radi0j0hn wrote:Yes. The hot air it "collects" has to go somewhere. Either outside or back in your room. You decide.

Not necessarily meaning you 0j0 but where does all the hot air from some of these posts vent to?

Does woot have some sort of vent hole?

lAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS MAKE THIS A SHAM. YOU CANNOT COOL A ROOM FROM THE INSIDE. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WHY WINDOW AIR CONDITIONERS EXIST, AS THE HEAT GENERATED EXITS TO THE OUTDOOR SIDE. THIS MAY MAKE YOUR FACE FEEL COOL, BUT IT WILL BE HEATING YOUR ROOM.

H2ORip wrote:Also, once you have the unit in place, let it sit for a day so the coolant is most effective and settles

Why does it need to settle?
Won't it settle on its own eventually, anyway?

keeganlare wrote:lAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS MAKE THIS A SHAM. YOU CANNOT COOL A ROOM FROM THE INSIDE. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WHY WINDOW AIR CONDITIONERS EXIST, AS THE HEAT GENERATED EXITS TO THE OUTDOOR SIDE. THIS MAY MAKE YOUR FACE FEEL COOL, BUT IT WILL BE HEATING YOUR ROOM.

Wow, you can't be serious. Did you even read the description of how this works? I have several portable units and they work fine.

keeganlare wrote:lAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS MAKE THIS A SHAM. YOU CANNOT COOL A ROOM FROM THE INSIDE. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WHY WINDOW AIR CONDITIONERS EXIST, AS THE HEAT GENERATED EXITS TO THE OUTDOOR SIDE. THIS MAY MAKE YOUR FACE FEEL COOL, BUT IT WILL BE HEATING YOUR ROOM.

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR FIRST POST TO WOOT1 WELCOME AND DON'T MIND THE PEOPLE THAT WILL SAY TYPING IN ALL CAPS IS LIKE "SHOUTING" ON THE INTERNET.

dmax801 wrote:My question, too. Because, you know, to cool the room the warmth has to go somewhere else, right?...

Yes, you DO have to vent the exhaust hose out of a window, but it's portable in the sense that it takes 5 minutes to do that, and you can easily move it to another room and window.

The exhaust hose is long enough to give you maybe a 6' radius around the window where you can place the unit.

keeganlare wrote:lAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS MAKE THIS A SHAM. YOU CANNOT COOL A ROOM FROM THE INSIDE. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WHY WINDOW AIR CONDITIONERS EXIST, AS THE HEAT GENERATED EXITS TO THE OUTDOOR SIDE. THIS MAY MAKE YOUR FACE FEEL COOL, BUT IT WILL BE HEATING YOUR ROOM.

LOUD NOISES!

Seriously, though. This has an exhaust port that is ducted out a window. The waste heat is pushed out through the duct, so no, it really does cool the room down just fine. I have one.

einspahr wrote:Hate to read all of the specs so will ask the experts. Does this HAVE to be put into a window?

No. But it must exhaust the heat outside somehow. This unit isn't placed in a window, but the exhaust is (usually). If you want, you can put the unit several feet from a window as long as you can run an exhaust hose there.

As far as running this in a closed room (one of the complaints here mentioned this), um, d'oh. AC units move heat and consume power doing that. If you try to use this to cool a closed room, all you'll do is to make the room warmer. That's basic physics.

Debating this-- it's new, not refurb, but so many negative comments here from the last Sharp offering (which was a refurb)... also, someone noted there's no reviews online... so this is like some decoy stealth a/c unit that will come alive at night, prank call my mom, order pizzas to random houses, and devour my soul or something?

Neat. I like pizza.

Oh yeah. And the traditional Woot question:

Is this compatible with Mac?

therealjrn wrote:CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR FIRST POST TO WOOT1 WELCOME AND DON'T MIND THE PEOPLE THAT WILL SAY TYPING IN ALL CAPS IS LIKE "SHOUTING" ON THE INTERNET.

Be fair. He didn't use ALL caps - he started his sentence with a lower case 'L'.

I purchased a Sharp unit from Woot! about a month ago. My model was different from this one, but a few points of clarification:

(1) My unit arrived intact, with no broken parts. All pieces were accounted for. I would imagine this was true for the lion's share of units sold/shipped. YMMV.

(2) The unit is heavy, but not *that* heavy. I can easily lift it up to put on blocks (to drain it; more on that in a moment). I wouldn't want to carry it around on my back, but it's definitely manageable.

