If you are looking to buy a micropc, then I'd say go with this. But if you really have no budget, then go with the Sony UX. My friend has one, and that thing is awesome. Micropcs are nice because you can use them as Desktop is you have a docking station. The UX comes with one, which you can hook up to a monitor,keyboard, mouse, so it basically is a desktop, with portable functions. 30 GB of memory is really good for this. I think the UX has something like 3GB, not sure though...

dankornman wrote:Yeah, I would really consider buying this to do just that. I think I'm gonna go to best buy and ask if they'll allow a return like this.

also make sure you talk THEM into buying an extended warranty with it

davidtb wrote:Wow..this is soo cool...why's it more than a Laptop?

If it were so simple to make these things smaller, why wouldn't desktop computers be the size of a thimble? These things take time and lots of research as well as the machinery to build such tiny parts. I would LOVE to see you build one on your own for less than what Woot is asking. By the way, for $799 we sure have come along way..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC

Pencap wrote:If you are looking to buy a micropc, then I'd say go with this. But if you really have no budget, then go with the Sony UX. My friend has one, and that thing is awesome. Micropcs are nice because you can use them as Desktop is you have a docking station. The UX comes with one, which you can hook up to a monitor,keyboard, mouse, so it basically is a desktop, with portable functions. 30 GB of memory is really good for this. I think the UX has something like 3GB, not sure though...

This has USB and a dongle that allows 1280x1024 output, as well as bluetooth, screw a docking station ;)

Damn I love the design on this one and have really been jonesing for a UMPC - it would make work life less of a hassle than than the 2-ton laptop. After reading commnets, don't know if this the right one. It sounds like it has some serious issues - hence this model being dumped at Woot. Anyone know how it stacks up against the A-go UMPC? The price point is simular. I need to use this for visual imargy (both temp storage & qucik on site views) - email - spreadsheets (minor edits) and referencing an Access Database.

sully127 wrote:I'm assuming these don't have any support for PCMCIA cards... as in my broadband access card which would make this thing worthwhile, right?

I'm assuming you are talking EVDO or other WIRELESS broadband.

There is a USB-to-PCMCIA adpater made for this sort of thing, or you can use a wireless router.

http://store.mp3car.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=41

This works with EVDO (Verizon, Sprint, Alltel(?)), but I'm not sure about TMobile/ATT and their GSM derivative high-speed.

thomasz wrote:

I'm assuming you are talking EVDO or other WIRELESS broadband.

There is a USB-to-PCMCIA adpater made for this sort of thing, or you can use a wireless router.

http://store.mp3car.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=41

This works with EVDO (Verizon, Sprint, Alltel(?)), but I'm not sure about TMobile/ATT and their GSM derivative high-speed.

These are really cool, I had the opportunity to test one; it's really making me think about getting one of these

Edit: Check out this video of a great way you could add wifi to your OQO http://www.networkworld.com/video/022006ct-kyocera.html?tab=cool_tools

clbj30 wrote:In reading some of the reviews, one great use for this device popped up. You could use it to watch shows TV /saved shows via slingbox. 1 review said the battery lasted 2 hours doing just that. I think that use would be great for the traveller/road warrior.

why waste your time with such a small screen when you can have a "live " performance by taking your Roomba along with you??
especially fun on longer flights (read 747s) ,,, tape up the IR sensors and watch it tumble down the staircase from the upper deck...pure laughter...AND - you'll be the center of attention

i recently wooted the gps CoPilot Navigator and have been holding out for a smaller pc type device.

i know this will need a usb cd drive to load, but anyone have an idea of how well this would serve my purpose?

buddhablue

wileecoyote wrote:Buy one brand new at a local store and make a photocopy of the legitimate receipt. Now return the unit you just purchased but keep the original receipt or at least a photocopy of the receipt. Then buy a second unit from a cheaper source like woot being careful to ensure they are the same exact model / packaging / barcode. Finally return the second unit at a local store along with your authentic receipt, preferably at a different outlet that won't recognize you.

...

Also, be advised that some store systems may be smart enough to flag the item as returned on the first trip, then when the same receipt is used to make the second return their system will reject or decline the refund, or possibly prompt them to give you a gift card, or just have you arrested...

