Kodak has been selling batteries for a long time. You need Kodak film for your camera, so why not Kodak batteries too? The migration to digital photos has killed the film side and cheaper batteries killed Kodak's expensive batteries.

Tidbit: a friend once worked in one of those retail store photo labs and got to collect and keep all the AA batteries from disposable camera. The guy would come out of there with grocery bags stuffed with used but still serviceable batteries, nearly all of them made by Kodak. They performed fine.

Polaroid has also manufactured batteries. Notably the unique PolaPulse series that has found uses far outside photography.

TeknoKid wrote:
So what’s up with these batteries? are they new old stock or are they being produced by someone who bought the rights to the name thinking they would sell more batteries than if they used their own name? (not like Kodak was know for batteries anyway)

danwat1234 wrote:Hmm, I think NiMH rechargeable AA and AAA batteries are the answer rather than buying a ton of one-use batteries. Buy enough NiMH batteries to keep you happy and a quality charger that won't bake the batteries (like the Maha MHC401FS dual speed charger) and they'll last for 500 cycles or more if you charge them on "slow" mode as much as possible. It makes financial sense and green sense.
NiMH is toxic so recycle at end of life

Most NiMH AAA cells are around 950 milliamp-hour and AAA cells are around 2300 milliamp hour at 1.2 volts.

That's fine, but not all devices work with rechargeable batteries. Rechargeables do not charge to the same voltage levels as a new alkaline battery, thus, any device which checks the voltage of a battery when you put it in (such as my Medtronic Paradigm 722 insulin pump) may reject it. In other words, I cannot use rechargeables in my insulin pump, regardless of how "green" I might want to be - and my ecologically friendly heart just has to get used to that fact. I suspect there are any number of other medical devices which operate similarly.

[quote postid="5128057" user="cengland0"]This is not true. According to Kodak on their own site, as quoted on this,

http://www.kodak.com/ek/US/en/Kodak_Focuses_Consumer_Business_On_More_Profitable_Growth_Opportunities.htm


Kodak’s continuing consumer products and services will include:

*

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* Kodak Gallery (www.kodakgallery.com), a leading online digital photo products service. Kodak Gallery enables consumers to share their photos, and offers product and creation tools that enable people to do more with their photos.

I had a Kodak Gallery account and several months ago was emailed instructions to switch my albums to another similar provider, Shutterfly, if I remember correctly, who was taking over all of their accounts because they were no longer going to be doing this. I followed the instructions by the deadline because all Kodak Gallery accounts would be closed by that date.

cengland0 wrote:This is not true. According to Kodak on their own site, they will remain in the battery business.

http://www.kodak.com/ek/US/en/Kodak_Focuses_Consumer_Business_On_More_Profitable_Growth_Opportunities.htm


Kodak’s continuing consumer products and services will include:

* Retail-based photo kiosks and digital dry lab systems, a market in which Kodak is the clear worldwide leader. Kodak pioneered the retail-based kiosk market, and the company now has more than 100,000 kiosks and order stations for dry lab systems around the world, with some 30,000 of those units connected to the most popular photo-sharing sites.

* Consumer inkjet printers, where Kodak has outpaced overall market growth for several years. Kodak consumer inkjet printers provide consumers with high-quality output and the lowest total ink replacement cost. Consumers can send documents and photos to Kodak printers from anywhere, using any web-connected device.

* Kodak apps for Facebook, which make it easy for consumers to obtain photo products using photos from their Facebook albums.

* Kodak Gallery (www.kodakgallery.com), a leading online digital photo products service. Kodak Gallery enables consumers to share their photos, and offers product and creation tools that enable people to do more with their photos.

* The Kodak camera accessories and batteries businesses. These products are universally compatible with all camera brands, and extend into other consumer product segments such as charging units for smartphones.

* The traditional film capture and photographic paper business, which continues to provide high-quality and innovative products and solutions to consumers, photographers, retailers, photofinishers and professional labs.

Kodak Gallery is closed. Everything was switched over to Shutterfly.

