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LifeSmart Heater or Fireplace
$49.99 + $5 Standard Shipping
Condition: New

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How many HDMI inputs does this have?

;)

Heater has some pretty good reviews (3.5 star/44) on Amazon

Amazon shows the fireplace as "Lifesmart Dual Mount 800 Square Foot"

So which is it? 800 or 1000?

Home Depot also states 800.

"The new Lifesmart Wall Hanging Infrared Fireplace is Picture Perfect. This unique picture frame fireplace is also a powerful infrared heater rated to heat a room up to 800 square feet."

http://www.homedepot.com/buy/lifesmart-multi-function-infared-fireplace-1500-watt-infrared-wall-portable-heater-fireplace-with-tv-stand-dual-mount-and-remote-l-ef450-combo.html


[MOD: Per the box, it is 1000 sq ft.]

Can the heater be plugged into a regular old outlet timer to heat up the room when I'm not there? Is it's amperage to high or does that not matter for timers?

I don't quite get the "three element" deal. If it has only two wattage outputs, why three elements?

OK, cool to the touch is good for the cats, but my concern is, how easy would it be for them to tip it over? I'm using a tower style heater now that has a pretty wide base and they still manage to knock it over. Also, mine has a shut of switch so if it is knocked over, it doesn't keep running and pose a fire hazard. Anyone know if this happens to have that? I don't trust my little balls of fur not to try knocking this over the first chance they get, lol

doomtothee wrote:Can the heater be plugged into a regular old outlet timer to heat up the room when I'm not there? Is it's amperage to high or does that not matter for timers?

At 1500 watts, the unit will draw about 12 amps. Check the rating on your timer.

pretty good (4.3 out of 5.0) reviews on the heater over at tigerdirect

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2759260

If it were a Television that pulled double dooty as a wall mounted space heater then it would be super cool.

baybei wrote:OK, cool to the touch is good for the cats, but my concern is, how easy would it be for them to tip it over? I'm using a tower style heater now that has a pretty wide base and they still manage to knock it over. Also, mine has a shut of switch so if it is knocked over, it doesn't keep running and pose a fire hazard. Anyone know if this happens to have that? I don't trust my little balls of fur not to try knocking this over the first chance they get, lol

I don't see a reference to it in the user manual beyond overheat protection. So I guess once it's on fire, it will turn off.

http://lifesmartproducts.com/images//manuals/fireplaces/LS-EF450_Manual.pdf

They also say "Please be cautious if you are set on mounting the heater low to the floor, as it may become a safety hazard to children and pets!"

It does in fact have a sensor that shuts it off when knocked over, I got one from tigerdirect, and it arrived faulty sadly. The fan wouldn't turn on and it would just shut after about 45 seconds of being on and overheating. So I can't speak of it's effectiveness.

doomtothee wrote:Can the heater be plugged into a regular old outlet timer to heat up the room when I'm not there? Is it's amperage to high or does that not matter for timers?

From my own research two months ago heaters, (like these two) that are digital instead of, "plug and play" will not function with a timer. I have a plug and play lifesmart model L-SIFST-S, that works well with a Lux WIN100 for keeping the temperature where I want it at different times, (day or night) plus it shuts down the power to the unit completely. You could use a heave duty timer like an Intermatic TN311 with plug and play heaters but there would be no thermostatic control with a regular timer.

pupyluvr wrote:If it were a Television that pulled double dooty as a wall mounted space heater then it would be super cool.

They call those tube televisions. Society decided that those were no longer efficient enough. ;-)

Amazon shows the fireplace as "Lifesmart Dual Mount 800 Square Foot"

So which is it? 800 or 1000?

Home Depot also states 800.

"The new Lifesmart Wall Hanging Infrared Fireplace is Picture Perfect. This unique picture frame fireplace is also a powerful infrared heater rated to heat a room up to 800 square feet."

http://www.homedepot.com/buy/lifesmart-multi-function-infared-fireplace-1500-watt-infrared-wall-portable-heater-fireplace-with-tv-stand-dual-mount-and-remote-l-ef450-combo.html


[MOD: This was the information we had from the vendor. We will contact them in the morning to double check the specs. That information isn't available on the LifeSmart site.]

