wpolyak


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The only thing keeping me from buying this is the shipping. Only standard(smartpost) shipping. I barely trust smartpost with BofC's, I would rather spend extra $ for a more reliable and quicker shipping option.

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wpolyak wrote:The only thing keeping me from buying this is the shipping. Only standard(smartpost) shipping. I barely trust smartpost with BofC's, I would rather spend extra $ for a more reliable and quicker shipping option.

FWIW, this is being drop shipped directly from the vendor. It may not be SmartPost.



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dliidlii


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xaveng3rx wrote:I bought this watch (all black) about 3 months ago on amazon.com for $151. Cheapest I could find at the time... This is my dream watch and it works great. I only use it for fancy occasions. If you wind it all the way, it lasts about 2 days. Its mechanical because its the 50th anniversary series watch for Invicta, which means when they started, they didn't use batteries. also, this watch isn't worth $995. Its worth $1395. If you don't believe, buy one and check the plastic Invicta Logo price tag. It is obviously a waterproof watch, so It needs a cap on the crank/knob so it can protect the insides of the watch from water damage. The chain is so you don't lose the cap and it looks nice. It comes with a warranty and a beautiful yellow watch box.



Wow do you have a lot to learn about marketing. Invicta can put a MSRP of $995 or $1995 it has absolutely no connection to the actual value of the watch. Look up P.T. Barnum on Wikipedia and take notes. Oh, by the way, hang on to that warranty. You're going to need it but after you find out how much they charge in fees related to warranty repair (most problems are somehow not covered under the warranty) you'll probably not bother to fix it.

ewidener21


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I've been looking for a nice looking mechanical skeleton watch for a while now. Good thing I'm left-handed, makes this an added bonus, in for one!

compoundbreak791


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tech stuff wrote:are these watches for left-handers? usually the winding mechanism is on the right side of the watch and worn on the left wrist (for right handers). hmmmm.....



This really would make the watch ideal for person who wears time pieces on their right arm. Although I do wear my watch on my left, I would consider this a unique one, especially because I have already bought this item prior to noticing it this detail.

lwang


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iteststuff wrote:As a side note, according to US Navy dive tables, it would require a minimum of 12 minutes to safely surface from this depth. If this watch can truly handle such a depth, this is a cool watch



A 50m watch is only good for washing the dishes and such. 100m watch is good for swimming and snorkeling. 200m is adequate for recreational scuba diving. This is all due to the static pressure they are tested in and the dynamic pressure one encounters in real life.

Once can ascend at 66ft/min at depth and 33ft/min in shallower depth, so you can come up from 50m in about 4 min if you had to.

txyaloo


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tech stuff wrote:are these watches for left-handers? usually the winding mechanism is on the right side of the watch and worn on the left wrist (for right handers). hmmmm.....



A lot of expensive dive watches have the crown on the left hand side. Take a look at the Omega Ploprof, any of the Graham watches, the U-Boat, etc. This is usually due to the large crown or chrono-pushers. If they were on the right side, they would get pushed every time your wrist is bent upwards.

zofer11


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bookofjoshua wrote:Nice catch, either that or, they were put together upside down.....



Invicta does have a hefty lefty selection, maybe they were using an old ussr quota for left watches by mistake and there is the catch on the woot deal. Left wing overstock ! LolKk

Whoops I did it again : /

showcaller


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I think that it is for doing time in Siberia. They chain your leg to a steel ball so you don't go anywhere and they chain the crown to the watch so it doesn't go anywhere. It's really brilliant!

mboverload wrote:What is that chain? It's not addressed in the description.



jjjooe


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ThunderThighs wrote:Hey All!

I'm trying to get some information on the movement for Model 1843 (Silver with Black) to see if it's Mechanical Hand Wind like the others. Unfortunately, it'll might be morning before I can get that information.



I'm quite sure that it's Automatic self wind as described in Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Invicta-1843-Mechanical-Skeleton-Polyurethane/dp/B006DHZQGM/

nansea53


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Okay...

