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HP 17.3" Dual-Core Notebook w/ Blu-ray

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lichme


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ThunderThighs


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lichme wrote:3.1 Star reviews from 14 ppl



Interesting. Of the few I scanned, most of the complaints were with Windows 8, not the hardware.



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conanthelibrarian


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A couple of good reviews (4.5 out of 5.0) over at amazon


pcspecialist


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My neighbor has this very computer and Windows 8 is his only complaint..... a MAJOR complaint at that.

taimeili


quality posts: 6 Private Messages taimeili

I had this laptop for about 6 month. Good build quality and blue ray is definitely a plus. Only complain is sometimes this thing gets hot and the fan runs like crazy. I assume AMD apu might be the reason.

luke975


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ThunderThighs wrote:Interesting. Of the few I scanned, most of the complaints were with Windows 8, not the hardware.



I noticed that too. But I don't see people buying this for 400 and loading windows 7 when it's a refurb and office depot was selling these new for 400 recently. just doesnt seem worth the price.

I always did like yardsales.

KrmtDfrog


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luke975 wrote:I noticed that too. But I don't see people buying this for 400 and loading windows 7 when it's a refurb and office depot was selling these new for 400 recently. just doesnt seem worth the price.



office depot was selling these new for 400 recently

well damn, wish i got one then

luke975


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KrmtDfrog wrote:office depot was selling these new for 400 recently

well damn, wish i got one then



not sure when it was being offered. but technology doesn't usually get more expensive with time


http://www.dealcatcher.com/laptops/hp-pavilion-g7-2246nr-17-3-laptop-w-amd-a6-4400m-cpu

I always did like yardsales.

whatsamattaU


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beekermartin


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I recently got a 17" HP third generation I3 from staples for @325 after rebate. It doesn't have a bluray drive which is all I wish it did have. I am waiting for a slickdeal on a laptop bluray drive to add it. Anyway, I will say that Windows 8 was nothing but a complete nightmare for me when I first got the laptop. I installed Start8 and that fixed all my major issues. It has a free 30 day trial then it is only $5 after that. Before I installed Start 8 I was going to return the laptop. Thats how much I hated Windows 8. With Start8 installed Windows 8 is usable for me. Well worth the $5.

With all that crap said this looks like a solid deal for a high resolution 17" laptop with a bluray drive included. If I hadn't picked up the i3 last month I would have jumped on this.

nscharf


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Some people are just plain silly. By nature we are afraid of change I guess, but spend 30 minutes with Win8 and you will be fine. It is just a fancy new start screen on top of Windows 7. As far as using an app to bring back the old start menu there is really no need to. Need something that you would normally go to the start menu for? Hit the windows key one time, start typing what it is that you are looking for, and bam done.

jennkenn2


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Windows 8 is the bane of my existence. I've had a Windows 8 laptop since January and I hate it. I would never inflict that kind of frustration on anyone.

QuantumRand


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Two things make this a pretty good buy: the 1600x900 display, and the Blu-ray drive.

I'll explain why.

On a 17-inch display, 1600x900 isn't going to give you as much detail as you'd find in a 1080p resolution, but it is a big step up from the usual 1366x768.

The higher resolution makes productivity much better since you actually have enough room for some multitasking (although Microsoft seems to have gone out of its way to make multitasking as inconvenient as possible on Windows 8).

The Blu-ray drive is kind of a self explanatory. A Blu-ray drive alone will generally tack on an extra $60+ to a laptop, and software to play Blu-rays will set you back another $60+. This laptop has both at an excellent price.


The rest of the hardware is fairly typical.

The A6-4400 isn't the speediest of processors, but it's more than enough for your general productivity and will even tackle most 3D games (so long as you turn the graphics way down).

As long as you don't mind the gamble of a refurb, this one is a great buy for anyone looking for something they can take with them on trips to get work done in the hotel room or kill some time with a movie.

You'll probably find it a bit large for something to lug back and forth to class/work every day, though.

gak0090


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This is the genius of HP. Take a very average laptop like this that has a very mediocre APU (at best), a typical 1600 x 900 display for a 17.3" in it, and throw in a blu-ray drive. Yet the similar HP model that has a screaming I7 and 1920x1080 resolution still comes with a regular DVD burner. Who da thunk.

jpelg


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Would never buy another HP laptop with AMD processor. HP does a crappy job of designing for heat dissipation. Or should I say doesn't design at all, because they basically shoehorn the same motherboards into multiple models with the variation being screensize, and bad heat sinks. The motherboards will fry in short order (usually right after your warranty expires). With only 90 days warranty on the refurb, forget it. Such planned failure is a sad commentary from a once awesome company (HP). If you value your laptop, get a true Intel mobile processor model.

catherinemcclarey


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QuantumRand wrote:Two things make this a pretty good buy: the 1600x900 display, and the Blu-ray drive.