FYI
On woot Community Sourced deals! there's a link to Justdeals.com for 120 AA's for $17.77 (includes shipping) - from Fry's.

Personally, I use rechargables -- Sanyo eneloops has the best reviews on Amazon (they stay charged longer than most other rechargables.)

seahokedrama wrote:Rechargeables arn't always practical.

Take the kids leap-pad devices... even with high-quality brand new rechargeables- they get about 1 hr use before the batteries need recharging again.

AA Rechargables don't last long enough in certain products before they drain too quickly.

+1 for this. I use rechargeables for most everything; however, there are some exceptions because it's just not practical. For instance:

Remote controls. Regular batteries can last several years in these devices but I'd be replacing the rechargeables more often and that's inconvenient to me.

Wall clocks. I have several that take AA batteries and again they last about a year. Put in a rechargeable and you'll be replacing it too often.

A portable fan that uses 8 batteries. If you use regular 1.5V alkaline, you will get 12V and the fan runs great with lots of airflow. If you use rechargeables, you get 9.6 - 10V and it runs slow.

Some electronic devices like flashes work great with the higher current of rechargeables but others like my bluetooth wireless mouse does not. The bluetooth connection is intermittent probably due to the reduced voltage.

I am trying some new alkaline rechargeables that I bought from Woot and so far they seem good. They are working in all my devices but I notice they do not last very long before the product reports a low battery. If you let those drain more than half of their capacity, you can damage the battery beyond any repair. I'm still undecided if I like those or not.

I really like my eneloop batteries for my camera flashes. It's amazing how many more flashes I can get versus regular alkaline or NiMh batteries.

krmillie wrote:Kodak Gallery is closed. Everything was switched over to Shutterfly.

That is true. I was quoting what their website says. This is what the Shutterfly site says about it:

Kodak Gallery closed July 2, 2012 and Shutterfly is now
providing photo services for former Kodak Gallery customers. This includes moving all Kodak Gallery photos to Shutterfly starting mid-July.

sdc100 wrote:Keep in mind that Kodak has discontinued most of its business so upgrades and firmware updates are unlikely! So buy at your own risk.

Yes. Because if there is one thing I am worried about here is upgrading these batteries or updating the batteries' firmware.

tedtropy wrote:For a site with such a green theme, this is not a very green offer. Seriously though, if you would ever find yourself in need of 72 batteries, why not "splurge" on a few rechargeables? LOL hippies...

Rechargeables don't always work out that well depending on the device being powered and usage time. I tried going all-rechargeable once (albeit about 5-6 years ago) and the batteries (Duracell) wouldn't hold a charge after just a few months. Powering mostly a digital camera, Xbox remotes, wireless mouse/keyboard...

I end up spending much less now in regular batteries; I think we've gone through maybe a 24-pack since Christmas, so worth it for less hassle.

kuma99 wrote:what do you mean these leak?

It 'Depends'.

vladistov wrote:Chapter 11 Bankruptcy is not the same thing as being 'no longer in business'. Staying in business is, in fact, the very object of filing.

I don't mean to indicate whether or not Kodak is to honor warranty or to what to degree; but should all else fail, Woot! has your back:

"How do I return a defective product?

Unless we specifically tell you not to, call the manufacturer of the product you bought. You will likely get a replacement of a new model or better item from them. If we still haven't dissuaded you, email rma@woot.com with your woot order number, the name of the product you are returning, and the detailed problem with the item. We will respond with return authorization by the next business day. Because we aren't likely to have a replacement in stock, you should be prepared for a refund-only option if that's all we can do. Know that return freight will be at your expense. Again, you will probably get a better deal from the manufacturer, or whoever else handling member service for that product."

None of these batteries work any longer! I demand a refund..

bigroblee wrote:What is the difference? Sorry, but my ignorance is showing...

Heavy Duty batteries are an improvement over regular zinc-carbon batteries. They have a longer life but not as long as alkaline or lithium batteries. Still, for some applications -- most notably, those having mechanical output, i.e. motors -- heavy duty batteries may be more cost-effective than alkalines.

