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HP Desktops & AOC Monitors

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mjburns9


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None of these are very good machines.

Woot needs to get some deals on some decent machines, like ones with Intel Core i7-3770 CPU's and NVIDIA GeForce GT 640, GTX 590, GTX 650 or GTX 650Ti graphics cards.

readnower


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I don't see the warranty information on these. Am I just looking in the wrong place?

cidneyd


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readnower wrote:I don't see the warranty information on these. Am I just looking in the wrong place?



Warranty: 90 Day HP
It was at the bottom on the 'features' tab

hischampion


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mjburns9 wrote:None of these are very good machines.

Woot needs to get some deals on some decent machines, like ones with Intel Core i7-3770 CPU's and NVIDIA GeForce GT 640, GTX 590, GTX 650 or GTX 650Ti graphics cards.



I think the one with 6 cores should be pretty decent. That CPU has great reviews on Newegg.

Also the graphics card is not screaming on fire but you could replace it, the motherboard supports PCIe 2.1.

The main concern would be the power supply and if you ever wanted to do multi-gpu setups.

cidneyd


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hischampion wrote:I think the one with 6 cores should be pretty decent. That CPU has great reviews on Newegg.

Also the graphics card is not screaming on fire but you could replace it, the motherboard supports PCIe 2.1.

The main concern would be the power supply and if you ever wanted to do multi-gpu setups.



This is the one I was looking at getting. It seems pretty nice for the price and like you said the graphics card can be upgraded. Buttt do I reaaally need a computer when I already have a laptop? I just don't know. Decisions, decisions.

jaronharding


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the "3rd gen i core" is actually only a second gen according to the specs.

ThunderThighs


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jaronharding wrote:the "3rd gen i core" is actually only a second gen according to the specs.

Can you help me out here? Which sale?



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GarrettDavis


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I bought one of these deals, from Woot, about a month ago.
Specifically, I bought the "Dual-Core i3 Desktop with 1.5TB HD" a.k.a "HP p6-2355 i3-3220 8GB DDR3 1.5TB".

It's okay, I guess.

Here's some unsolicited advice:

1. Think long and hard before getting any HP computer these days.
Why does Woot have so many "refurbished" machines to unload on us?
I fear that it's because so many people buy them, have trouble with them, and return them.
For example: my computer, and (per other websites) lots of other HP desktops have USB ports in the front-panel that don't work, because the wires from the front panel weren't plugged in to the motherboard. It took me only a few minutes of Googling to find a picture that showed me how to plug in the loose connector. But I was left with this nasty suspicion that HP has outsourced their quality control to the Lighthouse for the Blind.

2. Don't buy any of these HP computers if you plan to upgrade anything right away.
The power supply is, apparently, only barely adequate to run the stuff already inside.
I bought a video graphics board because the on-board graphics didn't support my two monitors which both had VGA interfaces (the on-board graphics does support DVI-D and one DVI-I which supports VGA through an adaptor) but couldn't get the new board to send any signal to any monitors.
If you go the support forum on the HP website, you can read lots of cries for help from people attempting, and failing, to do something similar.
Not only might you need to replace the power supply, you will need to learn how to work around the "Secure Boot" stuff in the BIOS that, in the name of security, tries to prevent changes to either hardware or software.

3. If you can live with the capabilities of one of these systems as-is, without upgrading anything, you'll probably be happy with it. My system was well-packed, had no cosmetic or other defects - except for the unplugged USB ports mentioned before - and is working fine at the moment.

4. If you can live with Windows 7, or even Vista or XP, you can live with Windows 8. I installed the "Classic Shell" - www.classicshell.net - which restored the Start Menu and un-did some of the other silly things in Windows 8. So I bypass all the weird stuff in the "modern interface". And I really appreciate the much faster start-up time in Windows 8.