My guess is one is based off a 8 ft. ceiling and the other off a 10 ft. ceiling. Since it is a square ft. rating but they actually have to rate off a cubic ft. rating. A Square ft. rating is more relate-able for the consumer because it is often known information.

e.g.: Cubic ft. of (10ft. x 10ft.) with an 8 ft. ceiling is the same cubic ft. as a (10ft x 8ft.) with a 10 ft. ceiling.

Just a possible guess?

wow that's an amazing price on the fireplace, especially pinned against home depot which would be roughly 60%~ off...it's even 33%~ cheaper than the mothership.

it's amazing that i was JUST looking to buy something like this too...when my fingers get cold playing my piano becomes a painful endeavor.

question though, i remember woot selling one a few days ago that was actually able to only display the flames with the heat off, just for show. is this heater capable of doing this...say, if it's a warm summer night but i just want the fake fire to look at?

if not, can anyone point me to that particular model which can? thanks :D

engelwood39 wrote:Amazon shows the fireplace as "Lifesmart Dual Mount 800 Square Foot"

So which is it? 800 or 1000?

Home Depot also states 800.

"The new Lifesmart Wall Hanging Infrared Fireplace is Picture Perfect. This unique picture frame fireplace is also a powerful infrared heater rated to heat a room up to 800 square feet."

http://www.homedepot.com/buy/lifesmart-multi-function-infared-fireplace-1500-watt-infrared-wall-portable-heater-fireplace-with-tv-stand-dual-mount-and-remote-l-ef450-combo.html


[MOD: This was the information we had from the vendor. We will contact them in the morning to double check the specs. That information isn't available on the LifeSmart site.]

My guess is one is based off a 8 ft. ceiling and the other off a 10 ft. ceiling. Since it is a square ft. rating but they actually have to rate off a cubic ft. rating. A Square ft. rating is more relate-able for the consumer because it is often known information.

e.g.: Cubic ft. of (10ft. x 10ft.) with an 8 ft. ceiling is the same cubic ft. as a (10ft x 8ft.) with a 10 ft. ceiling.

Just a possible guess?

Let's just call it 900 and call it a night.

engelwood39 wrote:Amazon shows the fireplace as "Lifesmart Dual Mount 800 Square Foot"

So which is it? 800 or 1000?

Home Depot also states 800.

The amount of area a space heater can reasonably heat is affected by many factors such as how well insulated a room is, if a fan used to help distribute the heat, and how cold it gets outside. If you live someplace like California where the outside temp doesn't get much below 40 or 50 for the most part, you can heat a lot more space than you would further north where sub freezing temps even during the day is common. For example I use another Lifesmart model with the same heat rating with a tower fan to circulate the air better in north central Montana in a room space that is roughly 500-550 sq feet with average insulation. It will keep the room comfortable without needing the furnace to kick in until the outside temp is near 0F or lower. Keep in mind these heaters are not intended to replace a dedicated full house furnace.

pupyluvr wrote:If it were a Television that pulled double dooty as a wall mounted space heater then it would be super cool.

You are looking for a plasma tv I believe...

prttymf8 wrote:Amazon shows the fireplace as "Lifesmart Dual Mount 800 Square Foot"

So which is it? 800 or 1000?

Home Depot also states 800.

"The new Lifesmart Wall Hanging Infrared Fireplace is Picture Perfect. This unique picture frame fireplace is also a powerful infrared heater rated to heat a room up to 800 square feet."

http://www.homedepot.com/buy/lifesmart-multi-function-infared-fireplace-1500-watt-infrared-wall-portable-heater-fireplace-with-tv-stand-dual-mount-and-remote-l-ef450-combo.html


[MOD: This was the information we had from the vendor. Amazon actually has it both ways. We will contact the vendor in the morning to double check the specs. That information isn't available on the LifeSmart site.]

There's two models the LS-EF450 which is 1000 square feet and the one on Woot which is listed under specs as L-EF450 which is 800 square feet. But is the one on woot really the LS-EF450? Hmmmm

I poop too much, and therefore spend alot of time on the pooper. My preferred bathroom is a bit roomy, plenty of elbow room, about a 12x18x8. This is part of an addition to the house and the current furnace doesn't quite throw enough gusto out, I understand this heater would be sufficient in keeping this room warm but would it be enough to keep my porcelain warm as well? I'm absolutely tired of shivering on a cold seat while I'm taking care of business. As of now, I've placed each one of the ends of the seat inside a tube sock, which does help somewhat but still, the back of the seat is awfully chilly when my plump hiney goes past the socks. Any input is appreciated.

