bpfordte wrote:I've found that those that deny the existence of God are usually just looking for a way to avoid accountability. Our moral compass is defined by God, but if you take God out of the equation then our morals are defined by ourselves - flawed, and sinful humans. You think God created us to sleep with the same sex or kill our unborn? No, those are the result of humans trying to define morality.
Just a side note: I believe that those that believe there is a God, but don't believe in His Son, Jesus, as their Savior are just as lost as those that deny the existence of God completely. The Devil believes there is a God, but it's not going to get him out of hell.
Yeah... no. Here's the thing. Accountability does not exist in the Christian moral system. The single deciding factor that determines whether you are rewarded or punished is your belief in Jesus, not your behavior. Your behavior is totally irrelevant. You could live a life of moral depravity and debauchery, killing every other human being on the planet, and then repent and become a Christian the moment before you die - and you'll be welcomed to the loving arms of God, given a mansion in heaven where you will be free from pain and suffering forever. Meanwhile, a pious believer in another religion could devote her entire life to helping those who suffer, are less fortunate, are oppressed, and so on. Then, when she dies, she gets agony and everlasting torment in a lake of fire.
There is no justice in this system. No accountability. Only madness. You can be more evil than Hitler and escape punishment; you can be the biggest saint who ever lived and be tortured for it.
Meanwhile, atheists want to actually hold human beings accountable while they're alive. You know... the only life anyone actually knows we have. The only time we can be sure that anyone gets justice or punishment as fits their behavior.
By the way, if your moral compass is defined by the God of the Old Testament, I don't want you anywhere near me. I can't be sure that you're not going to obey his command to invade my city and slaughter everyone who lives in it, save for the virgins who you'll take as your "wives". The moral standard exhibited by God and his chosen people in the Bible is not one any civilized person should consider worth obeying.