ZheroHour wrote:O & A are so successful, terrestrial radio bought their show from 6-9, then they go to XM from 9-11. Ther're so good, radio went to satellite to get them. First show to do it. XM rules. Plus college sports and MLB and 50 more channels and more subs and more money and higher stock prices and higher monthly adds.

Wait a minute uninformed! The facts are these: O&A were charging extra for their show on XM and failed. No one would pay an additional 3$ for their crap show! The only reason they are back on FM is that David Lee Roth failed in Howard's Spot and they needed some lame replacement at WXRK.

darkfrog wrote:They are and have been selling on eBay for $25.99 ($5.99 after rebate)
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With free activation and 3 months of free service?!

I have had XM for a year. Quality is great. It has every baseball game. EVERY one. Nothing better than driving down the road and listening to one of the great baseball announcers in this country.

picopir8 wrote:Too bad its not a SIRIUS receiver...

XM was first but SIRIUS has been outselling XM every month for the past year for one main reason... it offers much more. NFL, College Football, NBA, etc. More talk radio, more exclusive content, and less repedative music channels.

Oh really?..I guess that's why they only have 5 milllion subscribers while XM has 7.5 million!..

DJSTYLES wrote:

Wait a minute uninformed! The facts are these: O&A were charging extra for their show on XM and failed. No one would pay an additional 3$ for their crap show! The only reason they are back on FM is that David Lee Roth failed in Howard's Spot and they needed some lame replacement at WXRK.

I'm not gonna keep repeating myself, but you dont understand buisness, my friend. There is such a lack of talent that regular radio had to go and sign O&A. ONLY radio show to do 2 shows a day ON BOTH FORMATS. How is that failure? AHAHAHA.

wootfan15 wrote:

Oh really?..I guess that's why they only have 5 milllion subscribers while XM has 7.5 million!..

Facts one year ago Sirius had 660,000 subscribers currently 5.1 million. XM has had to drop their projections twice this year and are falling fast. It's only a matter of time before XM gets bought by Sirius

Stern sucks. That old lady quit a long time ago. XM has Opie and Anthony who actually WANT to do radio instead of just getting paid.

DJSTYLES wrote:

Facts one year ago Sirius had 660,000 subscribers currently 5.1 million. XM has had to drop their projections twice this year and are falling fast. It's only a matter of time before XM gets bought by Sirius

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. And inherit that mess? BWAHAHAHA. BTW Sirius counts units in cars not activated, XM doesnt

DJSTYLES wrote:

Facts one year ago Sirius had 660,000 subscribers currently 5.1 million. XM has had to drop their projections twice this year and are falling fast. It's only a matter of time before XM gets bought by Sirius

I think you need to learn to read stock prices if you think Sirius can buy XM. When you spend half a billion on one guy, you aren't in a position to do much for awhile.

DJSTYLES wrote:

Wait a minute uninformed! The facts are these: O&A were charging extra for their show on XM and failed. No one would pay an additional 3$ for their crap show! The only reason they are back on FM is that David Lee Roth failed in Howard's Spot and they needed some lame replacement at WXRK.

BZZZZZZZZZZZZ. WRONG.

Way to listen to your lord and savior Stern. Try again.

Funny how they made it to satellite first AND made the transition to both first, are syndicated nationally and somehow still failures.

Hoo Hoo.

ZheroHour wrote:

Wrong. After this year Nascar goes to Sirius, and NHL is only on XM. Plus XM has college ball.

Way to muddy the water. SIrius has 40 NHL games a week this season. XM gets NHL next season. Sirius has college ball too. The original poster wanted NFL. That's on Sirius. Bottom line, whatever sport a listener wants, they'll have to track down but it won't always be there or it won't always be exclusive.

Anyway the original poster was wondering which had deeper playlists. They're both orders of magnitude better than radio.

SurplusHP wrote:

Way to muddy the water. SIrius has 40 NHL games a week this season. XM gets NHL next season. Sirius has college ball too. The original poster wanted NFL. That's on Sirius. Bottom line, whatever sport a listener wants, they'll have to track down but it won't always be there or it won't always be exclusive.

Anyway the original poster was wondering which had deeper playlists. They're both orders of magnitude better than radio.

BOTH have NHL right now and next year its ONLY on XM.

http://www.mediabuyerplanner.com/2006/10/05/rehr_takes_aim_at_satellite/

Sirius counts on its customer list some 500,000 "subscribers" derived from "empty cars that sit in dealer parking lots.