I used to work for the battery manufacturing division of Panasonic. The alkaline battery factory they had in the U.S. was a joint venture with Kodak. That same plant made the Panasonic, Kodak, Maxell, Philips, Amway, and several other brands of batteries. They licensed their battery making technology to Ray-o-Vac and would even make some batteries for Ray-o-Vac when they couldn't produce enough.

There was a period of time when the company had a problem with bad seals on the negative end of the AA batteries, but that was over 14 years ago.

The alkaline battery factory in the U.S. was closed and relocated about 5 or 6 years ago. (This was after I left the company)

We used to laugh at the various ratings that came out on alkaline batteries, because while magazines like Consumer Reports would rate certain brands better than others, we knew that the batteries were in fact all the same and made on the same equipment. At the time I was in the industry, there were only 3 different alkaline battery manufacturers in the U.S., but lots of different brands.

Alkaline batteries are good for up to 5 years from the date of manufacture. At the 5 year mark, they will be sitting at 85% of full capacity.

BTW, the only difference between the regular alkaline batteries and the "Ultra" types is a carbon coating of the inside of the steel can of the battery. The carbon coating helps for a quicker recycle time in high drain applications, like a camera flash. It won't really help in something like flashlight use, where the drain is a slow constant.

rsilver wrote:Kodak is no longer in the battery business. These batteries leak.

Just took some batteries out of my radio - they had leaked. They were Duracells. And - I paid a lot more for them.

All batteries leak - you need to keep an eye on them.

How do I do one order of both AA and AAA sizes?

Atltrainman wrote:I used to work for the battery manufacturing division of Panasonic. The alkaline battery factory they had in the U.S. was a joint venture with Kodak. That same plant made the Panasonic, Kodak, Maxell, Philips, Amway, and several other brands of batteries. They licensed their battery making technology to Ray-o-Vac and would even make some batteries for Ray-o-Vac when they couldn't produce enough.

There was a period of time when the company had a problem with bad seals on the negative end of the AA batteries, but that was over 14 years ago.

The alkaline battery factory in the U.S. was closed and relocated about 5 or 6 years ago. (This was after I left the company)

We used to laugh at the various ratings that came out on alkaline batteries, because while magazines like Consumer Reports would rate certain brands better than others, we knew that the batteries were in fact all the same and made on the same equipment. At the time I was in the industry, there were only 3 different alkaline battery manufacturers in the U.S., but lots of different brands.

Alkaline batteries are good for up to 5 years from the date of manufacture. At the 5 year mark, they will be sitting at 85% of full capacity.

BTW, the only difference between the regular alkaline batteries and the "Ultra" types is a carbon coating of the inside of the steel can of the battery. The carbon coating helps for a quicker recycle time in high drain applications, like a camera flash. It won't really help in something like flashlight use, where the drain is a slow constant.

Thanks! This was the most informative post today. Now I feel okay about purchasing these batteries from woot!

danwat1234 wrote:Hmm, I think NiMH rechargeable AA and AAA batteries are the answer rather than buying a ton of one-use batteries. Buy enough NiMH batteries to keep you happy and a quality charger that won't bake the batteries (like the Maha MHC401FS dual speed charger) and they'll last for 500 cycles or more if you charge them on "slow" mode as much as possible. It makes financial sense and green sense.
NiMH is toxic so recycle at end of life

Most NiMH AAA cells are around 950 milliamp-hour and AAA cells are around 2300 milliamp hour at 1.2 volts.

There are many places that an alkaline is superior; large camera flash units, for instance. I have both low self-discharge and high discharge capacity NiMH batteries. The low discharge fire slower strobes, the high discharges are often dead on their own before I get to use them.
The slightly lower voltage of the NiMH batts can be annoying for LED lamps requiring a threshold voltage to fire, and then they are though to be dead when they are just weak.
The recharging and cycling can be a pain when you are in a hurry and you have to check them when you need them. Alkalines are easy, when they are bad they go to the trash; the ones that are left are the good ones.
Sorry, sometimes being green does not get the job done. And I have been a dues paying member of a conservation club for over 30 years....