Is it just me, or has anyone else considered that the chain holding the cap on the crown is going to get caught on something and break?

dreprince


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HughHemington wrote:Brought to you by the people who built the K19 and Kursk! Spared no expense. No really, this time they mean it.

And who was the genius who decided to apply the term "skeleton" to a diver's watch?



No brought to you by the people who fly your astronauts into space cause US doesn't even have a shuttle.

StanleyS


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jjjooe wrote:I'm quite sure that it's Automatic self wind as described in Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Invicta-1843-Mechanical-Skeleton-Polyurethane/dp/B006DHZQGM/



I'm quite sure that it *isn't* self-winding; look at the photo of the back of the watch: there is NO counterweight in that mechanism.

buysumtime


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Just to make a few points without any comedic attempts:

1-Invicta (along with most lower end watch companies)inflates their suggested retail price to some astronomical amount to give the perception that the item is worth far more than it really is. It doesn't mean this is a bad watch watch, just not one worth anywhere near the MSRP. Heck, pretty much any jewelry company does the same, let alone watches. Just go to a jewelry store and watch the salesperson reduce the price of an item 50 to 70 percent to start. Jewelry and watches have crazy retail prices markups, but it is all BS!

2-This watch is only a "diver" watch in styling, not function. It is designed to look like an embellished older Russian style. Nothing about this watch should make anyone believe that it could actually be used for diving.

3-water resistance is a tricky number in watches. When a company rates a watch for water resistance, the number given is a number that reflects the water resistance in a static environment (meaning perfectly still water, no movement). Of course, a watch won't be in a static environment when being worn, so the real number is much lower. Best you could safely wear this watch would be in a pool, and that is probably pushing it a little, but the rating "should" be safe for swimming.

4-Russian is again, just a term used to indicate the design. Just so everyone is clear, this watch is not made in Russia. The parts, movement, etc. are all either Chinese or at best, Japanese. Again, this doesn't mean these watches are cheap, junk, etc. Most watches that can be bought for under $500 utilize these types of materials, especially when they are mechanical movements, not quartz.

5-The movements shown in the pictures are all hand wind movements. None are automatic, or self winding, or whatever other terminology one wants to use for a watch that winds itself while being worn. If anyone is interested, I would assume any watch you decide to order will be a hand wind movement.

Just to be clear, i am not bashing Invicta with this post. On the contrary, I have been buying and selling watches for over a decade (my screen name actually has a meaning!)and have always liked Invictas quality in relation to their "real" selling prices. The things I noted would hold true for most low cost watch companies.

Hope this post helps answer some questions.

dliidlii


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jjjooe wrote:I'm quite sure that it's Automatic self wind as described in Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Invicta-1843-Mechanical-Skeleton-Polyurethane/dp/B006DHZQGM/



That same page has a reviewer who mentions he has to WIND the watch every day.

snafu2u


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A few years back, I picked up a handsome knockoff watch in China for a song. I've been wondering when I'd finally see the same watch movement in the US...
I prefer it in my watch case however:




Looks like they rotated the movement 180 degrees to make it for lefties. And of course didn't add all the illegal trademarked logos and company name (roll eyes)

So I can say that this watch movement does keep accurate time and has good detail that non-watch enthusiasts will be impressed with. Horologists will of course scoff; If you don't know and don't care what a horologist is, then don't worry about it as Jaeger-LeCoultre is probably not on your shopping list. ;*)

In a nutshell, these watches have one of the nicer movements that the knockoff market in China was making a few years back. Just don't (especially at this price) expect it to last more than a few years.