I'll explain why.

On a 17-inch display, 1600x900 isn't going to give you as much detail as you'd find in a 1080p resolution, but it is a big step up from the usual 1366x768.

The higher resolution makes productivity much better since you actually have enough room for some multitasking (although Microsoft seems to have gone out of its way to make multitasking as inconvenient as possible on Windows 8).

The Blu-ray drive is kind of a self explanatory. A Blu-ray drive alone will generally tack on an extra $60+ to a laptop, and software to play Blu-rays will set you back another $60+. This laptop has both at an excellent price.


The rest of the hardware is fairly typical.

The A6-4400 isn't the speediest of processors, but it's more than enough for your general productivity and will even tackle most 3D games (so long as you turn the graphics way down).

As long as you don't mind the gamble of a refurb, this one is a great buy for anyone looking for something they can take with them on trips to get work done in the hotel room or kill some time with a movie.

You'll probably find it a bit large for something to lug back and forth to class/work every day, though.


What this person said; you took the words right out of my mouth!
@Jpelg, we replaced my oldest son's old laptop (a Gateway with an older AMD dual-core CPU) with an HP laptop with an AMD A8 a year ago, and he's had no complaints. We did buy it new from Best Buy, though, and paid for their Geek Squad extended warranty (and made sure it got covered under the computer insurance policy we'd gotten for our son's computers through State Farm). With a refurb, the Square Trade extended warranty would be essential.

rumblej


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I noticed that too. But I don't see people buying this for 400 and loading windows 7 when it's a refurb and office depot was selling these new for 400 recently. just doesnt seem worth the price.

Exactly woot I bought this same one new for $399 With Win 7 and put Win 8 on a partition so I have dual boot . Don't use the win 8 much . Only complaint : HP preloaded Crapware. Fixed that with a reinstall.

gak0090


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beekermartin wrote:I recently got a 17" HP third generation I3 from staples for @325 after rebate. It doesn't have a bluray drive which is all I wish it did have. I am waiting for a slickdeal on a laptop bluray drive to add it. Anyway, I will say that Windows 8 was nothing but a complete nightmare for me when I first got the laptop. I installed Start8 and that fixed all my major issues. It has a free 30 day trial then it is only $5 after that. Before I installed Start 8 I was going to return the laptop. Thats how much I hated Windows 8. With Start8 installed Windows 8 is usable for me. Well worth the $5.

With all that crap said this looks like a solid deal for a high resolution 17" laptop with a bluray drive included. If I hadn't picked up the i3 last month I would have jumped on this.



Hold -on Bub. If yours has an I3, it may have the i3-3110M which has a passmark of 3058 vs todays which has a passmark of 1624 (almost twice the performance). As far as video processing they are a dead heat. The intel HD4000 is 474 vs the HD-7520 at 471. Your deal is the better laptop. The link I have below is for a blu-ray that may fit your laptop for $77. You should be able to look up you laptop on this site to verify it, or email them.


http://www.mydvddrives.com/replacement-for-hp-pavilion-g7-2247us-bd-rre-blu-ray-drive-rewriter-burner-62550

These are not as hard as you think to switch out. If you feel weird about it, just find a friend that works on these. Here is a video that shows it with an HP DV6000 laptop. It could be very similar or slightly different from this video, but usually it's like 1 screw holding it in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQHOU-WJBWw

ayovich


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How will this run sims 3? I only use my laptop for office work and the occasional game of sims.

PenguinTheRed


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I bought an HP Pavilion that was featured a few weeks ago (the one with the horrible keyboard layout), and it's going to be my last refurb in general and my last HP in particular. Right off the bat it had issues shutting down for no reason and then not booting, which HP support says you resolve by disconnecting everything, yanking the battery, holding down the power button for a minute, and rebooting without the battery. Ok, fine, no problem to do once in a while, but twice a day?? Then just this morning, when even that didn't work, I opened it up and found one of the leads to the CPU wasn't soldered in place! I'm actually giddy with excitement wondering what's next down the road with this piece of crap.

But hey, at least it doesn't have Windows 8!!

tmf24556


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If it had Windows 7 I would probably buy it.

gak0090


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ayovich wrote:How will this run sims 3? I only use my laptop for office work and the occasional game of sims.



It should run fine.

bluemaple


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jpelg wrote:Would never buy another HP laptop with AMD processor. HP does a crappy job of designing for heat dissipation. Or should I say doesn't design at all, because they basically shoehorn the same motherboards into multiple models with the variation being screensize, and bad heat sinks. The motherboards will fry in short order (usually right after your warranty expires). With only 90 days warranty on the refurb, forget it. Such planned failure is a sad commentary from a once awesome company (HP). If you value your laptop, get a true Intel mobile processor model.