(3) "Loud" is relative, but I would say it is no louder than a typical box fan on low/medium. What did take some getting used to was the the compressor coming on/off, which does result in a change in pitch/volume. IOW, it's not steady state white noise.

(4) I have the unit in a SW facing, back bedroom (approximately 150 sqr feet). Even with central air, this room was always hot. My unit more than adequately cools the room. In fact, it can make it meat locker cold. I have it venting out an original, 1950's single pane window. This room is anything but energy efficient friendly and the unit does just fine getting it cold. Obviously, the aforementioned "laws of thermodynamics" must not apply in this room. I didn't even bother with the weather stipping and all that other non-sense. I just friction fit everything in the window and called it a day.

(5) I've been running it, pretty much non-stop, since it arrived. Went to empty the tank for the first time, and there was no water in it at all. IOW, it must be venting out the moisture as it is supposed to. I have no idea how humid my house actually gets, but I live in a humid climate and it can clearly keep up.

hth.

I have years of experience with these type of units.

You are always better of with a window unit. The only time you would use a portable AC unit is when it's not practical to mount a window unit.

I got rid of both my portables this year and went with window units.

Just FYI, as with all compressors, you need to let it stand upright for a few hours so the OIL settles back down into the compressor. Ever moved a refrigerator in the back of a truck? You laid it down on its back, right? Then you plugged it in when you arrived at your new hovel. And what happened? Compressor go blooey. 'Cause it didn't have enough lubrication. And everyone knows you've gotta have lubrication. Wait, we're getting off topic...

[quote postid="5115549" user="CrystaIEyes"]Haha thanks! I know I'd need extra muscles if I were going to lift it on my own.
That's why I was hoping for a guess on the delivery date,
if by some chance I can get it shipped to the apartment I can probably make the delivery person at least get it up the front stairs for me (and maybe into the RIDICULOUSLY YOUWOULDNOTBELIEVEHOWSMALL elevator). Which would be much more awesome.

But if it won't be when I'm there, then I have to try using "the force" to get it to budge I think =

If you can fit two people into the elevator you can get this unit into it. Cut around the bottom of the box and wheel it onto the elevator. It will wheel right in the door. Bought my elderly mother one of these. She loves it.

badhabit12 wrote:I have years of experience with these type of units.

You are always better of with a window unit. The only time you would use a portable AC unit is when it's not practical to mount a window unit.

I got rid of both my portables this year and went with window units.

Sadly, I have no double-hung windows in my condo. It's all side-sliding windows and patio doors. I don't have much choice besides a "portable" unit.

All I can say is WOW! When I read the reviews of products here or on Amazon or Newegg I start to believe in extra dimensions and alternate universes. Anyway, here is the truth in my universe. These portable air conditioners have advantages and disadvantages. If you are rich get central air. If you are poor and have a window where you can install an A/C unit get a window air conditioner. BUT, if you DON'T have a window in which you can fit a window air conditioner OR you want the ability to (relatively) easily move the A/C unit from one room to another get one of these. If you want to get all deluxe and everything you should keep the exhaust hose as short as possible (it expands), wrap the hose in insulation and run a hose from the water outlet outside or to a floor drain. I am thinking about installing a dryer vent outlet for the exhaust and a drain hose to the outside cause I don't like dealing with windows. Currently I live in an apartment so for now I just cut a hole in the wall and vent the hot air into my neighbor's apartment. It's pretty efficient and I get a lot of entertainment value by repeatedly asking him if this summer is hot enough for him! In conclusion, there are more ways to skin a cat than there are to cool down a room but it's still nice to have some options.

radi0j0hn wrote:Chances are this is a Haier (Chinese) derivative. I own one and (with an important caveat) it helped a lot in the recent heat wave.

BUT, BUT, BUT: The evaporative design to make it "tankless" DOES NOT WORK!

Bad idea with a small innner tray that cannot keep up with the amount of moisture in the air in many places.

Solution: unplug the "end of season" drain hole, attach a small bit of rubber tube and drain into a dish pan or bucket.

THE UNIT WILL NEED TO BE HIGHER THAN THE BUCKET FOR THIS TO WORK!

I was sucking gallons of water out of my kitchen and living room during the recent heat wave with my Haier.

Maybe you won't need to do this if you are in Arizona or South Texas.

There are also plenty of pump systems that will self pump the water out of the tank or back of the unit depending on the design. Using gravity is definitely the less complex and quietest technique but there are alternatives.