dliidlii


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$12 from meritline. http://www.meritline.com/mens-sports-diving-watch-days---p-80729.aspx?clickid=VUVXakpBb0JDalFBQUc5UVQ2b0FBQU5n&source=dealnews
Men's Sports Diving Watch,50m Waterproof w/ EL Backlit/ Days / Alarm Clock / Stopwatch
Material: Stainless steel (back of case) + Alloy housing + Rubber watchband
Analogue and digital dual time zone displays sport diving watch
Digits display with blue EL backlight (date and time including sec. display)
12/24 hour format (selectable)
Features: pointer & digit display /Alarm clock / chime / stopwatch (1/100s)
50 meters waterproof (do not press any buttons in water)
Water resistant
Dial Diameter: 5cm
Wristband Length: 20.5cm
Powered by 1 x CR2016 battery (for digit display) &1 x SR626SW battery (for pointer display) (included)
Dimensions: 8.07 in x 1.97 in x 0.79 in (20.5 cm x5.0 cm x 2.0 cm)
Net Weight: 0.146 lb (66 g)
Gross Weight: 0.22 lb (102 g)

Sad part is it will probably work longer and be more accurate.

leechungsr


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buysumtime wrote:Just to make a few points without any comedic attempts:

1-Invicta (along with most lower end watch companies)inflates their suggested retail price to some astronomical amount to give the perception that the item is worth far more than it really is. It doesn't mean this is a bad watch watch, just not one worth anywhere near the MSRP. Heck, pretty much any jewelry company does the same, let alone watches. Just go to a jewelry store and watch the salesperson reduce the price of an item 50 to 70 percent to start. Jewelry and watches have crazy retail prices markups, but it is all BS!


4-Russian is again, just a term used to indicate the design. Just so everyone is clear, this watch is not made in Russia. The parts, movement, etc. are all either Chinese or at best, Japanese. Again, this doesn't mean these watches are cheap, junk, etc. Most watches that can be bought for under $500 utilize these types of materials, especially when they are mechanical movements, not quartz.



This man has good watch knowledge. Listen to him.

FWIW, I believe this watch has a Seagull 3600K Mechanical movement. This is a chinese made movement. It is very hit or miss; does well for some, and horribly for others. It's more a decorative piece than a truly dependable watch.

Invicta is notorious for having ridiculous MSRPs.

They use many varied movements from chinese Sea Gull, Miyota, Swiss ETA, and Ronda.

Take a look at the Invicta's classic 8926 and 9937. Most people cannot tell much difference between the two but one costs nearly 3x; because not only the overall quality, but because it uses a much nicer swiss movement over the miyota (btw which is great in its own right).

When comparing invictas, it's important to know which movement you are getting to determine a proper price for a given model. I would take a Swiss ETA or Ronda over a Miyota or Chinese anyday!

buysumtime


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dliidlii wrote:$12 from meritline. http://www.meritline.com/mens-sports-diving-watch-days---p-80729.aspx?clickid=VUVXakpBb0JDalFBQUc5UVQ2b0FBQU5n&source=dealnews
Men's Sports Diving Watch,50m Waterproof w/ EL Backlit/ Days / Alarm Clock / Stopwatch
Material: Stainless steel (back of case) + Alloy housing + Rubber watchband
Analogue and digital dual time zone displays sport diving watch
Digits display with blue EL backlight (date and time including sec. display)
12/24 hour format (selectable)
Features: pointer & digit display /Alarm clock / chime / stopwatch (1/100s)
50 meters waterproof (do not press any buttons in water)
Water resistant
Dial Diameter: 5cm
Wristband Length: 20.5cm
Powered by 1 x CR2016 battery (for digit display) &1 x SR626SW battery (for pointer display) (included)
Dimensions: 8.07 in x 1.97 in x 0.79 in (20.5 cm x5.0 cm x 2.0 cm)
Net Weight: 0.146 lb (66 g)
Gross Weight: 0.22 lb (102 g)

Sad part is it will probably work longer and be more accurate.



