service people. They deserve hugs.

uh, no you don't. Although I love Woot, dealing with something that is DOA is a PITA. Woot CS is useless - "Contact the manufacturer for warranty support" - eh, ok, thanks for nothing. If it works out ok you get a good deal, otherwise, TS from woot CS. No hugs from me

thomas998 wrote:Was perfect. They went to a cheaper recipe for the glass and it sucks. The last time I used this newer version the glass shattered and my lasagna was spread all over the inside of my oven. I wouldn't recommend this to anyone that was planning on using it for hot dishes. Maybe for jello but nothing else.

I will never use it again for Jello. When my husband had his wisdom teeth taken out, being the nice wife that I am, I decided to make him some cherry Jello. As I was stirring the hot water and jello mix in my 2-cup Pyrex measuring cup, it shattered everywhere, getting glass and red Jello all over everything. I had been making Jello this way for years before this happened, but I will never do it again.

I picked up a similar set from Woot several months ago, and the stuff is amazing! I haven't experienced any spontaneous glass explosions like some others here, but then again I also follow the instructions on proper usage ;)

An interesting fact: The mixing bowls with lids will stack together WITH their lids on. It's a tight fit, but it will work. This is absolutely necessary because otherwise they'd take up way too much space!

jimmydaddyo wrote:uh, no you don't. Although I love Woot, dealing with something that is DOA is a PITA. Woot CS is useless - "Contact the manufacturer for warranty support" - eh, ok, thanks for nothing. If it works out ok you get a good deal, otherwise, TS from woot CS. No hugs from me

You have clearly never actually contacted their CS department. On the couple things I got that were DOA, I ignored the "Contact the manufacturer" and actually contacted woot, and they sent a replacement, no questions asked. Easily the best/easiest customer support I've ever experienced. No hassle on my end except waiting on a replacement.

simple guide: "PYREX" (all-caps) is borosilicate (the good stuff); "pyrex" (all-lowercase) is soda-lime (shatters when heat-shocked).

The picture is of a "pyrex" measuring cup... very likely "pyrex" baking dishes as well.

bought this for the wife the other day as an amazon deal of the day..for cheaper & prime shipping. no thanks

I've been missing my 2-cup measuring cup for such a long time! My 4-cup and 1-cup measuring cups will be reunited with their long lost companion once again! Oh and the other 16pcs look neat too. Woot!

dh4645 wrote:bought this for the wife the other day as an amazon deal of the day..for cheaper & prime shipping. no thanks

The picture of the set from Amazon doesn't have handles on the square and oblong dishes. So these may actually be 2 different sets.

Got a similar set at Target a month or so ago. I havent used the large baking dish yet but the other items are great. I really like the handles and the lids for the larger dishes. It makes putting the leftovers away a breeze.

In my opinion these are great and I've never known anyone personally that a pyrex dish has exploded on. I think you have have to put it directly on the stove top on max heat and then stick it in the freezer for that to happen. Under normal use I don't think anyone will ever ever have a problem.

meadowlark wrote:Just wait until it explodes in your kitchen and you will try to find this discussion again.

I have been cooking with pyrex, both older and newer pieces for the last 30 years and have never (knock on wood) had one explode.

aggiechick wrote:I will never use it again for Jello. When my husband had his wisdom teeth taken out, being the nice wife that I am, I decided to make him some cherry Jello. As I was stirring the hot water and jello mix in my 2-cup Pyrex measuring cup, it shattered everywhere, getting glass and red Jello all over everything. I had been making Jello this way for years before this happened, but I will never do it again.

It didn't smash because of the hot water, it smashed because of the chemical reaction of putting the jello (not sugar free) in the hot water. Water does explode!

I just recently purchased one off of Amazon lightning deals for 34.99. Very nice set and a perfect gift for anybody obsessed with the kitchen.

Make your Pyrex bowls disappear! Try this for a good party trick.