READERS, BE WARNED: As a former employee, don't try this at Best Buy. Their POS system has a company-wide database of receipt info (date of purchase, store #, register #, transaction #) that includes every SKU purchased or returned on that transaction/receipt. When you return an item through the return POS system, the original receipt records are accessed, and noted that a return or exchange was made. This system was implemented to detect & deter the fraud that you speak of.

I was a Geek Squad employee in a Chicago store, and we caught at least two different people trying to perform multiple exchanges/returns on products. I'll spare you the details, as they are complicated. But be sure that they were caught. One was arrested. They other was denied, but his in-store record was noted of the activity. (And, yes! Best Buy keeps separate company-wide database records of their customer's purchasing activities, both online and in store.)

Funny what they've got on all you technophiles. (Me, included.)

i95rr wrote:can I put linux on this, I'm really not a windows person.

Yes, with some limitations. There is a whole ubuntu howto group. Google reveals several links. I don't know if they have full X support (which I'd like for google earth) instead of just VESA, but the screen is a wacom tablet so that driver works.

My most interesting thought is I have an 80GB iPod Video (with MacDrive, you can access it as native HFS+ macintosh format), so space would not be a limitation. For that matter I have a 500Gb Firewire/USB MyBook.

The big thing tempting me is sunlight readability - I've been looking for something to put in my car (or more specifically on my motorcycle) as a central data display for GPS, radar detector, Vehicle data like RPM, etc. but sunlight-readable screens alone were near this price.

I'm using my Sharp Zaurus (850C) right now, and it works but it doesn't do full sunlight well.

I've already got EVDO and GPS (I'm the one who put gpsd in the Kyocera KR1 - see evdoinfo.com).

If it were a bit less, I'd grab one. Or maybe two.

A guy we work with has one of these. It is neat. He loves it.

marcospalmeri wrote:There must be a market for these things because I've seen them popping up more and more at Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. But I'm not sure I really understand the purpose... They seem too big and expensive for a PDA and too small for a laptop. I'd rather spend the $700 or $800 on a laptop with the same specs and a 15" screen instead... If someone can explain it to me, go for it!

The market is going to be every doctor, as privacy rules kick in, paper must be eliminated or secured.

800 Hundred for a computer the size of my hand? You have got to be kidding!!! I would preffer to pay that for a PS3. This has to be a rich boys toy. You have no cd drive and you are going to glasses to see anything. Just way to much money for a novelty item.

Buck Mulligan wrote:"up to" 3 hours? 3 hours is bad enough, but you can cut that in half.

And "b" wifi?

Thanks for the laugh from your photo. That's not you is it? He He!

I have one of these at work. It stays in the box. We bought it for a project that was canceled before it was completed. The stylus is too difficult to use because it's too small and light. The right click feature is a pain in the neck too. But the price is a lot cheaper than my company paid ($2k).

denvette73 wrote:The market is going to be every doctor, as privacy rules kick in, paper must be eliminated or secured.

Guiness Brewmaster #1: I got an idea! To secure patient privacy, let's take away the paper in the filing cabinet, and put all the data into a Windows-based PC with both 802.11 wi-fi & Bluetooth accessibility, then hand the PCs to those really tech-savvy doctors who have trouble logging into their web-based e-mail.

Guiness Brewmaster #2: Brilliant!

SmackHappE wrote:lol
the first time I read this I thought you were calling it a Piece Of Sht system.

That's what we used to call it in the store. However, it is a conventional acronym widely used in retail for "Point Of Sale".

rjenk wrote:The company I work for has looked at these and a couple of other mini-type PC's and the main problem with the Transmeta-based systems has been that they were a little slow and produced a great deal of heat (which was a little suprising).

Can't deny the neato factor though...

I've already seen one Transmeta-based system in action...Result: I agree with you and wouldn't touch one. I'll wait until someone bases one off an mobile Intel Core Solo, which should offer good battery life and performance leaps and bounds above the Transmeta Crusoe.

[quote="LoveSpud"]The "slow", non-x86 CPU is not significant for Word, Outlook, and the like. Where the CPU (and, lets not forget, the integrated graphics chip) really hits you is in startup performance, VIsta support, and anything beyond basic web-browsing and e-mail. [/quote]

uh, your conclusion may be alright but your facts are not. the Transmeta Crusoe IS an x86 processor for the record (confirmation link here). it is dog slow, but should be OK for word/excel/web browsing. it can run all x86 apps.

They get a point for the neat-o factor.

