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Is there anything in the gameosphere (a word I just made up) that is more annoying than a holier-than-thou PC gamer? You can't have a discussion about a multi-platform game or the shortcomings of a console without some jerk breezing in and exclaiming the superiority of the PC PLATFORM. "Oh, [great game] is being released for PS3? It was pretty fun three years ago when I was playing the beta on my PERSONAL COMPUTER." Console gamers usually just ignore these comments and go on with their lives, but that doesn't stop the PC Gamer from always trying to derail any conversation that has to do with games. "Ha! Those supposed 'good' graphics look like what I was getting five years ago lol lol," is something they would say. You see, owning a gaming PC is a lot like only watching PBS: sure, it might be technically superior, but no one cares.

But really, that was the old me talking there. Because now I have a gaming PC and it has opened my eyes to a whole fantastic world of gaming and snobbery, two things I hold dearest. Growing up, we always had Macs. It was a good feeling, having a Mac, especially when I would go to my friends' houses and watch them do a bunch of command line nonsense to start up their word processor. "Oh really?" I would say, crossing my arms and looking down my nose, "on my dad's MACINTOSH you just use the mouse and click on everything!"

And that was a good feeling. But time marched on and I would go over to a friend's house and he'd drop in a floppy and A:/RUN it or whatever savagery was required, and a game would pop up. "Oh snap!" I would say, although I probably didn't say that in 1990, but the sentiment was the same. My love of gaming was pulling me away from my love of feeling superior. After watching my friend play some awesome PC game for a few hours, I'd go home and play some crappy shareware HyperCard game and lie to myself about it. I carried this lie with me until I got a PC in 2003. And now, 10 years later, I have a PC specifically for gaming. And I feel like a whole lifetime of lost gaming is trying to catch up to me.
 

"Just... shut up, both of you."


But this Game Fight! isn't about PC vs. Mac, because that would be stupid. No, this is about console versus PC. I have always been a console gamer. Stubbornly so. Sometimes to a fault. I almost didn't buy The Orange Box because I am a big dumb idiot who didn't want to play a PC game on a console just because it was a PC game first. Idiot! Half-Life 2 is so good. I am glad I played it on my Xbox, but it's even better on MY PC D00DS. I admit it, I am totally in love with this PC scene. It helps that I came into it over the Steam holiday sale. I bought more games for the PC over that sale than I bought all last year for my consoles. And I didn't even buy games that I was necessarily interested in, I bought games that struck my fancy at the time because they seemed like they might hold my interest and also because they were 75% off.

I bought the THQ Tantalizing bundle on Amazon for eleven bucks just so I could play Metro 2033. I'll probably never play the rest of the games in the bundle, but who cares? I got the latest Humble Indie Bundle because everyone should, and also because I am flying on a magic carpet of games, doing loop-de-loops through rainbows of high graphical fidelity and my desire to consume has been turbo-charged. Steam has sales all the time, and it's so brilliant, because I end up having too many choices now, so I don't even install the games more than half the time. My Steam library, even at this young stage, is already getting too full. It's like going to a fancy salsa place, where they have 48 varieties of salsa. That's too many, but you can't complain about it because it's salsa. Who doesn't love a good salsa? (Other than Hitler).

So now that I've gone on and on, I guess I should do a comparison between PC and consoles and determine a winner, as is the spirit of this column. Consoles are great because they are in your living room, hooked to you big TV, and they have wireless controllers and local multi-player and they play Netflix and Amazon and movies and cost not a lot of money. When it comes to PCs, you... well, you can also hook them up to you TV in your living room. Most graphics cards have an HDMI port now, and at the very least you can use the VGA jack on the back of your HDTV (it's there, trust me. No, no, don't look. I'm telling you, it's back there. Just-- just sit down! Geez.)

And then you can do all the stuff consoles can do, like watch Netflix and Amazon and Crackle, only you need to navigate through Windows to do it, like you would on any other computer. But, who cares? You can put Steam in Big Screen mode and pretend you live in the future and have a Steambox and use it to scroll through all those games you never installed on your way to playing hour 986 of Civ V. A decent PC is going to cost you more than a console, and it's probably going to give you a million more headaches when something fails. But don't think of them as headaches, think of them as learning experiences, and then you can learn from them. Take what you've learned and charge other people to fix their computers and your PC has just paid for itself!

If there's one thing PC gaming has and always will have over consoles, it's the smug sense of superiority that comes with owning one. Suddenly every insufferable internet forum is filled with your like-minded peers. A PC is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up.