TeknoKid wrote:Isn't Kodak out of business? I thought it was being split up into parts and only the patents really had value..

So what’s up with these batteries? are they new old stock or are they being produced by someone who bought the rights to the name thinking they would sell more batteries than if they used their own name? (not like Kodak was know for batteries anyway)

Kodak is out of the camera business. They make other things.

As several posters have said ALL brands leak - I've had every major brand leak. Solution: don't leave batteries in something that will sit unused for 6+ months

Good price on these.

You can do a bit better if you have a Costco by you. I've had great experience with their Kirkland batteries.

Also as others have noted for applications where rechargables work, I've found Sanyos to be better than other brands. (Both at holding a charge and lasting for more recharge cycles). Although the units I own have slightly lower current ratings.

These are sold under the name of a bankrupt company that failed because it failed it's customers. you get what you see.

hagbard78 wrote:With $5 shipping it comes out to $0.27/battery if you just buy one set.

Amazon has a 48 pack of Maxell alkaline batteries for ~ $0.24/battery if you order enough for free shipping.

Head over to Deals.Woot for an even better deal. 17.99 for 120 = $0.15 per cell.

http://deals.woot.com/deals/details/25a97515-dec4-45b5-82f6-f1e08fa0fa0c/120-aa-alkaline-batteries#2

not2cheap wrote:In for 6 on 2 accounts. Need 648 volts to drive my flux capacitor.

I was sure ye ole fluxy required at least 1.21 jiggawatts, Marty.

Atltrainman wrote:I used to work for the battery manufacturing division of Panasonic. The alkaline battery factory they had in the U.S. was a joint venture with Kodak. That same plant made the Panasonic, Kodak, Maxell, Philips, Amway, and several other brands of batteries. They licensed their battery making technology to Ray-o-Vac and would even make some batteries for Ray-o-Vac when they couldn't produce enough.

There was a period of time when the company had a problem with bad seals on the negative end of the AA batteries, but that was over 14 years ago.

The alkaline battery factory in the U.S. was closed and relocated about 5 or 6 years ago. (This was after I left the company)

We used to laugh at the various ratings that came out on alkaline batteries, because while magazines like Consumer Reports would rate certain brands better than others, we knew that the batteries were in fact all the same and made on the same equipment. At the time I was in the industry, there were only 3 different alkaline battery manufacturers in the U.S., but lots of different brands.

Alkaline batteries are good for up to 5 years from the date of manufacture. At the 5 year mark, they will be sitting at 85% of full capacity.

BTW, the only difference between the regular alkaline batteries and the "Ultra" types is a carbon coating of the inside of the steel can of the battery. The carbon coating helps for a quicker recycle time in high drain applications, like a camera flash. It won't really help in something like flashlight use, where the drain is a slow constant.

All right FINE; now, about those firmware updates.....

Anyone know if you can order one of each type on same order to avoid douple shipping?

[quote postid="5127973" user="vladistov"]Chapter 11 Bankruptcy is not the same thing as being 'no longer in business'. Staying in business is, in fact, the very object of filing.

It's kinda like how some Americans are short selling their homes because they can and not because they have to, hurting all their neighbors as they run off an buy a new home for half the price. So Kodak will still have a business, but they don't have to pay their bills.

Sailnut wrote:Anyone know if you can order one of each type on same order to avoid douple shipping?

I thought the deal was....everything that you order in the same day all ships for $5. So, even if you place two separate orders for the batteries you still pay $5 (there is a link at the top of the page that explains this).

Sailnut wrote:Anyone know if you can order one of each type on same order to avoid douple shipping?

Not trying to be snarky, but take a look at the top right of the page. $5 All you can ship, learn more.

Sailnut wrote:Anyone know if you can order one of each type on same order to avoid douple shipping?

From the $5 All You Can Ship learn more button at the top:

"For a limited time, one $5 charge covers standard shipping on all your Woot orders within the same calendar day!