*HEAT*

That's why I resist the urge to buy any used laptop. The price &/or warranty had better be truly amazing to tempt me.

You have no way of knowing whether some clown has used the laptop on carpeting, a bed, or had it wake up inside their pack. Between the fuzzies clogging the vent & fan and prior overheats partially frying the motherboard - why take the risk for $0 - $75 savings?

[Please, no stories about how you've been buying used laptops for 10 years and they've been great. Perhaps you were lucky - carry on. A laptop is a critical tool and this risk-savings trade off is simply not worth it to me.]

gak0090


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If you don't care about the blu-ray, this is a better choice for $369 free ship.

The laptop below has a passmark 2721 vs todays woot which has a passmark of 1624 (67% higher performance). As far as video processing, the laptop below (HD-7640G) is 628 vs the HD-7520 at 471 (33% higher performance).




HP Pavilion g7-2275dx Notebook AMD A-Series A8-4500M(1.90GHz) 17.3" HD+ 4GB DDR3 Memory 640GB HDD 5400rpm DVD Super Multi AMD Radeon HD 7640G

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834256841&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL032913&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL032913-_-EMC-032913-Index-_-LaptopsNotebooks-_-34256841-L021A

Sparkstalker


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I bought an older version of this on Woot last year (http://www.woot.com/offers/hp-dual-core-notebook-w-blu-ray) with the older 3300 chip. For what it is, I'm pretty surprised at it. I use it mostly for photo editing (Lightroom 4 and PS Elements) and it does a decent job. I did make a few upgrades (replaced the HDD with an SSD and bumped it up to 8GB), and it's solid. I loaded XCOM: Enemy Unknown on it the other night, and it runs well.

The downside (as others have said) is heat. I just about burned myself with the hot air pumping out the side after playing. So I can't recommend gaming in your lap with it, unless you're into being cooked. But as a general use laptop for movies and other light/medium duty stuff, it's a good box.

thejazz


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Does anyone know if this computer would be powerful enough to run protools?

netactor


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nscharf wrote:Some people are just plain silly. By nature we are afraid of change I guess, but spend 30 minutes with Win8 and you will be fine. It is just a fancy new start screen on top of Windows 7. As far as using an app to bring back the old start menu there is really no need to. Need something that you would normally go to the start menu for? Hit the windows key one time, start typing what it is that you are looking for, and bam done.



What if you don't remember the name, what to type then?

ohyaok


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I am soooo glad I bought the Dell E5430 a couple weeks ago. I dislike anything HP. Just my limited experience.

bennyboy783


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Does anyone know if this has Windows 8 Pro on it? I need it to join a domain...

gak0090


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netactor wrote:What if you don't remember the name, what to type then?



This is free http://www.classicshell.net/

and it will make the desktop more like windows 7. I personally still despise windows 8 for anything but a touch device.

justazombie


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man... you had me until i read that dreadful statement "windows 8 preloaded".

jlvrt42


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Some people are just plain silly. By nature we are afraid of change I guess, but spend 30 minutes with Win8 and you will be fine. It is just a fancy new start screen on top of Windows 7. As far as using an app to bring back the old start menu there is really no need to. Need something that you would normally go to the start menu for? Hit the windows key one time, start typing what it is that you are looking for, and bam done.

I have to agree with you. I do desktop applications training (stuff like Excel and Access), so I suppose I have more opportunities to use it than most. But I have to say, I don't understand all the negatives about Win8. Sure, it's different...but so was Win7 when it was new. After a little time with it, I really like Win8...wouldn't go back to Win7. I would change some things if I could...but I don't want to go back.

wphughes1


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Windows 8 is the only reason I'm not buying two of these. Windows 9 (Blue) had better get full size multi tasking windows back; not to mention the start button.

colebeck


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The amount of hate for Win8 on here is kind of shocking. Either these people have never used it, or are resistant to change. The biggest complaint I read is the new Start screen instead of desktop with Start menu. People don't like booting straight to Start screen.
You can fix this with .2 seconds and 1 key. Hit the Windows key, BOOM, MAGIC!
This is a decent laptop, but as others have said you can get a new one with similar or better hardware elsewhere. If you do decide on this, don't go into the OS expecting 7, expect 7 but better. Seriously, all the navigating and everything is so easy if you learn the Windows Key commands. Ridiculously easy. I don't miss the Start menu at all.
And if you don't have a touch screen, do not fear. I don't either. Get used to change, as our interaction with our computers moves away from traditional devices and more into touch, gesture, and voice-based input. There will always be a place for mouse and keyboard, but come on, you can't expect the standard desktop set-up to just drag on forever.

gak0090


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jlvrt42 wrote:Some people are just plain silly. By nature we are afraid of change I guess, but spend 30 minutes with Win8 and you will be fine. It is just a fancy new start screen on top of Windows 7. As far as using an app to bring back the old start menu there is really no need to. Need something that you would normally go to the start menu for? Hit the windows key one time, start typing what it is that you are looking for, and bam done.

