Lassik wrote:How does this fare on games such as Minesweeper?

If this was a joke, I had a hearty chuckle.

gusvonpooch wrote:I want to meet this woman!

Go watch Princess and the Frog ;D

How does this processor compare to a 2nd generation I-5 2450m? Ive been looking for a new pc for school but was only looking at intel, not amd. This price is hard to ignore though

Intel please.

CowboyDann wrote: Here is the processor Benchmark numbers Hope it helps.

That hurls for a quad core CPU - 2409. Keep in mind that many (most) apps are single threaded and will use only one core, so you are looking at 1/4 that rating per core and app - a paltry 602 per core.

The Dell 14r I got for my son from Staples a couple of months back ($350+tax after MIR) has a dual core i3-2350M whcih rates 2943 or 1471 per core - more than double this AMD. So fewer cores but a lot more per core speed and more total speed as well.

I would pass on this...

Lassik wrote:You sure it wasn't This one? I saw this one on sale recently at my local wal-mart.

Not the exact same model, but near identical. I think you just HI-Jacked Woot's Sale!

How would this do for HD video editing?

How would this compare with the Toshiba L775D-S7340 that keeps appearing at about $450 new? Woot or some other flash site had it last week, but the sales tax was the deal breaker for me. I know the L775D-S7340 has blu-ray player and is 17", but as far as processing specs and build? The keyboard is flat w/o spaces too.

Nice deal!

Nice one!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834131257
A Nice Deal, great Laptop no matter what the Intel fanboys say : ) >

mm20 wrote:Oh look. A laptop. AGAIN.

In the last month, 6/20 - 7/19, there have been 4 laptops, 4 cameras, and 3 TVs. That is factoring out 3 days for a wootoff, which was almost nothing but laptops, cameras, and TVs (and speakers). So basically, one of these 3 products roughly 40% of the time. Is it any wonder the comments section is about 1/5th of what it used to be, and why so many long-time wooters are jumping ship? We can get this stuff anywhere and everywhere.

abramokids wrote:How would this fare for gaming? I'm looking to replace my Samsung R580.

i bought this same laptop from Staples a few months ago, and i'm loving it. it runs SWTOR at medium to medium low graphics decently (high population areas get a little hairy), F1 2010 at medium settings, and i'm currently playing Oblivion at mostly high settings. only thing i can complain about is that the battery life is fairly low (~4 hours, depending on what you're doing), the exhaust port on the left side, and left portion of the keyboard itself, can get really warm, and it has a straight in power plug (i prefer right angle).

here's the CPU-Z for it..
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2397305

In case Woot is wondering, the next 17.3-inch screen laptop with 8 gig of memory and an Intel i5 or i7 chip I see, I'm buying. Please.

Can the DVD be swapped out for a blue ray?

rwd717 wrote:Can the DVD be swapped out for a blue ray?

there's no obvious way to remove the cd drive, and the bezel is also at a 45 degree angle.. so it wouldn't work with most replacement players that i've seen.

I have owned one Samsung Laptop and it's never ran right. Pile of crap. It could be a great puter if it worked.
I should have took it back after the first round, blue screens from hell. It's been back twice before I ever got to use it.
After the second time, it ran but I put it up.
Now the thing says the the wireless if off and will not connect to my router. If I run diagnostics, it will say it turned the wireless on and then it works.
I know a different model can make a different. Just putting it out there.

cmlewis wrote:there's no obvious way to remove the cd drive, and the bezel is also at a 45 degree angle.. so it wouldn't work with most replacement players that i've seen.

Thanks!

Not sure this is a deal when you could get this from Amazon for slightly more. Amazon

dwynne wrote:That hurls for a quad core CPU - 2409. Keep in mind that many (most) apps are single threaded and will use only one core, so you are looking at 1/4 that rating per core and app - a paltry 602 per core.

The Dell 14r I got for my son from Staples a couple of months back ($350+tax after MIR) has a dual core i3-2350M whcih rates 2943 or 1471 per core - more than double this AMD. So fewer cores but a lot more per core speed and more total speed as well.

I would pass on this...

You can't divide the benchmark by the number of cores and assume that's the performance of a single core- it does not work that way. And perhaps your statement of most apps being single threaded is somewhat true, that is quickly change since most computers now are multi-core. The thing that you forgot to mention is that a PC has multiple operations going simultaneously, and the fact of more cores means better multitasking- this will have an overall performance effect on that single threaded app you are trying to run. The screen is bigger and the video processing in the 6520g video is better than the HD3000. So basically the value of this laptop compared to your Dell at the given prices is basically a wash.

CowboyDann wrote: Here is the processor Benchmark numbers Hope it helps.

[url=http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+A6-3430MX+APU]

High Mid Range CPUs - Updated 19th of July 2012[url]

At the risk of appearing really ignorant ... Are higher scores better or worse?

abramokids wrote:How would this fare for gaming? I'm looking to replace my Samsung R580.

As far as gaming, the specs aren't that great. If you're looking to play last generation games at medium settings, this is fine, but the gpu is lacking. See here for some specs: http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6520G.55734.0.html

coolhappyguy wrote:At the risk of appearing really ignorant ... Are higher scores better or worse?

