mustbechris wrote:Thank you for the sanity your comment contains. I really can't stand when people get all uppity when guitars are being sold on Woot and decide they need to trash a product without having any firsthand knowledge of it. If I had a kid who was learning guitar, I would absolutely go this route for the sake of getting him something that isn't a Squier Strat. Everyone starts on bright red Squier Strats. There's novelty to me in having something different from what all your friends have. The fact that an amp comes with it, even if it's crap (read: FOR BEGINNERS, with a simple knob selection, to learn on - NOT to go on tour with) makes life that much easier, particularly for parents who don't have experience with musical instruments and don't have any idea what direction to go when their kid is showing interest and they need something to put under the tree.
So please, don't trash it just because you assume it's no good, and please, don't be scared away by its cheap price or its name. If you're considering this deal, then it's not like you're looking for Gibsons and Marshalls in the first place. If I had to choose between a First Act pack from Wal Mart for $99, this for $99 (or $49 or $79!), or a Squier Bullet Strat from Guitar Center - without an amp - for $129, I'd go with this Peavey deal in a heartbeat.
Besides, how cool does it look? I'd totally buy something like that for myself if I saw a higher end guitar that looks like it.
Then you would be making a mistake except for you opinion on Walmarts First Act line. That would certainly much worse that the Peaveys offerd here. Fender Squire is not my first choice but it is better than any one of these Peavey's offered here. Other and better choices would include but certainly not be limited to Epiphone, Ibanez, and many others. Also, don't be taken by the advertised body made of Basswood. It is in fact used because it is very affordable, one of the most prevalent woods found in the USA and has nothing to do with sound. For sound wood such as Ash and others are used and found on more expensive and not starter guitars. When saving money on the body material then the upside would be better pickups, wiring and most of all, quality neck work. Of course a beginner is not going to start out on a USA made Fender, Gibson, etc., unless he/she is the son/daughter of "daddy Bigbucks"! The same would hold true when it comes to amps, so yes, Marshalls would be out of the question also.
You state, "I really can't stand when people get all uppity when guitars are being sold on Woot and decide they need to trash a product without having any firsthand knowledge of it". Well I do have first hand knowledge. I am over 60 years old and have been playing since I was 15. I worked in a music store (6 years) part time every Christmas season starting back in the early 70's. I have also instructed many over the years on the instrument. The student I am most proud of is my son who is an active and recorded musician. If you really took time to read my post you would have seen not only did I give Peavey accolades on equipment but also stated I am a Peavey owner. So, I qualify as a first hand experienced musician. My remarks are not made to degrade anyone but to try to help the first time buyer do the very best they can and the lowest possible cost. With that said, one of the brands I mentioned in the (discounted $150 or so range would be a better choice BY FAR that the Peaveys offered here. And, as far as an Amp, that is where you can really rack up on the used market. Fist thing, anything under 15W is not going to be pleasing to the new guitarist, at all, after he/she gets a good start. Like, 6mos or so. Careful shopping can get you a good "used' amp in the 20w and above range, with some effects like reverb for not more than $50 to $100 tops.
I hate to see people discouraged and especially young people wanting to learn. My opinions are not looking down the nose but trying my best to give them the best start they can have and Mom & Dad, or whomever, not throwing away money. A few bucks well spent is much better than even pennys thrown away. Lastly, the instruments I have mentioned will last for some years and when the student wants to move up, they can actually get a few bucks for what they have.
I stand by my original post as I do this one. They were made in good faith to be helpful as it makes no monetary difference to me what a buyer decides.