Not trying to pick a fight, but what does the watch you mentioned have in comparison to the watch being sold here? I can't imagine anyone considering the watch being sold on Woot would be swayed by the item you listed. The style isn't even in the same ballpark. Anyone looking at the watch woot is selling is doing so because of the "look" of the watch.

nematheydary


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Certainly makes me feel like you're trying to misrepresent the quality of the watch.


nmpls wrote:*Cough*
http://www.amazon.com/Invicta-1846-Mechanical-Skeleton-Polyurethane/dp/B006DHZS1U

Not saying $70 off isn't a good deal, but this isn't a $1000 watch.



[MOD: *cough* They have the same list price as we show though.]



dbnkrn


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Invicta makes quality watches. The prices are, however, inflated. This watch would never go for a thousand dollars. Given this fact, 89.00 is a reasonable deal. These watches look good, keep accurate time, are solidly constructed. I'm not sure about this particular watch but many Invictas have very large watch faces. It would be nice to have an image of this watch connected to someone's wrist to provide perspective on the size of the watch face.

jiggersgreen


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bookofjoshua wrote:Nice catch, either that or, they were put together upside down.....


It's because Russia is on the opposite side of the world.

greysoul


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nmpls wrote:*Cough*
http://www.amazon.com/Invicta-1846-Mechanical-Skeleton-Polyurethane/dp/B006DHZS1U

Not saying $70 off isn't a good deal, but this isn't a $1000 watch.



[MOD: *cough* They have the same list price as we show though.]



woot = amazon = woot. Your argument is invalid.

Has Amazon ever generated sales within 10% of the list price? Does any retailer offer this watch at list price? Do they generate sales? (I know you don't know the answer, it's all rhetorical)

I've always trusted woot to be a reliable deal, not schemey mall jewelry pitchers.

This dealkind of makes me sad

bcc423


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The wind is on the left side because Russians typically wear watches on the right wrist, they also wear wedding rings on the right ring finger.

ThunderThighs


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greysoul wrote:woot = amazon = woot. Your argument is invalid.

Has Amazon ever generated sales within 10% of the list price? Does any retailer offer this watch at list price? Do they generate sales? (I know you don't know the answer, it's all rhetorical)

I've always trusted woot to be a reliable deal, not schemey mall jewelry pitchers.

This dealkind of makes me sad

Eh, we've been selling watches, including Invictas with their marked-up MSRPs, for years. No need to get any more sad now. I'm sure their list prices will still be marked up high next year too.



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dliidlii wrote:
Sad part is it will probably work longer and be more accurate.



Realistically, pretty much any quartz movement watch is likely to work longer and be more accurate than any mechanical watch, even really expensive ones; keeping time using mechanical mechanisms is a really bad way to do it if you want accuracy or trouble free operation. However people don't buy mechanical watches for millisecond accuracy or longevity vs. your $2 Swatch with the neon green plastic band, (which apparently they're selling again).

kurahee


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Folks,
A few things I've I'm going to respond to.

First the crown being on the left. Believe me, if you are right handed and normally wear a watch on your left wrist, you WANT the crown on the left side of the watch. This keeps the crown from digging into your wrist where your hand and wrist meet. I have a couple of "lefties

sdc100


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mboverload wrote:What is that chain? It's not addressed in the description.



Russian diver watches have a screw-on cap over the stem so that water won't seep in. The chain holds onto the cap so that you won't lose it.

sdc100


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mkmiller wrote:Serious question woot. All of them say mechanical wind except the silver one. Is that the case or it the only one that is truly self winding (kinetic)?



Please note that Self-Winding watches are known as Automatic, not Kinetic. Automatic watches use a rotating weight to wind the spring. The timekeeping movement itself is mechanical and relies completely on gears. Kinetic watches use the rotating weight to turn a generator. The generator charges a battery or capacitor which powers a quartz movement. Kinetic watches are much more accurate and you don't need to wear the watch every two days to power it. The best ones can actually store enough energy to maintain time for 6 months without any movement in Hibernation mode. Seiko makes a whole line of kinetic watches.