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bsmith1


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I just think it's funny when PC gamers have to upgrade their machines to play new games. You'll see 'em in the woot forums asking if the PC for sale is good enough to run some specific game. "oh, you'll need to upgrade the RAM and drop a new video card in there and it'll be a decent machine"... Don't even get me started on how much "gaming" PCs cost...holy geeze.... You can buy a console AND a normal PC for half the price of a specialized gaming rig.
On the flip side, you know a console game will always work in the console it's designed for. Console gaming puts everyone on a level playing field. You don't have to compete against people who have super modded machines or people that have tampered with the game code to cheat. It's a lot harder to cheat on consoles because you can't just open the game's files on the same machine you play the game on and change things to your liking. PC gamers also have way too many controller options...keyboard, controller, mouse, some weird keypad thing with programmable macros... Again, some people will have an unfair advantage because they have different hardware. Sure, there are some console controllers with special buttons, but not nearly the variety and prevalence as in the PC gaming community. Can you imagine trying to fight someone in Mortal Combat who has all the moves programmed into 1 key shortcuts/macros? How is that fair?

To summarize, PC gaming is only for people with too much money who rely on having better hardware to give them an advantage over the competition rather than relying on their own skills. Console gaming roolz!

kanedax


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I'm with bsmith on this one. Price is my primary point when it comes to gaming, and the price of gaming PCs, especially considering the constant need to upgrade, is gigantic. I bought both a 360 and a PS3 and still paid less combined than I would for the cheapest gaming PC listed on Amazon.

The consoles are catching up on the cost of games, as well. Their online stores are getting larger every day, and the used game market allows you to pick up anything you want without having to worry about "downgrading" your system (an issue I've had in the past with classic PC games).

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davidrools


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PC MASTER RACE!

Seriously, though, I have all the consoles but my PCs gets the most (or all) of my attention. Gaming PCs don't need cost a huge amount of money. A decent Core i3 machine with 4GB of ram and a $100 video card will run pretty much any new game quite well. Then the games themselves generally cost at least $10 less per title, not to mention the awesome Steam sales and humble bundles.

If you're going to have a PC anyway, a small upgrade in graphics can make it a decent gaming PC. Mouse & keyboard is far superior for RTS and FPS games, and you can still use an xbox controller w/ a PC for everything else! (works great for the living room PC, too)

I understand why some people prefer the simplicity of consoles. But the downsides of PCs are becoming fewer by the day. The idea that PCs cost thousands of dollars is because PC gamers get really into it and are happy to spend that kind of money to create the most extreme experience possible, but you don't have to.

RWoodward


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If you have an X-Box it's basically just a PC anyway. As PCs got more "living room friendly" and consoles added capabilities like online content and hard drives the line blurred to near insignificance. In the future there will be even less difference as tablets and smartphones continue to add more and more PC level capabilities. One device will become the ultimate multitasker, doing every job needed depending where you dock it.

KaylaKaze


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You can fix a gaming PC if something breaks. I have a 360 laying in pieces as a testament that you can't do that with consoles (it's been repaired several times, but now it's beyond fixing).

I have a PC that didn't cost much more than a console to build.

I hate competitive multiplayer games, so I don't care about "the competition".

Also, console game multiplayer is hacked much more often than PC because the console servers expect the client to be secure, while PC servers know that the client could be hacked and protect against it.

And you could have the same "always runs" guarantee on PCs too, if you wanted to have hardware monopolies, locked down OSes, and not push technological boundaries.

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bsmith1 wrote:I just think it's funny when PC gamers have to upgrade their machines to play new games. You'll see 'em in the woot forums asking if the PC for sale is good enough to run some specific game. "oh, you'll need to upgrade the RAM and drop a new video card in there and it'll be a decent machine"... Don't even get me started on how much "gaming" PCs cost...holy geeze.... You can buy a console AND a normal PC for half the price of a specialized gaming rig.
On the flip side, you know a console game will always work in the console it's designed for. Console gaming puts everyone on a level playing field. You don't have to compete against people who have super modded machines or people that have tampered with the game code to cheat. It's a lot harder to cheat on consoles because you can't just open the game's files on the same machine you play the game on and change things to your liking. PC gamers also have way too many controller options...keyboard, controller, mouse, some weird keypad thing with programmable macros... Again, some people will have an unfair advantage because they have different hardware. Sure, there are some console controllers with special buttons, but not nearly the variety and prevalence as in the PC gaming community. Can you imagine trying to fight someone in Mortal Combat who has all the moves programmed into 1 key shortcuts/macros? How is that fair?

To summarize, PC gaming is only for people with too much money who rely on having better hardware to give them an advantage over the competition rather than relying on their own skills. Console gaming roolz!