You heard us right. After you pay the initial $5 standard shipping charge on your first Woot order of the day, everything else you buy before midnight Central time gets free standard shipping.

That goes for any order, of any size, from any site in the Wootosphere. Buy from Woot, then grab a new tee at Shirt.Woot. Shop for the kids at Kids.Woot and yourself at Home.Woot. One $5 charge ships it all.

But All You Can Ship won't last long. We're not in the habit of leaving money on the table, so grab it while you can!
"

Awesome deal, what a price

I would stick to duracell or energizer. I purchased these at a local store when they were on "sale", and they all died very quickly. The battery's themselves feel very light. I would save your money and buy reliable battery's and not these.

If you put Kodak batteries in a Canon camera do the batteries start leaking as a means of vengance vs. the competitor ?

mossm wrote:I would stick to duracell or energizer. I purchased these at a local store when they were on "sale", and they all died very quickly. The battery's themselves feel very light. I would save your money and buy reliable battery's and not these.

If they were light you probably purchased heavy duty which is lesser quality than Alakline and does weigh less

Atltrainman wrote:I used to work for the battery manufacturing division of Panasonic. The alkaline battery factory they had in the U.S. was a joint venture with Kodak. That same plant made the Panasonic, Kodak, Maxell, Philips, Amway, and several other brands of batteries. They licensed their battery making technology to Ray-o-Vac and would even make some batteries for Ray-o-Vac when they couldn't produce enough.

There was a period of time when the company had a problem with bad seals on the negative end of the AA batteries, but that was over 14 years ago.

The alkaline battery factory in the U.S. was closed and relocated about 5 or 6 years ago. (This was after I left the company)

We used to laugh at the various ratings that came out on alkaline batteries, because while magazines like Consumer Reports would rate certain brands better than others, we knew that the batteries were in fact all the same and made on the same equipment. At the time I was in the industry, there were only 3 different alkaline battery manufacturers in the U.S., but lots of different brands.

Alkaline batteries are good for up to 5 years from the date of manufacture. At the 5 year mark, they will be sitting at 85% of full capacity.

BTW, the only difference between the regular alkaline batteries and the "Ultra" types is a carbon coating of the inside of the steel can of the battery. The carbon coating helps for a quicker recycle time in high drain applications, like a camera flash. It won't really help in something like flashlight use, where the drain is a slow constant.

Very helpful information - quality post for sure!

itsasecret2 wrote:There are many places that an alkaline is superior; large camera flash units, for instance. I have both low self-discharge and high discharge capacity NiMH batteries. The low discharge fire slower strobes, the high discharges are often dead on their own before I get to use them.
The slightly lower voltage of the NiMH batts can be annoying for LED lamps requiring a threshold voltage to fire, and then they are though to be dead when they are just weak.
The recharging and cycling can be a pain when you are in a hurry and you have to check them when you need them. Alkalines are easy, when they are bad they go to the trash; the ones that are left are the good ones.
Sorry, sometimes being green does not get the job done. And I have been a dues paying member of a conservation club for over 30 years....

My wife and I have used Sanyo Elenoop low-discharge NiMH batteries for a few years with our 580EXII unit and remote triggers, and they've treated us very well (our large flashes are AC). They seem to last for an average of a few hundred flashes for a pack of four, so a few packs will easily get us through most weddings. The originals had a slightly slower recycle than optimal, but nothing that interfered with most shooting. The new XX line has no recycle issues at all. Nearly all reviews on B&H, Adorama, and other photo sites are all glowing, so I know I'm not the only one who likes them. We don't have LED lamps, so I can't comment on that.

Of course, it does require a little bit of prep work: we charge them all the night before. However, after that, it's easy to keep track of which ones are used and which ones are fresh, same as keeping track of which cards are full/empty.

We've probably spent $150+ on rechargeables, but even the ones we originally bought 4+ years ago are still getting the job done just fine. High cost upfront, but we're not throwing away 8-16 batteries a weekend, and I don't have to worry about whether a set I used late in a shoot has enough charge to start the next one.