ZheroHour wrote:

I'm not gonna keep repeating myself, but you dont understand buisness, my friend. There is such a lack of talent that regular radio had to go and sign O&A. ONLY radio show to do 2 shows a day ON BOTH FORMATS. How is that failure? AHAHAHA.

Why would anyone (HOWARD) want to do two shows CENSORED! That limits his freedom of speech and isn't fair to the subscribers of PAID satellite!? Gee, I want to buy XM for a FREE RADIO BROADCAST!! I THINK YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND BIZ. Also in a desperate move, Clear channel (owns part of XM) started lame rumors Howard was coming back to Free radio. Remember the FCC is the reason he went to Sirius to be UNCENSORED so listeners could have the true content of his show. o&a show is unlistenable and they were disperate to get all of the listeners on WXRK that HOWARD BUILT.

satellite radio buying guide:

I know this is hard for some people to understand but I will say it anyway.

If you like O+A and MLB you should get XM
If you like Howard you should get a Sirius

For any other sports get the one that has the sport you like.

If you want XM and you don't have it, this is a good deal.

Mazzcomm5 wrote:satellite radio buying guide:

I know this is hard for some people to understand but I will say it anyway.

If you like O+A and MLB you should get XM
If you like Howard you should get a Sirius

For any other sports get the one that has the sport you like.

If you want XM and you don't have it, this is a good deal.

also, NFL is on Sirius plus if you like these bands Sirius has dedicated channels dedicated to them: THE ROLLING STONES, THE WHO and ELVIS

Actuallly, this radio can also be used with your home stereo or portably with additional accessories(Best Buy, Circuit City, xmradio.com); but this unit comes with the car kit.
It's a great radio. I have one in my house with a remote that came with the home kit, and one in my car. I've traveled with it extensively without any service inturruptions (excepting tunnels), even in the dessert! I can't drive without it. I am addicted!
FYI: 35+ MORE STATIONS THAN SIRIUS!!! 135 vs.171

http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=18948&hed=Howard+Stern+Beats+Oprah

Howard Stern Beats Oprah

Sirius Satellite Radio, with the shock jock, gets a jolt in subscriber numbers.
October 4, 2006

If satellite radio subscriber numbers benchmark celebrity clout, then Sirius Satellite Radio shock jock Howard Stern has more pull than XM Satellite Radio’s Oprah Winfrey.


Sirius on Wednesday reported subscriber numbers increased by 441,101 to 5,119,308 for the third quarter, a 23 percent year-over-year gain. Shock jock Howard Stern, whose daily radio programming runs on two Sirius channels, may claim part of the jolt in subscription numbers.


Sirius said it continues to expect to hit its goal of 6.3 million subscribers by the end of 2006.



XM growth numbers were less robust. The satellite concern, which features Oprah Winfrey programming, reported Wednesday it increased subscriber numbers by 285,000 to more than 7,185,000 in the third quarter. XM said the numbers fell in line with its expectations. XM said that starting with the third quarter, the company no longer includes some rental car fleet subscriptions in its total, cutting about 20,000 subscribers.

Shares in Sirius decreased $0.04, or 1 percent, to $4.03 in recent trading. XM shares lost $.024, or 2 percent, to $12.34.

I have a Roady XT and XM in two of my cars. It is a solid receiver and GREAT service. Serius' one true competitive advantage is Howard Stern, but even he is nowhere near the powerhouse he once was. XM doesn't have the NFL, but football is significantly worse on the radio. XM carries every MLB game which, for traditionalists like myself, is the BEST way to follow a ball game. XM also has Oprah, Opie & Anthony, Bob Edwards, and nearly identical music/sports/comedy/talk channels as Serius. I've had XM for more than 2 years and can honestly say that the biggest complaint I've had is waiting on hold for too long the ONE time I've had a service problem.

Just called XM. Their deal is $79.99 + $20 mail in rebate. No free activation, no free 3 months of service! Even with the mail in rebate you save $54 bucks here! This Woot deal is huge!!!

DJSTYLES wrote:

Why would anyone (HOWARD) want to do two shows CENSORED! That limits his freedom of speech and isn't fair to the subscribers of PAID satellite!? Gee, I want to buy XM for a FREE RADIO BROADCAST!! I THINK YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND BIZ. Also in a desperate move, Clear channel (owns part of XM) started lame rumors Howard was coming back to Free radio. Remember the FCC is the reason he went to Sirius to be UNCENSORED so listeners could have the true content of his show. o&a show is unlistenable and they were disperate to get all of the listeners on WXRK that HOWARD BUILT.