Higher is better. But don't get too wrapped up in benchmarks especially when they are withing 5-10% of each other. There is a lot to consider and the benchmark that this computer has is fine for at least 98% of the people using it. There is not a whole lot of things that a processor with this benchmark can't do. Maybe if you were doing a lot of video transcoding- this would not be the processor you want simply because it would take too long- but lighter video editing would be fine with occasional transcoding. This is a pretty good deal, Samsung makes a solid product.

Rokitty wrote:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834131257
A Nice Deal, great Laptop no matter what the Intel fanboys say : ) >

I have to agree. I have had both AMD and Intel laptops as far back as 2001. I always bought AMDs for myself and work supplied the Intels.

You get the performance you pay for and, overall, the AMDs are a better bargain. As the benchmarks show, you can basically buy the power you need.

Having said that, I bought this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834215371&nm_mc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Content-_-text-_- two days ago and am awaiting delivery today.

I don't feel that I missed out on anything. Today's Woot is still a good deal.

Sure does thank you

That guy who asked about the video editing:

If you're a hobbyist (home videos) it'll do. If you're any kind of pro, I personally wouldn't trust it. That said, I have very high standards for my hardware.


In a nutshell, I'd describe it as "good enough".


A word of warning, because they exist: some of the AX-series AMD and way too many of the intel iX's claim dedicated graphics when really they're running in this lopsided crossfire configuration it ends up actually being worse than if all you had was the integrated card, somehow.

That's not the case with this model, but if you're in the market for a budget laptop with a little oomph, it'll come up at some point.

I was going to answer another poster's question, but I can't remember what it is.

wootsrus wrote:The 5400 rpm drive also gives you nearly 8 less chances per second for the heads to scratch the spinning drive platter causing possible data loss as a result of inevitable bumps or other trauma when spinning at 5400 rpm vs 7200 rpm.

The chances of the head hitting the platter when you bump the HDD should be the same between the two. The only possible reduction would go to the higher spin rate drive. HDDs spin fast to produce an air cushion that the drive head floats on due to wind shear at high speeds. This would favor a faster spinning drive, not the slower one. If you are talking a specific bit of data being impacted by a head strike against the platter then you are somewhat correct in that a bit will pass the read/write head less often in a second in the slower spinning drive. The difference is actually 30 rotations per second less for the 5400 vs. the 7200 though so you need to check your maths. This presumes a head strike and considers probability of a specific bit being impacted and must assume that the head associated with this bit and its platter is the one to strike and that the head is in the read/write zone of the bit in question. Then one needs to consider the impact force that caused the head to impact the surface, the time head is in contact with the surface and the amount the platter will turn in that period.

So, TLDR: You are wrong.

irenegade wrote:How would this compare with the Toshiba L775D-S7340 that keeps appearing at about $450 new? Woot or some other flash site had it last week, but the sales tax was the deal breaker for me. I know the L775D-S7340 has blu-ray player and is 17", but as far as processing specs and build? The keyboard is flat w/o spaces too.

It was you. There we go. The Toshiba would have a marginally shorter battery life and slightly less responsive video, because you're pushing a larger display with the same hardware.

It wouldn't be much of a difference, but that's where the difference would be.

Also, the keyboard looks like a nightmare. So there's that.

I sometimes wonder what people are expecting . . .sure I want a good deal, but I'm not looking for any "gimme" Probably someone can find a comparable laptop for a few dollars less, but can they find a few hundred like woot has done? This is a solid deal, not a dream.

Also it should be noted it is not refurbished.

AIBOT wrote:The chances of the head hitting the platter when you bump the HDD should be the same between the two. The only possible reduction would go to the higher spin rate drive. HDDs spin fast to produce an air cushion that the drive head floats on due to wind shear at high speeds. This would favor a faster spinning drive, not the slower one. If you are talking a specific bit of data being impacted by a head strike against the platter then you are somewhat correct in that a bit will pass the read/write head less often in a second in the slower spinning drive. The difference is actually 30 rotations per second less for the 5400 vs. the 7200 though so you need to check your maths. This presumes a head strike and considers probability of a specific bit being impacted and must assume that the head associated with this bit and its platter is the one to strike and that the head is in the read/write zone of the bit in question. Then one needs to consider the impact force that caused the head to impact the surface, the time head is in contact with the surface and the amount the platter will turn in that period.

So, TLDR: You are wrong.

Yeah- I agree with this. The speed has nothing to do with failure rate. The Mean time between failures (MTBF)is what you want to consider drive reliability. This is same math used by the person that divided the benchmark score by the number of cores to determine how fast it would work on single threaded applications.

This is an older version of the laptop I already own. Has almost the very same specs though.

The design of my laptop is quite a bit better, but this laptop has a normal track pad which is almost enough to make me buy it. The new models have the wannabe apple track pads and they are HORRIBLE IMO.

I had to disable all of the added gestures (Pinch Scaling - Two finger Scrolling - ETC) Because it will always think you have a different number of fingers touching than you do.