Should have said "Well, guess what, lukewarm nudists? LifeSmart just called your BUFF."

Mike

pupyluvr wrote:If it were a Television that pulled double dooty as a wall mounted space heater then it would be super cool.

hah hah...how can a heater be cool?

jfragland76 wrote:I poop too much, and therefore spend alot of time on the pooper. My preferred bathroom is a bit roomy, plenty of elbow room, about a 12x18x8. This is part of an addition to the house and the current furnace doesn't quite throw enough gusto out, I understand this heater would be sufficient in keeping this room warm but would it be enough to keep my porcelain warm as well? I'm absolutely tired of shivering on a cold seat while I'm taking care of business. As of now, I've placed each one of the ends of the seat inside a tube sock, which does help somewhat but still, the back of the seat is awfully chilly when my plump hiney goes past the socks. Any input is appreciated.

Thanks for, ah, sharing.

Next he's going to post that on the tub sock forum.

Mike

pupyluvr wrote:If it were a Television that pulled double dooty as a wall mounted space heater then it would be super cool.

But all you need for that is a plasma TV. Mine does does a great job at both. ;P

I'm afraid the Lifesmart LS-EF450 fireplace manual/owner's guide doesn't provide much in the way of direct answers to a few of the questons raised.

It seems the control instructions are basic:

• Press O/I button once to turn on the heat and fire effect. The LED lights will light up to indicate that it is ON.

• Press the 750W button once for the low heat settings; press twice to switch off this heat setting.

• Press the 1500W button once for the high heat settings; press twice to switch off this heat setting.

The Amazon listing clearly states the L-EF450 Combo can be used without the heating elements.

"Enjoy the beauty of the flame and burning embers year round since the Dual Mount Heater can be used with or without the heating feature."

Seems no different from other space heaters according to wattage used and heat output..
I would be concerned about plastic panels and out gassing of petro chemicals...
Better off with something metal and built to last..

So here's what's probably a dumb question. Will an infrared heater keep my wife warm if all her "untamed human flesh" is unexposed under blankets at night or warm up a room while she's out of the house, or is really most effective if you're hanging around it like a sun lamp?

TigerDirect has it for $39.95 (after rebate) and free shipping!

That would depend not only on how much current this uses, but the power handling capabilities of your timer. How would anyone here know the second part?

doomtothee wrote:Can the heater be plugged into a regular old outlet timer to heat up the room when I'm not there? Is it's amperage to high or does that not matter for timers?

Any estimates available for annual energy costs?

A TV that gets only one channel and overheats. Pass.

jfragland76 wrote:I poop too much, and therefore spend alot of time on the pooper. My preferred bathroom is a bit roomy, plenty of elbow room, about a 12x18x8. This is part of an addition to the house and the current furnace doesn't quite throw enough gusto out, I understand this heater would be sufficient in keeping this room warm but would it be enough to keep my porcelain warm as well? I'm absolutely tired of shivering on a cold seat while I'm taking care of business. As of now, I've placed each one of the ends of the seat inside a tube sock, which does help somewhat but still, the back of the seat is awfully chilly when my plump hiney goes past the socks. Any input is appreciated.

Cool story bro.

whatawhiner wrote:So here's what's probably a dumb question. Will an infrared heater keep my wife warm if all her "untamed human flesh" is unexposed under blankets at night or warm up a room while she's out of the house, or is really most effective if you're hanging around it like a sun lamp?

An Infrared (IR) heater does not heat air, but heats objects. The IR generated will pass through the air, and will heat those blankets wrapped around your hunny. (presuming it is pointed in that general direction.) Those heated objects then heat the air that contact them, thereby making the room feel warm. IR is considered to be a much more efficient way to heat because of this.

What's the lag-time on woot shipping these days? My only fear is that this wouldn't arrive until Spring... which is a little too late for a heater.

rhycochet wrote:

question though, i remember woot selling one a few days ago that was actually able to only display the flames with the heat off, just for show. is this heater capable of doing this...say, if it's a warm summer night but i just want the fake fire to look at?

Yes -- It says this in the Woot description - "Fireplace setting can be used with or without the heat setting"