Actually Howard started those rumors himself cause he wanted to make some noise. He's pissed he's not water cooler talk anymore. Clearchannel didnt start those rumors. And the XM show is uncensored and is from 6-11am. Free radio is from 6-9. So I still get lots of uncensored O&A and still have the quality guests that free radio provides.

Howard's done my friend. In fact, he's on vacation AGAIN isnt he? 10 weeks a year. BOY he sure loves doing radio.

sdcrabtree wrote:Has anyone used a rebate through woot? I would like to hear if they actual accept a woot purchase for a rebate. If they did accept what did you send them?

Just went to the my account screen and clicked on the printers I bought and then printed the invoice. It was, literally, that easy. =D
Although I have to admit that I havent received the actual rebate checks yet, I did get the emails that said they (all three) had been received and were being processed.
Hope this helps.

golf22 wrote:XM sucks- Go with SIRIUS

XM music channels put Sirius to shame. Go for Sirius only if you hate watching sports on TV

ZheroHour wrote:

Actually Howard started those rumors himself cause he wanted to make some noise. He's pissed he's not water cooler talk anymore. Clearchannel didnt start those rumors. And the XM show is uncensored and is from 6-11am. Free radio is from 6-9. So I still get lots of uncensored O&A and still have the quality guests that free radio provides.

Howard's done my friend. In fact, he's on vacation AGAIN isnt he? 10 weeks a year. BOY he sure loves doing radio.

NO It was inside radio which is owned by Clear Channel. Inside radio is a schill for Free radio and hates how well stern is doing. The NY Post took the story and ran with it before checking the facts. The reporter was fired from the Post as a result. Please before you type those falsehoods, CHECK THE FACTS!

For example how XM is slipping...
http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=18948&hed=Howard+Stern+Beats+Oprah

Also Howard is LIVE not on vacation and don't forget about over 23000 hours of great replays of quality radio that O&A styled themselves after. FACT

After spending $500 million all in on Stern it's doubtful that Sirius can afford to buy anything!
Meanwhile XM has contracted OPRAH the flippin most powerful woman in the world for only $50 mil. maybe because she believes in the service unlike Howard who dumped his Sirius stock before the ink dried on his contract! Furthermore, XM has just anounced that they are on track to reach 8 million suscribers by the end of the year and reach cash flow positive!
These are the facts.

Good Product but not so great service.
Ever had a relationship with a company that just made you feel like you don't matter at all.....then XM is for you. I questioned the fact that some of their music channels have commercials on them, their answer was that they had a deal with Clearchannel ( which I can listen to for free on regular FM radio BTW) and that I was free to turn the channel...:-O My reply was, do we the subscribers get any breaks on the sub. fee since they were running these ads?
Hmm.....guess not since no-one replied. Sort of a rip off IMO.

I think I see why Sirius's subscriptions have doubled in just a year and have out sold XM for the past four quarters.....I wonder how many will attribute that to Sterns move to Sirius? Can't believe people would pay to listen to that...;-/

wootfan15 wrote:After spending $500 million all in on Stern it's doubtful that Sirius can afford to buy anything!
Meanwhile XM has contracted OPRAH the flippin most powerful woman in the world for only $50 mil. maybe because she believes in the service unlike Howard who dumped his Sirius stock before the ink dried on his contract! Furthermore, XM has just anounced that they are on track to reach 8 million suscribers by the end of the year and reach cash flow positive!
These are the facts.

Isn't that the Oprah Channel that Oprah's not even on!? 50 million for not being on a channel? That's a pay day! It should be The Gail King Channel

How well stern is doing? Haha. 1.2 million listeners due to Howard, from Sirius. 1.2

I laugh at you Howard fans and how blind you really are. I'm done with this mediocrity. Good day sir.

BTW you dropped something.

aross42 wrote:Hey, there are a few comments out there starting to worry me. Does this come with the items in the picture when you enlarge it?radio face, Cassette adapter, lighter power cord, house power cord, two brackets, and cassette adapter thingy? I doubt Woot would show pix of these items if they werent included. Can anybody tell me if this is what they consider "the car package" I've heard so much about? I want to use in car and in my house also. Thank Wootness...