I have to agree with you. I do desktop applications training (stuff like Excel and Access), so I suppose I have more opportunities to use it than most. But I have to say, I don't understand all the negatives about Win8. Sure, it's different...but so was Win7 when it was new. After a little time with it, I really like Win8...wouldn't go back to Win7. I would change some things if I could...but I don't want to go back.



Windows 8 is making you use a tablet interface- which is fine if you have a touch device. Unfortunately most systems using windows 8 are still not touch devices. No one complained about windows 7- everyone complains about windows 8. My biggest issue is that when using the desktop side it loses all the intuitive functionality that it use to have. So great- you go and download something like windows shell which does help a lot. Then you notice other aggravations. The desktop basically looks like windows basic, the cool transparencies are off. To make a system image, the back-up tool is hidden, and when you do find it -it does not quite work as well as it did in W7. No more mediacenter? You have to pay for a separate download. And then you have the issue with UEFI and multiboot configurations (including Linux installs) that windows 8 has created.

I messed with it for about a week before ditching it on a new laptop I had, and I couldn't be happier.

jlvrt42


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gak0090 wrote:Windows 8 is making you use a tablet interface- which is fine if you have a touch device. Unfortunately most systems using windows 8 are still not touch devices. No one complained about windows 7- everyone complains about windows 8. My biggest issue is that when using the desktop side it loses all the intuitive functionality that it use to have. So great- you go and download something like windows shell which does help a lot. Then you notice other aggravations. The desktop basically looks like windows basic, the cool transparencies are off. To make a system image, the back-up tool is hidden, and when you do find it -it does not quite work as well as it did in W7. No more mediacenter? You have to pay for a separate download. And then you have the issue with UEFI and multiboot configurations (including Linux installs) that windows 8 has created.

I messed with it for about a week before ditching it on a new laptop I had, and I couldn't be happier.



I use Win8 nearly every day on both a touch screen (my Surface Pro) and a non-touch (HP Pavilion). I also teach classes most days on Win7. There are differences between Win8 on a touch or non-touch screen...but I wouldn't trade either version to go back to Win7. As another poster said, change is inevitable. Doesn't anyone else remember when ANY version of Windows was new?

danlecompte


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The only real gripe I have with Windows 8 is that they don't have a big tile in the middle of the start screen that takes you to an interactive "How to" video that quickly explains the slightly different interface of hot corners, right clicking in the bottom left corner for every setting ever, etc. Instead they throw people in blind with little instruction. Come on man, you can't trust people to learn things on their own. If you try, you end up with the tidal wave of whining about how it's unintuitive and impossible to use and the bane of their existence (ridiculous).

It's only unintuitive or hidden until you learn how to do it once. Then it's just different, and you're just mad that it's not the same. If you're demanding that they bring the start button back, you're saying that you haven't put any effort into learning the differences.

90% of the time you can live solely on the desktop and never have to interface with any of the differences. If you simply can't wrap your mind around doing something that's not exactly identical to "how I used to do it" then there's this: Start 8

The other software that I actually do think adds some missing functionality is: Modern Mix

It lets you window, resize, and pin Win8 apps in the desktop.

Don't let the largely misguided negativity against Windows 8 stop you from buying this computer if you like the hardware. News flash: you're not going to find new computers preloaded with Windows 7 anymore, so unless you're going to get a M@c or use Linux, stop saying "pfft, I was gunna get this but then I saw it has Win8. PASS!!!!"


And seriously, stop spouting the ridiculous lie that "it's like only good for touch screens and tablets. It's useless on a regular computer!" Again, all that statement says is that you put zero effort into becoming familiar with the slightly different navigation and interface.

gak0090


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jlvrt42 wrote:I use Win8 nearly every day on both a touch screen (my Surface Pro) and a non-touch (HP Pavilion). I also teach classes most days on Win7. There are differences between Win8 on a touch or non-touch screen...but I wouldn't trade either version to go back to Win7. As another poster said, change is inevitable. Doesn't anyone else remember when ANY version of Windows was new?



Can you tell me any functional improvements to the desktop portion of Windows 8? I have not been able to measure any improvements in benchmarking. I don't have an issue with the metrosexual tile theme- thats fine. But if something ain't broke- don't break it. Why are you killing the vastly more intuitive portion on the desktop side, when you basically could have kept windows 7 as is, and just implemented the metrosexual tile overlay on top of it.