5. The CPU really is a Core i3-3220. The "specs" tab, listing it as "Core i3-2220", is wrong.

Hope this helps.

hischampion


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The HP Envy desktop support page is here for more information: HP ENVY h8-1534 Desktop PC support

beagle194


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If I'm looking for a standard gaming computer (nothing too fancy - WoW on high settings), would the Envy's graphics suffice?

dvdvija


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How is the quality of usb portable monitor??

allykat26


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Looking to get a monitor for my dad.... he still has a 50 lb monster, so any will be an improvement. Which is the best deal? TY in advance!

lorenzodemedici


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I purchased a refurbished HP computer similar to these on a different Woot sale about a month ago. I've been buying HP computers since they were a calculator company. I agree with an earlier comment that HP has problems with quality control and customer support. I too have had the experience of getting a HP computer that just had the wires plugged into the motherboard incorrectly, nothing else wrong with it. I think that's why they have so many of these refurbs for sale. They have some minor problem right out of the box and back they go. The computer that I got last month had obviously been sent back immediately, because it looks brand new inside and out.
Anyway these desktops are just metal boxes with a collection of parts inside. It's the quality of the pieces inside the box that actually matters. HP uses completely generic pieces, whatever is cheap and available from the manufacturers at the moment. They're no better or worse than a computer you could build at home using the same pieces. The difference is that they get the parts cheaper than you could, and they have already put it together for you. So if the computer is reasonably close to something you would have built for yourself, just buy it and change the parts that you don't like. It's still cheaper and easier than starting with a metal box and a motherboard.

ashana


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I'm also interested in the monitors; any thoughts on those? And any hope they'd be compatible with a Mac?

posti


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I Wooted a dual-core HP desktop for my parents in 2010, and a quad-core for myself in early 2011. Both are refurbished machines, but looked brand new down to the protective peel-off facings. Both systems get daily use, though mostly for word processing, Internet browsing, and light gaming. My system gets used for website development, with a lot of Photoshop, audio, and video work as well. No high-end gaming. Bottom line is that both machines have performed flawlessly, and handle everything we need. If you are a high-end gamer, you may need to up the graphics, but for the average user, these systems are as good a buy as you are likely to find. My only experience with HP support was for a large-format color printer that was defective. They overnighted new print cartridges twice, and then overnighted a new printer when the carts did not help. Can't hope for better than that!

danlindy


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whats the total price after tax? i live in AZ, the one im looking at costs 459.99.. so i have to type in my credit card first? or can i find out how much its going to be?? thanks!!

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danlindy wrote:whats the total price after tax? i live in AZ, the one im looking at costs 459.99.. so i have to type in my credit card first? or can i find out how much its going to be?? thanks!!



I'm presuming that you're asking about this offer: http://www.woot.com/offers/hp-envy-six-core-desktop-w-10gb-ram-7?

You can enter in all of your shipping and purchasing information before you actually check out and find what taxes will apply to your order. Shipping will remain $5.

I think this website will also be able to help you determine the sales tax on your order.

R&D


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If you get one of these computers and it works, you get a decent deal. I purchased the quad core HP last month and it cost me about 20 hours of my time troubleshooting, trying to get help from Woot and HP, and replacing HD and memory chips (from HP). Neither Woot nor HP wanted to stand by the computer after the sale... if pressed, I couldn't tell you which customer service was worse. Woot tells you they won't do anything but refund the computer (apparently, it's tough for them to do an exchange). HP will not send you a replacement and will have you in knots troubleshooting and replacing components. After this fiasco, I'm spending a little more money to build my own computer or get it from a vendor that stands by their sale.

SmackHappE


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Im curious if any of you have done a Buy vs. Build analysis on any of these guys listed....

i.e. about much would it cost to collect comparable parts from scratch, gotten at competitively discounted prices?

michwake


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It is 90 days. Typical for most refurb pcs. It was listed there somewhere.

michwake


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I just bought one myself after reading this. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13845_3-57584163-58/get-a-six-core-hp-desktop-for-$469.99/

gljin40517


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mjburns9 wrote:None of these are very good machines.

Woot needs to get some deals on some decent machines, like ones with Intel Core i7-3770 CPU's and NVIDIA GeForce GT 640, GTX 590, GTX 650 or GTX 650Ti graphics cards.



That`s your OPINION..I bought one of these from woot a few weeks ago and am VERY satisfied with it...I use it everyday and have had ZERO problems with it...and it is very fast and very,very quiet.Many of the refurbished pc`s that are on the market right now are the result of people who bought them,not realizing they were running Windows 8 and returned them for that reason only.I work in a big box technology store and we had to take several machines back when Windows 8 came out just to satisfy customers...Just saying,some,not all,but some of these "refurbs" never had anything wrong with them in the first place.

dcalotta


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dvdvija wrote:How is the quality of usb portable monitor??