KINETIC movement


AUTOMATIC (SELF-WINDING) MOVEMENT

levintblack


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I own an Invicta watch (0572 II watch) and it is a good watch for the $100 price range. It is not anywhere near the $300 and up price range in quality however so don't be mislead by the MSRP. I own a few other watches (a bit of a collector) and my Citizen watch is of better quality ($475 watch).

My Invicta watch, while the same size, is roughly 2/3's the weight of the Citizen because it is made of cheaper material. It's colors are plated on and do flake off over time.

Again, for the $100 watch price range Invicta's are of good quality but don't think you are getting a phenomenal deal. This is a good deal on a watch you would have to spend $150 on elsewhere. That's still close to 50% off.

djcubinlinx


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compoundbreak791 wrote:This really would make the watch ideal for person who wears time pieces on their right arm. Although I do wear my watch on my left, I would consider this a unique one, especially because I have already bought this item prior to noticing it this detail.



Incorrect, the fact that the knob on the left is better for people that wear this on their left side. Due to the 47mm size, the knob would be digging into your wrist. I have a 52 mm uboat and there is no way I'm wearing the watch with the knob pointing into my wrist. After 15 minutes, you will have an impression from the knob. Hope this helps

hroen


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werdwerdus wrote:yes it is. It's a mechanical wind-up driven watch, that chain attaches to to cap so you don't lose it



Attaching a cap to a chain seems to make much less secure a watch. The chain could inadvertantly catch on something, yank out and do some damage to the watch and/or your wrist.

Harris Roen

mechanicsc


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For what it's worth, I have owned two Invictas and they were both pieces of garbage that had problems within 6 months of purchase. Warranty claims were ignored. I'll never buy one of their watches again.

sdc100


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ewidener21 wrote:I've been looking for a nice looking mechanical skeleton watch for a while now. Good thing I'm left-handed, makes this an added bonus, in for one!



If you want to attract attention, you might want to get one with a Bridge skeleton movement. The unique minimalist bar design leaves about 60-70% of the watch empty so that you can literally see your wrist. I have several skeleton watches and the one that receives the most compliment is also the cheapest, my Steinhausen Bridge Pont De Pure Watch (TW1101S). Although it uses a cheap Chinese bridge, it has kept accurate time for 4 days (the longest I wear any single watch). It's available for $479.95, but 1saleaday often sells it for $59 (free s/h). One of the interesting things about the Steinhausen is that there are crystals on the edge of the weight. When it rotates and the light is right, the thing sparkles with movement.

There are many other Bridge watches, including ones using the same cheap movement. But I've never found another for $59. Here are some on Amazon.

I really like all M. Johansson watches but they're only available in Europe. You can't even find them on eBay. Amazingly, the below model is only $79US, even though it looks like it costs several thousand.

The most amazing bridge watches are made by Corum, including this $24,705 watch on Amazon. Read the amusing reviews.

CHEAP STEINHAUSEN


M. JOHANSSON


CORUM BRIDGE

flamespear


quality posts: 4 Private Messages flamespear

I'm having a breakdown trying to choose a color. I like the black but i don't like the white print on the face so much. I like the gold because it really shows the gears off well...but it seems too flashy and it just an imitation since it's only plated so it makes me feel like it's cheap and flashy....I like the silver too...but i just don't knoooooww.

radi0j0hn


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I have a simple rule for watches: if I am driving or busy, can I quickly glance at my dial and find out what time it is? I'm so old-fashioned.

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pupyluvr


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Wow... a real Russian Diver Watch?

How much Vodka does it hold?

radi0j0hn


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bcc423 wrote:they also wear wedding rings on the right ring finger.




So that's why Natasha turned me down at the bar...thanks.

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coolbluelb


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You know, I wouldn't mind some decent automatic watches at some great prices... Hint, hint Woot...

kingsman39


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I've owned Russian watches that had similarly oversized crown on the right side. If you bend you wrist back at a 90 degree angle, that thing would dig into the top of your hand.