Report from unit purchased in last woot-off: used it in my rental house when the AC went out over the weekend of 3-5 AUG. Tenants reported that it kept the bedroom perfectly cool, but when deployed in the dining room (next to connected kitchen) and the home AC was set on fan to distribute the cool air throughout both 1,250 sq. ft. floors of this ranch house, the unit was only able to maintain temp at 84F on a 95F day. All windows are side sliders. No problems adapting the exhaust to them. So, perfect for my purposes; not so good as a replacement for your central AC unit.

nicsmith wrote:It might evaporate out the exhaust tube?

The moisture is blown out the window vent as moist air. In AC mode, it is blown out the window vent as hot, moist air.

Sharp Service is the Worst! I have contacted them a few times about a Broken Caster and they said they would call back. Still nothing!

I recently bought the refurbished 10,500 BTU/h Sharp portable A/C that Woot sold a couple of weeks ago. I replaced a 5,000 BTU/h window unit with the 10,500 BTU/h Sharp portable. Some observations that may be helpful to prospective buyers:

1. As others have noted, this is a single-hose portable unit, which means that it exhausts hot air from your room. The exhausted air must be replaced, and the replacement air will be sucked in through whatever openings are available... e.g., an open door, the space under a closed door, heating vents, etc.
   
2. The replacement air is likely to be hot and humid, reducing the net effectiveness of a single-hose portable A/C, as compared to window units and two-hose portables, which have the advantage of repeatedly cooling and dehumidifying the "same" air.
   
3. In my experience, the Sharp portable does not get the room as cold as the smaller window unit did, but the window unit took hours to be effective.
   
4. On the other hand, within about 60 seconds, the Sharp portable begins pumping out cold, dehumidified air, which makes the room comfortable anywhere the breeze from the portable A/C reaches. The result is that I no longer have to start the A/C in advance to make the room comfortable as I did with the window unit. Instead, I can run the portable unit only when I need it.
   
5. The Sharp portable A/C is much, much quieter, even in "MAX A/C" mode, than the window unit it replaced. (I don't know whether the unit being sold today by Woot is as quiet; according to the specs, it's about 34 pounds lighter.)
   
6. I have not yet had to empty the condensate tank.
   

mytoon wrote:Sharp Service is the Worst! I have contacted them a few times about a Broken Caster and they said they would call back. Still nothing!

They are even worse than Woot's mythical Customer Service. Once I got a person on the phone (after frequent disconnects)this person didn't seem to know what an air conditioner was. I do believe it was one of those transferred to India type calls. Their solution was for me to bring my 80lb ac, to their service center 45 miles away. This is unacceptable, I gave them all my info and haven't heard back from them either along with Woot's service dept.

neilormos wrote:I recently bought the refurbished 10,500 BTU/h Sharp portable A/C that Woot sold a couple of weeks ago.

With 2 broken casters due to improper packing, the ac unit is no longer "portable".

I own a 13k BTU Sharp Portable for a walk out basement that needs a bit of help as it acts as an office. It works fine, I've never had to empty anything because in A/C mode it seems to handle the evaporation fine....in Dehumidifier mode I think I may have to empty some tank, but to be honest I don't even know where the tank actually is on the thing.


Mine was sold as "Library Quiet"....and I have to say it is pretty quiet. I replaced two window units with this thing that were simply too loud to work around while on the phone, etc...one was a Frigidaire (absurdly loud but sold as a 'quiet model') and the other was...hrrmm, very old

Not sure on this model, but if this model is a dog don't let it sour you to other portable AC's.

drlava wrote:If this exhausts the hot air to the outside, and assuming this air starts on the inside, doesn't that mean the room air must eventually be replaced by drawing in air from the outside? I mean, you can't just keep exhausting air from a room and expect to be able to breathe without it being replaced by air from somewhere else..
So does that decrease the efficiency of these units?

You are under the assumption that your house is a hermetically sealed, air-tight enclosure. In your situation this indeed may be the case. If your home is built this way, I would steer away from this unit as it would eventually pump all of the air out of the house leaving it a cold vacuum....like space.

As far as I can tell, Woot does not currently ship to the International Space Station. Your fears may be moot.

CowboyDann wrote:!!!!!!!!!Buyer Beware!!!!!!!

Check out what happened when woot offered a Sharp A/C unit JUST LAST MONTH!