Yes, that is the car package. The thing at the top center holds the actual radio and all the wires connect into the back of it, the thing on the left of that is that mounting bracket - it connects onto an air vent of your dashboard. The top right is of course the power cord for the cigarette adapter. Then you have the tape deck thing which is completely useless because this unit comes with a built-in FM transmitter that will send the sound to a radio frequency you choose on your car's stereo. The last thing is the actual antenna - which has to be mounted on the outside of your car somewhere.
As for use in your home as well as car - that is an additional $50 home kit.
I have owned this for about a year now and I have no real complaints. A subscription to XM also comes with an subscription to XM-online so you can listen on your computer to a very much more limited playlist.

ZheroHour wrote:How well stern is doing? Haha. 1.2 million listeners due to Howard, from Sirius. 1.2

I laugh at you Howard fans and how blind you really are. I'm done with this mediocrity. Good day sir.

BTW you dropped something.

Alll of my factual replies you could not back up.
Stop posting crap without facts!
Go listen to commercial music on XM..... Gee I have all my commercial Free music channels with all those MTV VJ's and washed up celebrities like Barry Williams on The ONLY Sat radio Station SIRIUS........... So There LOL :-p

Aside from the Howard vs O&A debate, and the depth of the musc, vs. genre, which I question a bit, If you grew up in the NY Metro Area and remember the great DJ's on WABC or WNEW FM, or remeber the early days of MTV, a lot of them can be found on Sirius including, Meg Griffin, Vin Scelsa, Cousin Brucie, Pat St John, Nina Blackwood, Martha Quinn, Norm N Night and many more. That to me was the clincher to choose Sirius.

Heatseeker151 wrote:Hmm, I feel it's only right to offer my opinion and experience on this unit...

Having worked for a national electronics retailer that carried this unit, I had to set up the demo display.

First unit I put up there I fired it up and heard this very high frequency whine in the music. Double checking with the built in modulator, it was more noticeable that way. So I took that unit down and put another one up, and it did the same thing...

This was back in February so they *MAY* have fixed this issue.

If you're over 35 your ears probably can't hear the whine anyway...

Also setting the background color to red resulted in the least whining.

Probably something in the CCF backlight pump circuit...

Other than that it's a perfectly serviceable unit for most people!

I had the same problem even after trying two XM radios. After thinking about it a while (it had been a long time since I installed stereo equipment) I remembered that it could be caused by a ground-loop problem. I happened to still have a ground loop isolator so I tried it. I worked great! No more background whine, whistle or hum! You can buy them at most stores that sell stereo equipment and you just plug them in between the XM head unit and your stereo input jacks. Below is a link to one that they sell at Radio Shack.

Ground loop isolator

subslug wrote:Good Product but not so great service.
Ever had a relationship with a company that just made you feel like you don't matter at all.....then XM is for you. I questioned the fact that some of their music channels have commercials on them, their answer was that they had a deal with Clearchannel ( which I can listen to for free on regular FM radio BTW) and that I was free to turn the channel...:-O My reply was, do we the subscribers get any breaks on the sub. fee since they were running these ads?
Hmm.....guess not since no-one replied. Sort of a rip off IMO.

I think I see why Sirius's subscriptions have doubled in just a year and have out sold XM for the past four quarters.....I wonder how many will attribute that to Sterns move to Sirius? Can't believe people would pay to listen to that...;-/

This is one of the most retarded posts of all time. I dont know if I want the product, but after reading this, I have more questions about the fool that wrote it than I did the product. "Ever had a relationship with a company that just made you feel like you don't matter at all.....then XM is for you." -does that mean they take good care of you? WTF?

I bought this very same unit at a retail store in March with the money from my state tax returns. The sound quality was not as good as I had hoped for (it sounds like a 96kbps mp3 to me) but that's not the unit's fault. I have been thrilled with the music selection and programming. Not big on talk radio myself, and what I really wanted was a good alt-rock station and a variety of electronic music. XM has generally delivered on both. Never had a problem with the reception, and the receiver can remember song info so if you hear a song you like on your way home from work, you can just press the little button instead of wracking your brains trying to remember what it was when you get home. Long story short, I like this radio and I like XM, I'd recommend this package to just about anyone. Worth noting that a home adapter kit (dock, antenna, AC power adapter) goes for about another fifty bucks.