Pretty closedminded post for a number of reasons (I'm paraphrasing):
"A good gaming is much more expensive than a console."
What's a "good" gaming rig to you? Newegg for example had a desktop computer combo with all the parts needed to build a computer, san graphics card, for about 330 usd shipped. You can buy a graphics card that can run 99% of games out there for 100 usd.Of course people focus on the 200~300 usd cards, which will run virtually any game as well, but the people who buy those want to max out any game they play. Modern consoles are on a graphical level of low or medium quality pc games, at at resolutions sometimes not even natively at 1280x720. (New PS4, XBOX720, ect can always change the scene.) This doesn't go to mention, like the article, the vast price difference between PC and console game prices. If you only take a look at Dell Alienware PCs or something like that, you're only getting a very narrow view of PC price/performance. There are countless number of PC forums and help centers that can guide you to knowing more about why people are so preachy in favor of PCs. We/they may seem sometimes smug or holier-than-thou of our views but it's just an alternate way of gaming that's livening up how stale consoles can be. Oh and PS the talk of upgrading PCs happens just as often as people upgrade consoles.

Moueska


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I'm clearly one of them uppity PC persons.

I barely get to play my Wii. ;_; And right now it's unhooked, anyway.

Moueska


quality posts: 54 Private Messages Moueska

OH, OH, OH!!!

If I'm TOTALLY STOKED about the potential of a STEAM console (in line with PC games) - does that make me a Potential Console gamer? Or does that mean that I'm stoked about a PC that lacks the option of MS Word?

(/unfashionable words)

truefire7


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I'm a PC gamer, but not by choice. I have a disability that prevents me from using traditional console controllers, but I can use my KB, mouse, and X-arcade just fine.

I'd rather be a console gamer almost, just so I could pwn more of my friends in FPS games and such. PC gaming is somewhat solitary, unless you have other friends who game on the PC often. I do have some, but there's always going to be more people on consoles.

I build my own machines though, which is fun, and it actually does end up cheaper than a console in the end. There's more game deals, and instead of building a whole new machine when the next gen is released, just get a new $150 graphics card, and you're good to go. Graphics on the PC versions is always way better too. I don't spend a ton - my base build is still a Core 2 Duo, and yes, it plays Cryis, and Crysis 2, on high.

Btw: I do have, and always will have, a console or three around. I bought an Xbox 360, Wii, and a few Dreamcasts back in the day for my family. I wish there were more titles for the Kinect


Tl;Dr: Building PC's is fun, and can be cheaper. Don't take for granted that you have the choice

RailgunTherapy


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I started with a pretty long point by point analysis on how & why my PC can do everything my xbox can do, plus a dozen other things that are necessary in my life. But that's boring.

PC ultimately wins for one simple reason: Mods. There's an unbelievable amount of amazing mods that make games more enjoyable... from total conversions to Randy Savage Dragons.

There are lots of little things that go one way or the other, but I NEVER buy a game for the xbox if it has a decent mod community.

phooka13


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+1 PC

cappo


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I've played computer games since before the NES, and I haven't bought a console since the N64.

I don't really have anything against consoles per se, but I need a PC anyway and I don't have the extra money to blow on a console and it's games too.

However, if snobbery is somehow required, I will say I often lean towards games that don't work well on consoles.

Civ V yes, which has so many user-made mods for it now it's never the same game twice. The MechWarrior and MechCommander games. (The console version, MechAssault, was an abomination.) Other 4X games like the Master of Orion series and similar games. A couple MMORGS like City of Heroes and Star Trek Online.

But I still enjoy going retro with some NES/SNES games now and then.

Of course, if someone wanted to give me a modern console, I'd take it. I just can't justify buying one.


cappo


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Also, my computer monitor is bigger than my living room TV. Who wants to game on a 19 inch CRT TV when you have a 25.5 inch widescreen monitor?

My PC is my whole entertainment system. Games, DVDs, streaming, whatever. I rarely watch the television anymore.


caffeine_dude


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+1 PC
http://www.rahulsood.com/2010/07/console-gamers-get-killed-against-pc.html
But I am trying to give up FPS for Rocksmith.

Please don't delete this post, I am trying, honest!

sellbuyer92


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caffeine_dude wrote:+1 PC
http://www.rahulsood.com/2010/07/console-gamers-get-killed-against-pc.html
But I am trying to give up FPS for Rocksmith.



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89titanium


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My gaming PC is hooked up to my 55" TV, and I play from my couch with a wireless Xbox360 controller. Life is good....

Btw, to people saying they see PC gamers always asking if a card is good eough for a specific game, that's because PC games are always getting capable of better graphics, and PC gamers want to maximize this. My ~$200 card from 6 years ago can RUN any modern game, but it will have to be on medium settings and at 720p (typical console quality). This is unacceptable to us!

Steam sales alone make PC gaming cheaper anyway, and then there's Humble Bundles.

abelx17


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The article is well done, but I feel as if some of the people commenting here are a bit closed-minded about the subject matter.