I will admit I'm biased; I hate buying throwaway products like normal alkaline batteries, mainly for economic reasons, but some ecological. If there's ever a chance to buy a rechargeable unit (universal remote, Wii remote packs, etc.), I do; outside of that, I've yet to find a device that will not use the Eneloops, though they do exist (as evidenced by previous posters). The only non-rechargeable batteries I've purchased in the last seven years have been 9-volt units for my smoke detectors and garage door keypad.

You couldn't pay me to ever purchase another Kodak battery again. I used to purchase them at Shoprite when on sale for dirt cheap, and never had a battery die so fast, each and every time. No mas!

hagbard78 wrote:With $5 shipping it comes out to $0.27/battery if you just buy one set.

Amazon has a 48 pack of Maxell alkaline batteries for ~ $0.24/battery if you order enough for free shipping.

Or if you have Prime, the shipping is free. The Maxell deal is a good one - thanks!

Atltrainman wrote:I used to work for the battery manufacturing division of Panasonic. The alkaline battery factory they had in the U.S. was a joint venture with Kodak. That same plant made the Panasonic, Kodak, Maxell, Philips, Amway, and several other brands of batteries. They licensed their battery making technology to Ray-o-Vac and would even make some batteries for Ray-o-Vac when they couldn't produce enough.

There was a period of time when the company had a problem with bad seals on the negative end of the AA batteries, but that was over 14 years ago.

The alkaline battery factory in the U.S. was closed and relocated about 5 or 6 years ago. (This was after I left the company)

We used to laugh at the various ratings that came out on alkaline batteries, because while magazines like Consumer Reports would rate certain brands better than others, we knew that the batteries were in fact all the same and made on the same equipment. At the time I was in the industry, there were only 3 different alkaline battery manufacturers in the U.S., but lots of different brands.

Alkaline batteries are good for up to 5 years from the date of manufacture. At the 5 year mark, they will be sitting at 85% of full capacity.

BTW, the only difference between the regular alkaline batteries and the "Ultra" types is a carbon coating of the inside of the steel can of the battery. The carbon coating helps for a quicker recycle time in high drain applications, like a camera flash. It won't really help in something like flashlight use, where the drain is a slow constant.

Give that man a quality post!

CowboyDann wrote:I just want to remind everyone, this could make a nice donation to toys for tots if you want to buy an extra one. People always remember to donate the toys, very few remember to donate the batteries it takes to power them.

Right on! Thanx for the tip!

FlamingoNut wrote:You couldn't pay me to ever purchase another Kodak battery again. I used to purchase them at Shoprite when on sale for dirt cheap, and never had a battery die so fast, each and every time. No mas!

The batteries on sale at Shoprite are Heavy Duty not Alakaline...alakline is a much better battery

Atltrainman wrote:I used to work for the battery manufacturing division of Panasonic. The alkaline battery factory they had in the U.S. was a joint venture with Kodak. That same plant made the Panasonic, Kodak, Maxell, Philips, Amway, and several other brands of batteries. They licensed their battery making technology to Ray-o-Vac and would even make some batteries for Ray-o-Vac when they couldn't produce enough.

There was a period of time when the company had a problem with bad seals on the negative end of the AA batteries, but that was over 14 years ago.

The alkaline battery factory in the U.S. was closed and relocated about 5 or 6 years ago. (This was after I left the company)

We used to laugh at the various ratings that came out on alkaline batteries, because while magazines like Consumer Reports would rate certain brands better than others, we knew that the batteries were in fact all the same and made on the same equipment. At the time I was in the industry, there were only 3 different alkaline battery manufacturers in the U.S., but lots of different brands.

Alkaline batteries are good for up to 5 years from the date of manufacture. At the 5 year mark, they will be sitting at 85% of full capacity.

BTW, the only difference between the regular alkaline batteries and the "Ultra" types is a carbon coating of the inside of the steel can of the battery. The carbon coating helps for a quicker recycle time in high drain applications, like a camera flash. It won't really help in something like flashlight use, where the drain is a slow constant.

Thanx for the insight!