This is a serious issue and should be addressed. Feel free to read all about it right here

If you buy it and it arrives damaged (through shipping or manufacturers defect) be prepared to jump through hoops to get your money back.

If you're hoping for a replacement unit...

We bought the one offered last month and absolutely love it!

It looked brand new, remote came with batteries, the install took 15 minutes, and it blows a TON of cold air.

It is also very quiet, much quieter than the floor fans we were using.

We have run it every day for several hours and have not had to empty it.

toonvox wrote:Sadly, I have no double-hung windows in my condo. It's all side-sliding windows and patio doors. I don't have much choice besides a "portable" unit.

YOUTUBE offers a vast number of "HOW TO's" on addressing this issue. I am not sure if they meet your particular situation, but give it a look-see.

Hope this helps.

keeganlare wrote:lAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS MAKE THIS A SHAM. YOU CANNOT COOL A ROOM FROM THE INSIDE. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON WHY WINDOW AIR CONDITIONERS EXIST, AS THE HEAT GENERATED EXITS TO THE OUTDOOR SIDE. THIS MAY MAKE YOUR FACE FEEL COOL, BUT IT WILL BE HEATING YOUR ROOM.

Don't get me started. I can prove otherwise based on many hours of coursework in Thermodynamics, Fluid Dynamics, Heat Transfer, and Thermal Systems.

JGnumber3 wrote:According to the manual, it's bucketless but it does have a tank. An alarm goes off, the owner jumps up, empties the tank and restarts the AC after a three minute shutdown. How is that self-evaporative?

It has a tank from which the water is normally used for evaporative cooling, resulting in the moisture being vented out with the hot air. That being said, sometimes there is just too much water in the air and the tank fills up despite the evaporation, so the tank needs to be emptied. This happened with the similar one I bought last time they were wooted. I took a shower in the bathroom that has an open wall to the room in which the ac was working. It was a pain to empty - I strongly recommend you buy and install at least a short hose to the drain - but since then I have made sure I didn't use that shower while the ac was running and despite high outdoor humidity, I have not had to empty the tank again. I would not recommend this for people living in areas where humidity routinely runs in the 80 - 90% range during the summer unless you make draining arrangements, but it has handled humidity in the 70's well. The one I have is surprisingly quiet (quieter than other brands I have used) and it pumps a lot of cold air. Overall recommended. If I hadn't ordered 2 last time, I would be in for another one.

I have a different model Sharp that I purchased refurbed from Odd Lots.
Using it in Upstate NY, and it works GREAT!
Of course, common sense tells us, if you put the thing in a basement or other high humidity area, it could initially be overwhelmed getting the humidity out...I have never had to drain mine.
And again, you HAVE to vent it outside...it produces heat...It will not produce more cooling than the heat it puts off...kind of ridiculous to even expect that it would..
That would be like putting a window unit on the coffee table and expecting it to work....
One excellent feature I've not seen mentioned of this type of unit, is that you can EASILY remove the vent part from the window, and open it when it isn't needed...try that with a window unit.
My only small issue I have, (although again, it's just common sense) is that when the compressor cycles on, there is a bit of an abrupt bump in noise level...and takes a little getting used to if it's in a bedroom and you are a light sleeper...maybe a little more noticeable versus a window unit, since it is not hanging outside.
Run a fan at medium speed, and it'll make it less noticeable..
Can't speak to damaged shipping complaints....I don't know how this is Woots fault? I'd say it is on the shipper...or the customer for signing for it w/out inspecting it first....I know they leave stuff on your porch for your convenience today...maybe Woot should require a signature for big packages...but that'll be an inconvenience for some...and another reason for people to lodge complaints...
People love to complain...
Just sayin'...

kjrehberg wrote:Why does it need to settle?
Won't it settle on its own eventually, anyway?

No, the OP has a good point. Refridgerant systems have PAG oil in addition to coolant gases. The oil might accumulate into the evaporator during shipping, meaning if you fire it up before letting the oil settle back into the compressor, you will run the compressor dry.

This is actually the most common failure for window A/C's and refridgerators (which you are never suppose to transport or store on their sides, always upright.

I rent a property with window units, and one failed in a fireball of glory after the tenants installed it and fired it right up after storing it for a year on its side. The compressor had no lubrication and actually caught on fire within minutes.

God that was an awful smell of fried bearings and burned oil.

NOTE: This is 100% a rebranded Edgestar "Onyx" model. The pictures are identical!!!