This is what I had to say last time these popped up:

dcalotta wrote:I use the 16" USB guy at work - public accounting, so we are off at clients frequently - and they are very good for what they are. Lightweight, easy to pack up and travel with, USB. All of the stuff that people usually care about with monitors (color reproduction, refresh rate, etc.)... if you care about that, don't buy this monitor. They are all fine, but you can probably do better for less money if you don't buy a portable USB monitor.

I have a couple of gripes. First, the software that is included isn't great. The monitor will work in landscape or portrait, and it has an accelerometer to measure which position it's in. It's too sensitive (bang the desk sometimes and it tries to switch), and it takes way too long for everything to figure out how it needs to display - you have flickering and black screens for probably 30 seconds. Not sure if it's a Windows issue, though. And finally, the positioning of the USB port on these is stupid. The port is in the well that the stand folds into, and it's a pain to try and stick the cable in. I believe this has been moved on the newer versions (the new ones we gave to the interns a few weeks ago have the port on the back), but who knows what version these are.



I've had it for about a year and a half, in and out of my briefcase pretty frequently, and it has held up. It feels... sort of well built. It is lightweight, but the folding stand feels strongish. I'm not running out to back over this thing with my car, but I don't worry that it is going to fall apart under normal use.

michwake


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I've been looking all over for this but does anyone know if you can buy an extended warranty on the refurb desktops? I thought they had something but I can't find it.

ThunderThighs


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michwake wrote:I've been looking all over for this but does anyone know if you can buy an extended warranty on the refurb desktops? I thought they had something but I can't find it.

We are unable to offer SquareTrade warranties at this time due to some issues on their side. We hope to have it back VERY soon. Sorry for the inconvenience.



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draggoman


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mjburns9 wrote:None of these are very good machines.

Woot needs to get some deals on some decent machines, like ones with Intel Core i7-3770 CPU's and NVIDIA GeForce GT 640, GTX 590, GTX 650 or GTX 650Ti graphics cards.



I researched very well on the HP ENVY H8-1534 Desktop, AMD FX-6200 Hexa-Core 3.8GHz and it's a very good deal. The processor has plenty of L2 Cache for gaming and it's benchmarks are very comparable to an I5 if not better in some cases. The power supply is 460 watts, plenty. To build this yourself would be about $600 which includes the Operating System but no Beats Audio or other included software. Not a better deal anywhere on the internet at this point in time. If you asked me, it's almost a steal.

The other Computers listed in this deal have one flaw, if your into graphics or gaming, you would need a better power supply as these are only 300 watts. A mid range GT 640 should run on a computer with at least a 450 watt power supply.

Edit: I've had the former mentioned system for a few days now and I have one word - score! Windows 8 has the learning curve of about an eight year old and this thing is fast. The music software is really nice. Playing games on high settings consistantly. (GTA 4, Need for Speed). Computer boots up in less then 30 seconds. Internet pages load instantly. Nice looking case. I did change out the graphics card with a GT 640, although the stock one worked very well also.

lorenzodemedici


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gljin40517 wrote:That`s your OPINION..I bought one of these from woot a few weeks ago and am VERY satisfied with it...I use it everyday and have had ZERO problems with it...and it is very fast and very,very quiet.Many of the refurbished pc`s that are on the market right now are the result of people who bought them,not realizing they were running Windows 8 and returned them for that reason only.I work in a big box technology store and we had to take several machines back when Windows 8 came out just to satisfy customers...Just saying,some,not all,but some of these "refurbs" never had anything wrong with them in the first place.



I think this is a very good point and I'm quoting it just for emphasis. If you've formed certain computer habits from years of using previous versions of Windows, the first few days of using Windows 8 can be so frustrating that you just want to take the computer back to the store. Stores with a "no questions asked" return policy have to take it back. If you're willing to take a few days to learn how to work a computer again, Windows 8 is no problem. Not much of one anyway. You either get used to it or learn the workarounds to avoid the really stupid quirks in Win8. I don't know who the test market was for Windows 8. Must have been 12 year olds and people who have no clue about how computers actually work.

sbell42


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Just a heads up that at least the 19" AOC refurb I just received shipped with the wrong base. I'm not sure if I just got unlucky or it's a problem with all of them, but I think it's worth letting people know it's a potential issue.