I personally use a Treo 700w with EVDO access. I also have a home laptop, and in my home office a desktop, then of course there is my work laptop with portable printer. My work laptop goes with me everywhere I go. It's nothing fancy, in fact, I got it for $500 so you know it's no where near top of the line. But when I'm not physically sitting in front of my computers and all I need to know is directions, or a movie time, or the score of a game, or the location of something, my Treo is perfect. Once they upgraded my area to EVDO, there's hardly a wait to load a page. And while it can load regular web pages, so many sites now have a pocket pc version. I use amazon.com alot just for price referencing when I'm out and about shopping. I can't imagine spending $800 on something in essence I already have. My Palm also runs office, it checks my pop3 mail, and of course it's a phone.

I'm no techie, I only know what I end up needing to know to get by, but I don't consider myself a novice either. This is something I'd use for a week or so and end up in the bottom of my desk drawer.

BTW... someone made a comment about just getting a "pocket pc"... I tried one, thought it would be an upgrade from my Treo. WRONG. Having to slide out the keyboard all the time got annoying. And the battery life was TERRIBLE!!! This 3 hour tablet could probably outlast it. After a week I took it back. Thank goodness for Verizons 14 day return policy.

Be kind, this is my first woot post.

slide12345678 wrote:ummm, wait a second...
why have 28% of people purchased 3?

is this Best Buy return thing for real?
are they all planning on getting $900+ apiece for these on eBay?
is there another return scam i don't know about?

i must know.

Probably ebay... I can't imagine once best buy starts getting a flood of things they never sold being returned without receipts, they wouldn't notice.

The Transmeta Crusoe processor is not a good performer. They don't drain the battery, but run hot and very slow. If you are seriously considering this woot, make sure you do some research, the processor is most likely the bottleneck for this system.

marcospalmeri wrote:There must be a market for these things because I've seen them popping up more and more at Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. But I'm not sure I really understand the purpose... They seem too big and expensive for a PDA and too small for a laptop. I'd rather spend the $700 or $800 on a laptop with the same specs and a 15" screen instead... If someone can explain it to me, go for it!

Can you carry your laptop every where you go in a lether case on your belt it's the new pda but i could run Quickbooks on it

What? Did the Woot graphics gurus go on vacation? Why isn't there a picture of something weird and goofy on the screen? Actually is was kind of a relief to see something rather benign.

buddhablue wrote:i recently wooted the gps CoPilot Navigator and have been holding out for a smaller pc type device.

i know this will need a usb cd drive to load, but anyone have an idea of how well this would serve my purpose?

buddhablue

I think you would be better off with pocket Pc the battery is better and the programs are designed for it. the desktop programs may require performance of better machine.

I want to put bluetooth gps on my samsung I730 but live in Salt lake city UT. look at a map youll know why i dont need one

Wow, 9AM Eastern and the "I want one!" button is already doing the "less than 10%" dance.

Smartings wrote:http://www.hhcmag.com/reviews/oqomodel01personalpc/index.htm
Review in Handheld Computing rates it B+
Says the case gets hot.

Fellow wooters, you MUST learn the fine art of READING specs.

The link posted above, along with the review and every other one I've seen so far in the posts are all for the original model 01, not the 01+ which is the one being sold today by woot. Differences? to start off with it DOES have the XP tablet edtition the reviewer above bemoans lacking (on the original 01).

Ditto for the "worst tech product", etc. All of those point to the older 01 model.

The tablet XP makes this a viable take along electronic note taker, electronic doodle/sketching electronic wonder, that yes can also run email, browse, write docs, do spreadsheets, etc.

The most scary prospect is not its shortfall but windows'
(meaning exposure to viruses and spyware)
... but that's Gates' bad, not this little bricklike gem's.
But if that doesn't keep you from buying a Window PC, then do the same here.

davidtb wrote:Wow..this is soo cool...why's it more than a Laptop?

Why do laptops cost more than desktops? Same thing...

Damn those samsung ones never went that fast

http://thingstohelpyou.com

marcospalmeri wrote:There must be a market for these things because I've seen them popping up more and more at Best Buy, Circuit City, etc. But I'm not sure I really understand the purpose... They seem too big and expensive for a PDA and too small for a laptop. I'd rather spend the $700 or $800 on a laptop with the same specs and a 15" screen instead... If someone can explain it to me, go for it!