Good woot. I love my xm radio. You can't beat Laura Ingraham and MLB.

edelman wrote:XM? who needs XM when you can get AM!

talk radio WOOT

XM doesnt fade out like AM and you get a larger selection of talk shows.

FWIW:

I've had XM for nearly 3 years now. I have three older Roady2 units, two in cars, and one in home. Here's what you can expect with the XT, which is essentially similar but thinner and sleeker:

Audio quality ranges from pretty good to low-bandwidth. In a car environment, it's not that big of a deal sinceyou're dealing with road noise, etc. At home, you'll note some hiss and artifacting on the worst channels (usually those in the channel 200 and up range). Music channels are actually very good to excellent. If you use a direct connection to your XM radio instead of the built-in FM modulator, the sound improves even more.

Delphi sells a kit for $29 at Circuit City and other retailers that adds a better modulator mounted in-line with your car's existing antenna. Yes, you still need the XM antenna, but the sound quality is FAR better using this unit and you don't have to worry about "splatter" from strong radio stations using the same frequency (this helps a LOT when traveling city-to-city, where an open frequency in city A may have a 100,000 watt blowtorch in another city). A bonus in that kit is an additional cigarette lighter plug, which you can wire into your fuse panel, plug your XM auto power adapter into, and discreetly hide the entire works. Makes for a nice custom installation (I've done 3 so far and they look/work great).

Can you use this thing in your home? Yes. With a caveat. You MUST purchase a home kit for the unit. Not terribly expensive, but it adds flexibility and allows you to get more out of your XM dollars. However, I'm a lazy SOB, so I bought another Roady2 to use in the house. Bonus: that same FM transmitter used in the car, built into every RoadyXT too, allows you to listen to your XM indoors and out, as long as you are in range. I love being able to listen to MLB while I'm mowing, without having to blast a radio. I can work outside, or work out, and stay up with whatever game i"m following.

For more on programming available with XM, check out www.xmradio.com. You can even sign up for a free listen online and check out the music. And remember: the holidays are fast approaching. This makes a pretty neat gift, as I gave one last year to a family member who LOVES it.

One last thing: Sports programming on XM includes MLB, NHL, NASCAR, college sports, and they had outstanding World Cup coverage, live. MLB gives you the home broadcast of the team hosting each game. NHL is the same, so if Pittsburgh is in Chicago, you'll hear the Blackhawks announcers. For some this is an issue; in that case, get NHL online and listen there. Note that even though TV may be blacked out for MLB games due to territorial or broadcast restrictions, you ALWAYS get the audio feed, no matter what. In the insipid world of MLB, I live in Orioles territory (even though I'm 6 hours away from Baltimore, only 5 from DC). Yet I cannot watch a single Nationals game on TV, ever... they're blacked out here. But with XM, I can listen to any game I choose. MLB TV DOES observe blackout rules, so be warned. Just because you're watching online, the same territorial restrictions apply.

I'll respond to any posts I see asking for more info. Give it a try: you've spent $59 on far worse in your life.

Wootapotamus

I have a Roady2 and this unit, the RoadyXT. I like the XT better for the simple fact that it has a "Jump" button which lets you flip between the last channel and the current channel. There are also more LCD color choices.

I hard-wired mine into my 2000 Jetta. Since the Jetta's cigarette plug isn't "switched" power (meaning that when the XT is plugged into the lighter socket, even when you turn the car off, the unit stays on), I ran a new cigarette plug into a switched circuit in the fuse panel and tucked it all behind the dash. I also bought an adapter to convert the CD changer control in the back of my head unit into an RCA plug that runs straight into the XT's car cradle. The sound is MUCH better if you can hardwire the audio instead of using the FM modulator.

I think XM's music variety is geared more to the true music enthusiast. Everything from brand new college indie rock, to classic Motown and Stax soul, to new age night-night music, to 1960's Colombian music. I couldn't care less about O&A or Oprah. It's all about the music for me, and XM fits my profile.

I also bought the Belkin boombox for listening to XM by the pool. It's waterproof(-ish), and there's nothing better than some Otis Redding while sittin' on the deck of the pool. ;-)

This is an excellent resource for installation tips and other XM issues:
www.xmfan.com

DJSTYLES wrote:

Isn't that the Oprah Channel that Oprah's not even on!? 50 million for not being on a channel? That's a pay day! It should be The Gail King Channel

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Actually, Oprah has a show on the "Oprah & Friends Channel."

Another monthly bill,,,for radio,,,,nah.