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/content/kitchenscience/exp/making-pyrex-invisible/

Scooley01 wrote:You have clearly never actually contacted their CS department. On the couple things I got that were DOA, I ignored the "Contact the manufacturer" and actually contacted woot, and they sent a replacement, no questions asked. Easily the best/easiest customer support I've ever experienced. No hassle on my end except waiting on a replacement.

sorry, are you calling me a liar - do you want the email? if you don't know what you are talking about please just keep it to yourself



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thebesthereis wrote:What I'd like to know from the well informed - is it worth the price for the items? I rarely cook but I don't own any glass bake ware type of items. PLUS, I'd really like to be able to heat food up in (in the microwave) something that will not stain or transfer food flavors to.

I have been cooking/baking for many years, and I love this stuff! I have never had any break on me, ever.

I take care of it and follow the directions. I have Pyrex from my mother and many pieces that I have bought over the years, even the last set on Woot. I am 48 years old, so I must be doing something right.

This is a good deal, even if you bought it for a Christmas gift (which I did) or even if you split it up to others that need certain pieces.

HTH!

ThunderThighs wrote:If you have any problems with an item not arriving in the condition it's supposed to (i.e. no shards), email service@woot.com and they'll help you out. How it's handled often depends on whether we have remaining stock on hand.

We have WONDERFUL customer service people. They deserve hugs.

I will say, that WOOT customer service has ALWAYS been amazing with me. Not that I have had to contact them often, but when I did, they were ALWAYS there.

And have ALWAYS done right by me.

Thus why I love my WOOT!

And this was my 101 purchase! Dang it, I missed my 100th! lol

[quote}...I haven't experienced any spontaneous glass explosions like some others here, but then again I also follow the instructions on proper usage [/quote]

What many of you here do not understand (and I must say are exhibiting a somewhat "better than thou" attitude) is that the Pyrex will explode even when all the instructions are followed to the exact letter - no thermal shock introduced, no wet surfaces, nothing. That fact will apparently not soak into the minds of some who seem to sanctimoniously think Pyrex is holy. It does explode occasionally when handled correctly, resulting in many servere injuries. The biggest problem is that it does not do it consistently enough to be removed from the market. Probably less than 1% of users (I'm guessing) are being injured, so it continues to be sold.

Same story with Corelle. Until you have it explode while sitting in the cabinet (having not been touched for a week), you will not believe.

ViolaineGray wrote:

The older formula was not that fragile the old formula is available from a factory in Europe.

This was an Amazon Lightening deal last week for $34.99 plus free shipping if you were a prime member.

I received my order yesterday. Really great kit!! even for $5 more it is worth the price.

Pyrex has not been made from borosilicate glass since 1998, after that point they have been made from soda-lime

donaldktsang wrote:simple guide: "PYREX" (all-caps) is borosilicate (the good stuff); "pyrex" (all-lowercase) is soda-lime (shatters when heat-shocked).

The picture is of a "pyrex" measuring cup... very likely "pyrex" baking dishes as well.

Good god I wish people would read a thread, or do some research, OR JUST FREAKING GOOGLE SOMETHING before posting stories about how pyrex explodes now that they changed the recipe a few years ago, or however long you think it was.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=snopes+pyrex

Consumer Reports seemed to try some testing that was outside the handling rules issued by Pyrex makers and seemed to show a definite difference. The Snopes articles also quoted an employee who said his plant was using borosilicate until 1987 so it's not entirely true the formula was switched everywhere 60 years ago. Corning is trying to build confidence but the internet provides an easy medium for people who've had a surprisingly bad experience to share their stories. It doesn't help when some pepper their stories with inaccuracies about things being made in China but who knows, that could happen any day too.