I have a unit that looks like this but differnt name. Cost more when i picked it up about 6or 7 years ago. Im in a basement apt me and roomate call The Swamp.. if the AC ever gets behind (it in livingroom) the bedrooms are hot and himid. this year its been bad. I picked this unit up and have it in my bedroom. A real ROUGH estimate is $40 a month when used non stop for me. I have to empty the water bucket about every 4 or so hours.. if its been off, more to start, less the longer it runs (normally its off about 3-4AM till i get home at 4:00PM and the bucket requires dumping about 3 hours or so. good news amzon sells pumps for this type of application, couple fittings ($10) and the pump ($40) and you never have to empty again. How it works: as long as its going, its cool.. shuts off for full bucket or ? the room heats up quick. i have a 10X14 bedroom and it works fine as long as its on all the time. I WOULD GET A REAL window unit but its would nto work in my tall narrow windows. so for those of us whoc cant use windows units, and ONLY want to cool small areas I would say it works fine, bit expensive to run alot.

gregwe wrote:Interesting. It's got the same exact control panel that my Soleus Air portable unit has. I'm willing to bet it has the same innards as well, and mine was cheaper. Not Woot! cheaper, but regular price.

Perhaps you would share the source of your pricing? I haven't seen a 10,000 BTU portable A/C for anything less than $325 and most are $350 and up.

Bought a similar 10.5 K Sharp Portable during the last woot-off (about 25 bucks less) to deal with a hot room with vertical slider windows (slides left to right, not up and down which almost all portables are designed for.) Got it quickly - thanks woot. The non-beefy fedex guy carried it in on his shoulder and this thing weighs 85 lbs - impressive! The window frame was all metal and you really need some wood to attach the plastic frame. Cut a wood strip and attached it; took an extra 10 minutes. All together was up and running in 30 minutes.

Bottom line: this works great, is very quiet, and we are very pleased.

I bought one of the other Sharp units a few weeks ago and I am in for one of these. I guess I am one of the lucky ones, receiving mine intact, casters and all. But looking at the state of the styrofoam at the bottom of the shipping box, I can see how many people received cooling robots with poor little broken feet.

I discovered my windows are too narrow for the plastic adapter parts that both of these A/C units come with, so I made my own window adapter out of cardboard sheets and Elmer's glue.

I ordered one of these new "Sharp" models because:

1. I like the idea of having controls on the unit itself instead of needing the remote to adjust things.
2. It's somewhat smaller and substantially lighter than the current one.
3. I can live with 5% less rated BTUs of cooling power.
4. It looks very Darth2-D2, and that makes me giggle.

Woot, please please please ship this new unit as quickly as the last one. I ordered it on 7/14 and it arrived on 7/20--the fastest Woot I think I have ever received.

Also, Woot gods, please remove whatever javascrapt nonsense you have on the comment page that prevents me from changing the size of the textarea. Do you really expect people to enjoy typing in a 20 column wide box?

[quote postid="5115902" user="brbubba"]NOTE: This is 100% a rebranded Edgestar "Onyx" model. The pictures are identical!!!

Hmmmm....so I have a real Sharp one that has served me for years and am happy with. Not thrilled to find out that this may be some TBD Chinese thing that for whatever reason Sharp has slapped their name on (ok, I realize even the Sharp ones are probably made in China, but at least I feel comfortable in knowing that hopefully experienced Japanese Engineers and QC folks had a hand in designing and making the thing). I ordered one, but now reconsidering...I have poked around for some online reviews and generally positive but umcomfortable buying a re-badged thing when I thought I was getting a "Sharp" unit...

terutt wrote:[quote postid="5115902" user="brbubba"]NOTE: This is 100% a rebranded Edgestar "Onyx" model. The pictures are identical!!!

Hmmmm....so I have a real Sharp one that has served me for years and am happy with. Not thrilled to find out that this may be some TBD Chinese thing that for whatever reason Sharp has slapped their name on (ok, I realize even the Sharp ones are probably made in China, but at least I feel comfortable in knowing that hopefully experienced Japanese Engineers and QC folks had a hand in designing and making the thing). I ordered one, but now reconsidering...I have poked around for some online reviews and generally positive but umcomfortable buying a re-badged thing when I thought I was getting a "Sharp" unit...

They are NOT identical

nanaejt wrote:@CowboyDann "Thanks, I'm glad someone else is advertising this!"
CowboyDann's way of saying "Hey I already said that " Lol

That's my way of saying I'm glad I can count on a regular poster to back me up.