Buying a laptop with the same specs would be a ripoff at a price of $799. Maybe for $200.

# Processor: 1GHz Transmeta Crusoe [Never heard of it.]
# Hard drive: 30GB [Did not know they still made them this small.]
# Memory: 512MB DDR RAM [XP not worth running with less then 1Gb RAM]

discountsam wrote:

What link to Vonage?

The link I had mentioned was for a prior owners comments about this device. He goes on to describe how to use a Vonage account with this unit as mentioned below...

http://business2.blogs.com/utilitybelt/2006/10/improved_oqo_ha.html
Scroll down to... Posted by: Alan | Oct 25, 2006 1:41:45 PM
"recommend getting a Vonage account and their new V-Phone (http://www.vonage.com/device.php?type=VPHONE), which is a USB 2.0 compliant memory stick and VoIP dialer. Simply plug it into any PC and it will auto-run the dialer which displays a nice size telephone keypad. If you have a good broadband connection or better yet, something like Verizon's FIOS service, then 99% of the time you should experience an excellent connection and great quality of service. The headset and microphone device that are packaged with the USB device are pretty cool and believe it or not, work very well. In addition, Vonage supports electronic delivery of voice mail, simultaneous ringing of other telephone devices (even non-VoIP) devices, and a rather nice web-based customer information portal."

Sorry this comes in late since this unit has already been sold out.

I wish I had hit the I WANT ONE button last night!!!

MisterSym wrote:Funny what they've [Best Buy] got on all you technophiles.
(Me, included.)

Which is why 1) I avoid Best Buy at all costs; and 2) if I *must* do anything there, I pay in cash.

Product Note: If you are looking for just a good linux based "Mobile Communicator," try the Nokia 770. Lists for around $350 (but can be had at times for $100 less when on sale). Less functionality, but allows email, web surfing, and some nice "time wasters." Has built in Bluetooth and 802.11 (both B and G). The previously mentioned Zauruses (Zaurii?) are a better package, but the Nokia (at about half the cost) is pretty decent.

Heeyyy... Whatever happend to the $200 rebate that came with this? did they only have a select few and sold out of the rebates, thus removing it, and every comment about it on the boards?

gobanjoboy wrote:

Buying a laptop with the same specs would be a ripoff at a price of $799. Maybe for $200.

# Processor: 1GHz Transmeta Crusoe [Never heard of it.]
# Hard drive: 30GB [Did not know they still made them this small.]
# Memory: 512MB DDR RAM [XP not worth running with less then 1Gb RAM]

True, nowadays you can easily find a regular laptop for that price with about double those specs. I was just making the point that it would seem like a better deal with a 15" screen, portable or not... The small screen trend is nice for some products, but only to a certain extent. The same way that digital cameras brag about how BIG their screens are now and wouldn't go a step backwards by "upgrading" with smaller screens, I think laptops have reached their lowest limit of usability with 14" or 15" screens... Same with mp3 players. The new video iPods better have a bigger screen, but hopefully not any bigger than the current iPod itself. Until the technology for "foldable" or "rollable" screens get more affordable, I think screen sizes have hit a "point of no possible improvement."

And speaking as a med student that's used tablet PC's to go in to see patients, thank God the ones they force us to use have at least a 10" or 12" screen, depending on the hospital. Trying to read a patient's life history on a 5" screen would be painful, to say the least!!

The Pepper Pad 3 is a nice alternative. 8-inch screen. Linux based. Under $700 at amazon.

opack wrote:Heeyyy... Whatever happend to the $200 rebate that came with this? did they only have a select few and sold out of the rebates, thus removing it, and every comment about it on the boards?

I was on at midnight and never saw any rebate... no idea what your talking about... possibly people were posting saying there should have been a 250 rebate just to complain about something, but no rebate ever existed...

Sony makes the exact same thing, except with a Core 2 Solo processor, Bluetooth and UTMS/3G for Cingular as well for about $2k. That's a bit more useful...but I can see something tiny like this might be handy also in some situatons.

belloc wrote:

It will run Office? on a 5 inch screen? browse the internet on 5 inches??? Not sure I get it even if it does run my apps on a non x86 cpu.

Transmeta Crusoe is an x86 CPU, sort of (for a variety of technical reasons it's exactly the opposite of an x86 CPU, but it runs with perfect 100% compatability all x86 applications natively with 0 compatability issues)