Corning should do what Domino's did since they have a growing reputation problem. They should just say our recipe sucks. Then manufacture it with the borosilicate like they do in the Europe made Pyrix since competitors are starting to hone in on their business over the issue.

colleenkulesza wrote:Actually they started using the soda lime glass in the 40s before Corning sold them. This whole story about them being suddenly inferior is an urban myth.
http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/pyrex.asp

Except that even the content on Snopes states that the assertions about when the switch from borosilicate to soda lime occurred are inconclusive. There are several references in the full text of the Snopes article, one of which is from one of Corning's executive scientists, who asserts that when he retired in 1987, borosilicate was still used. Another statement asserts that Corning used both borosilicate and soda lime throughout their ownership of the process. Still another asserts that the switch occurred in the 1980s. Nobody, it seems, can state with certainty when the switch from borosilicate to soda lime occurred, nor to what degree.

gbinman wrote:Snopes is okay as a first stop but there is a lot of better information on the subject... try Consumer Reports... they test independently, not just google like snopes.

Um, the Snopes article specifically quotes the Consumer Reports research throughout the article, as well as linking to it, along with numerous other sources. Prolly not a good idea to dismiss something you didn't bother to read.

ALL GLASS IS VULNERABLE TO BREAKAGE, PARTICULARLY DUE TO THERMAL SHOCK.

colleenkulesza wrote:Actually - this is a common urban myth. Go to Snopes to read about the real story about the Pyrex dishes. http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/pyrex.asp

It's not entirely an urban myth. Even the Snopes information states that testing (albeit testing outside the recommended use parameters) did produce evidence that borosilicate glass was less prone to thermal shock breakage than soda lime glass. Both, however, can break due to thermal shock or other abuse.

meadowlark wrote:Agreed that Snopes is not perfect. There are numerous personal reports online, involving people properly using the product, only to have it explode violently and injure them, even as far as across the room.

Except that most of the people discussing the Snopes article don't seem to have read the whole thing and are making incorrect statements about what it says (or doesn't say). It's actually a solidly-researched and referenced article. Folks should read it.

jedinc wrote:I have a set similar to this for years - no broiler or open burner. Freezer, refrigerator, micro-wave, and bottom-shelf dish-diswasher safe. REPEAT, NO OPEN FLAME!

I WOULD BUY THIS IF I DID NOT HAVE TO BUY THE SMALL CONTAINERS.

I would buy this if it was only the small containers, since I already have the larger stuff. Wanna split a set?

jlikesilver wrote:Uh...Steve, ever think your delivery person might be the problem?

Nope, my long-time mailman just said, you've got a box-o-rox. Sounds like broken glass, which it is.

Kevin, my "delivery person," just got handed a box-o-rox!

And, if it wasn't packed in "retail" boxes, he wouldn't have gotten those "box-of-rox"s

steve

AgirlinVT wrote:America's Test kitchen rates the pyrex pie plate the best, year after year.

But not THIS Pyrex pie plate!

I'm an ATK menber, too.

steve+

Just got mine and by the sound of it every piece inside is shattered.

merritt77 wrote:Just got mine and by the sound of it every piece inside is shattered.

Please be careful, and contact service@woot.com!

merritt77 wrote:Just got mine and by the sound of it every piece inside is shattered.

Same here. There was absolutely no extra padding in the initial box from Amazon, just a box tossed into a box. I'm going to email service.

I also received my shipment today: I bought 3 (2 for gifting, 1 for me). As others have noted, it's pretty much the manufactuer's box inside a larger cordboard box. There was also a very small amount of shipping paper in each cardboard box, but not enough to act as a cushion (in fact, I don't know what purpose it was supposed to serve).

The cardboard boxes were moderately beat up, and 2 of the original manufactuer's boxes had some minor exterior damage as well.

HOWEVER, despite the less-than-steller packaging, there was no merchandise damage. I opened and inventoried all three boxes, and there was no glass breakage or damage of any kind.

I'm happy, but count myself lucky.

I'm glad yours arrived okay! I have yet to take the plastic wrap off the Pyrex box, but I had tiny glass shards on the table where I had pulled it out of the shipping carton and set it down, likely coming from the box's seams. I'm going to wait to hear from service before I decide to open it fully and unleash all those shards.

I haven't opened mine either- it sounds like gravel in my box...