Looking to buy this for someone who would primarily use it to watch HD movies/stream them, and also use it for light web surfing. This might be a little bit overkill, but I wanted something that had pretty decent up to date specs. Would this be a good choice? I just wish it had blu ray...

How does the processor compare to Intel i7?

aghosheh wrote:How does the processor compare to Intel i7?

It compares horribly.

aghosheh wrote:How does the processor compare to Intel i7?

It depends which I7 you compare it to. Unfortunately I7 are all over the board as far as benchmarks go. For instance: the Intel Core i7 620LM @ 2.00GHz has a passmark of only 2012, Intel Core i7 640LM @ 2.13GHz 2238, the processor in this laptop AMD A6-3430MX APU is 2409.

That said, the better I7 laptop processors have a significantly higher passmark: Intel Core i7-2670QM @ 2.20GHz is 6332

So the designation of I7 does not tell you the whole picture. You need to know specifically which I7 you are comparing.

Here is a review:

kind of short & not real informative
http://modernotebook.com/samsung-np305v5a-a09us/

gak0090 wrote:It depends which I7 you compare it to. Unfortunately I7 are all over the board as far as benchmarks go. For instance: the Intel Core i7 620LM @ 2.00GHz has a passmark of only 2012, Intel Core i7 640LM @ 2.13GHz 2238, the processor in this laptop AMD A6-3430MX APU is 2409.

That said, the better I7 laptop processors have a significantly higher passmark: Intel Core i7-2670QM @ 2.20GHz is 6332

So the designation of I7 does not tell you the whole picture. You need to know specifically which I7 you are comparing.

How might this processor compare to an i3?

How about an i5?

Also, I'm a bit confused about what people think about the keyboard on this Samsung. My last laptio (a gateway, which I will never buy again) had a TERRIBLE keyboard. I would be typing things and mysterious other letters would appear...I'd be scrolling around on the mousepad and it would mysteriously click without me doing it, it would exit web pages in the middle of me typing things. Huge headaches.

So in addition to a processor that runs as smoothly as my i5, one requirement of mine is that it has a solid keyboard with separate keys, and a solid mousepad that actually behaves the way I want it to!

Any comments on my few questions? Overall this seems like a solid deal for somebody who wants an affordable laptop for basic web and desktop functionality, streaming video and audio online, etc. Not a gamers or graphic designers dream by any stretch, but a seemingly fast, functional, and well built laptop for your average everyday user.

Is that a fair assessment?

Any comparable products within this price range for the uses I outlined above?

My laptop just crashed and I need to replace it relatively quickly, but want to make sure it meets or beats what I was already used to operating with.

I'm trying not to spend more than $400-$500, so this seems like a decent bet.

unlearnyourself wrote:How might this processor compare to an i3?

How about an i5?

Also, I'm a bit confused about what people think about the keyboard on this Samsung. My last laptio (a gateway, which I will never buy again) had a TERRIBLE keyboard. I would be typing things and mysterious other letters would appear...I'd be scrolling around on the mousepad and it would mysteriously click without me doing it, it would exit web pages in the middle of me typing things. Huge headaches.

So in addition to a processor that runs as smoothly as my i5, one requirement of mine is that it has a solid keyboard with separate keys, and a solid mousepad that actually behaves the way I want it to!

Any comments on my few questions? Overall this seems like a solid deal for somebody who wants an affordable laptop for basic web and desktop functionality, streaming video and audio online, etc. Not a gamers or graphic designers dream by any stretch, but a seemingly fast, functional, and well built laptop for your average everyday user.

Is that a fair assessment?

Any comparable products within this price range for the uses I outlined above?

My laptop just crashed and I need to replace it relatively quickly, but want to make sure it meets or beats what I was already used to operating with.

I'm trying not to spend more than $400-$500, so this seems like a decent bet.

This is a good article regarding intels confusing I-mess:
http://ask-leo.com/whats_the_difference_between_i3_i5_and_i7_processors.html

To really compare, figure out which specific processor they are referring to and google its name with "passmark" after it.

Most of today's modern processors can be found in either mid-high or high end charts below (the exception being the real low-power processors)

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/mid_range_cpus.html

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

Today's laptop is a decent deal. The chicklet type keyboard is a total user preference. To me it does not make a difference unless the keyboard feels cheap (a lot of flex to it)- because I can't type worth a damn anyway.

gak0090 wrote:This is a good article regarding intels confusing I-mess:
http://ask-leo.com/whats_the_difference_between_i3_i5_and_i7_processors.html

To really compare, figure out which specific processor they are referring to and google its name with "passmark" after it.

Most of today's modern processors can be found in either mid-high or high end charts below (the exception being the real low-power processors)

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/mid_range_cpus.html

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

Today's laptop is a decent deal. The chicklet type keyboard is a total user preference. To me it does not make a difference unless the keyboard feels cheap (a lot of flex to it)- because I can't type worth a damn anyway.

What do you mean by a chicklet type keyboard?

I'm a damn good typer if I can say so myself...and my gateway was an absolute mess and THE most un-user-friendly keyboard and mouse I've ever touched on a computer.

Does this allow you to easily disable and re-enable the touchpad. I hate typing out a report and having my touchpad relocate the cursor to some random spot on the page.