ThunderThighs


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sbell42 wrote:Just a heads up that at least the 19" AOC refurb I just received shipped with the wrong base. I'm not sure if I just got unlucky or it's a problem with all of them, but I think it's worth letting people know it's a potential issue.

Sorry about that. Be sure to email support@woot.com for assistance.



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grantrobison


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On the HP ENVY H8-1534, it says it has 10GB RAM. Any ideas of what configuration that is in? I'm sure it has 4 slots, so probably 2x4GB and a 2GB?

michwake


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ThunderThighs wrote:We are unable to offer SquareTrade warranties at this time due to some issues on their side. We hope to have it back VERY soon. Sorry for the inconvenience.



Thanks for response. When you say VERY soon, will it be retroactive for the HP ENVY PC that I just bought? When I bought it someone had told me I could add the warranty if I wanted but then I couldn't find out how. I'm just wondering once it is back if it is only for purchased going forward or this one. My son is 13 and takes good care of his stuff but this is replacing a PC that died. I'm hoping this one gets him through high school. :-)

usermonster


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If you're looking at the 1534 and live in New York, it's cheaper to get at Newegg. The base price is more, but they don't charge tax, so you end up saving around $25.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883256744

turtlegir1


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I need Office for working at home (and working on my own stuff). Any wooters know the best price source for getting the "real" Office suite, not a bootleg or anything illegal-ish? Excited to get a new desktop (my HP AIO is quickly dying after 5 years), but need to stay productive!

gljin40517


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grantrobison wrote:On the HP ENVY H8-1534, it says it has 10GB RAM. Any ideas of what configuration that is in? I'm sure it has 4 slots, so probably 2x4GB and a 2GB?



It has 2 4 gig sticks in banks 0 and 3 and 1 2 gig stick in bank 2...bank 4 is open

lorenzodemedici


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gljin40517 wrote:It has 2 4 gig sticks in banks 0 and 3 and 1 2 gig stick in bank 2...bank 4 is open



Unlike the old machines that required matching pairs of memory cards, these new computers don't. So, you could buy one 8GB stick and put it in the one empty slot. That's not what I would do though. The 2GB stick is only worth about $20. I would throw it away and buy a 2X8 16GB kit for about $130. Then you'd have 24GB total RAM which should be enough for anything you want to do with that computer. If that's spending too much, you can add another 2GB stick for $20 and have a total of 12, which is a very popular RAM configuration.

I have 28GB in mine and honestly I couldn't tell you why I need that much RAM. But there are so many memory resident programs that run in the background now. You can selectively disable them but then of course you lose whatever function that application was performing.

SelfGovern


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turtlegir1 wrote:I need Office for working at home (and working on my own stuff). Any wooters know the best price source for getting the "real" Office suite, not a bootleg or anything illegal-ish? Excited to get a new desktop (my HP AIO is quickly dying after 5 years), but need to stay productive!


If you can deal with a legally free MS Office highly compatible suite, check out Libre Office (libreoffice.org).

If you have to have MS Office and are a student, You may be able to find a great deal at your campus bookstore; MS often has great deals for people with .edu email addresses.

If you work at a Big Corporation (or non-corporate entity) that uses the MS Office products, see if your organization participates in the Microsoft Home Use Program (HUP). If so, you can get a licensed copy of Office for home use while you work for that company for $10.

Liberty breeds responsibility

nuyork26


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danlindy wrote:whats the total price after tax? i live in AZ, the one im looking at costs 459.99.. so i have to type in my credit card first? or can i find out how much its going to be?? thanks!!



Mang, this pcs are hellova deals from the products price point but truthfully WOOT blows chunks when they tack TAX on the products after adding the $5.00 shipping and handling. Here in Cali is 9.75%. You will probably have to pay AZ taxes whatever those may be. Hope this helped.

joeymutiny


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Oops I posted the wrong thing, and it won't let me delete! Oh well, I just bought this, hope it is awesome!

rsinps


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Just got my $239 desktop today and it looks brand new. Still has the plastic film on the front.

It was for a person who will use it for browsing and emailing so it is perfect. I added the Classic Shell add on from classicshell.net/ as I don't want to spend the time learning Win8 so I can teach someone.

If these come up again don't hesitate if you need a fast, low cost unit.

Only glitch was the power cord for the monitor was the wrong type but I have a bunch of the generic ones that fit.