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February means Fashion Week in New York, where style trends are born and the newest looks are big business. But what about the rest of us? What about you, a randomly chosen non-supermodel reading a short trivia piece on the Internet? What do you know about fashion? Don't get me wrong, you look great today, but there are a lot of sartorial misconceptions that make the rounds in our culture. We've asked Ken Jennings, who is well-dressed at least by the low standards of Jeopardy! contestants, to go through our closets and throw out all the wrong stuff we thought we knew about our clothes.

The Debunker: What Do Scotsmen Wear Under Their Kilts?

There's a logical goof called the "no true Scotsman" fallacy, in which the speaker consistently re-defines his terms in the face of new evidence. The original case, from a 1975 book by philosopher Antony Flew, imagines a Scot reading a news article about a sex maniac on the loose in England. "No Scotsman would do such a thing!" he says. The next day, he sees a second article about a similar crime spree in Scotland. "No true Scotsman would do such a thing," he still insists.

The Debunker

But in Scotland, the phrase "true Scotsman" is most often used for one specific local stereotype: the practice of going underwear-free in traditional garb, even on the coldest days. "A true Scotsman is said to never wear anything under his kilt," the New York Times proclaimed in 2010. This explains the ubiquity of tacky "Official Kilt Inspector" t-shirts at Scottish souvenir shops today.

In fact, the traditional Scottish kilt is a lot less traditional than you probably think. The original Highland plaid was the "great kilt," a belted piece of tartan worn as a cloak from the shoulders. The modern kilt only dates back to the turn of the 18th century, and sources from that era actually credit it to Thomas Rawlinson, an English industrialist! Rawlinson was looking for a less unwieldy alternative to the great kilt for workers at his iron foundry at Invergarry, and proposed a simple waist-down version. A century later, the novels of Sir Walter Scott made Highland culture all the rage in Britain, Queen Victoria herself started looking at listings for a new castle in Scotland, and the rest was history. The kilt was permanently embedded in the popular myth of Scottish culture

But, in fact, the only hard-and-fast rule about what a Scotsman should wear under his kilt came from the military. Around the time of the Boer War and World War I, the Gordon Highlanders and other Scottish regiments preferred to wear nothing under their regimental tartans. "If you wore anything under a kilt you’d have been issued with it," remembered one private. "You didn’t get that issued so you didn’t wear anything." As a result, wearing nothing under one's kilt is called "going regimental" in Scotland to this day. But there was never any such rule for civilians. In fact, many kilt-wearers in dance and athletics are now officially required to wear underwear, to prevent spectators from getting an eyeful. A 2016 poll by YouGov found that fully 62 percent of Scots wore briefs or shorts under their plaid. Just 38 percent go regimental nowadays

Quick Quiz: James Bond is Scottish, but the only actor to wear a kilt as 007 was what Australian, who briefly played Bond in 1969?

Ken Jennings is the author of eleven books, most recently his Junior Genius Guides, Because I Said So!, and Maphead. He's also the proud owner of an underwhelming Bag o' Crap. Follow him at ken-jennings.com or on Twitter as @KenJennings.

Ayrk


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George Lazenby.

It never happened to the "other guy"

moles1138


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Nobody's posted this yet?

zmerch


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So... simple question: What exactly was debunked in this article?

Admittedly, it was an interesting read and all, but at the end of the day if you lift the kilt of a non-dancing Scotsman you've got almost a 4-in-10 chance of "seeing a bit more than you may have bargained for."

Or, in short: almost 40% *are* true Scotsmen. Where's the debunk?

kalee11


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I remember reading that if the Scottish monarch was a queen, you wore underwear out of respect, and if the monarch was a king, you didn't need to.


demonbourne


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If you're a true Scotsman, you already know the answer to this question is 'three different shades of lipstick, on a good day.'

daveinwarshington


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zmerch wrote:So... simple question: What exactly was debunked in this article?
Where's the debunk?


Here is de bunk:


jhems1179


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Never, EVER ask that question to a Scotsman. Back in high school, we had a foreign exchange student from Scotland. One day he wore a kilt, and I jokingly asked him what he wears under his kilt.
He looked me square in the eyes and said, "Your mudda's lipstick."
Speechless, I hung my head in shame to the laughter of peers around me and slowly walked way.
There was no comeback from that one.

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jhems1179 wrote:Never, EVER ask that question to a Scotsman. Back in high school, we had a foreign exchange student from Scotland. One day he wore a kilt, and I jokingly asked him what he wears under his kilt.
He looked me square in the eyes and said, "Your mudda's lipstick."
Speechless, I hung my head in shame to the laughter of peers around me and slowly walked way.
There was no comeback from that one.



awe. Nope, thanks for sharing.

TheRiverz


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I just saw this thread teaser on main page and came here to quote blue silk ribbon tied into bow

moles1138 wrote:Nobody's posted this yet?



BrandyJ39156


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What do Scotsmen wear under their kilts???

Well of course, nothing but their Scottish pride!!! Mmm Hmm!!!

LMAO!!

-HoneyB

Calgaltoal


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I saw another pic but it might have been censored, if I did!

digitaljanitor


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Young female tourist: Is anything worn under your kilt?
Scotsman: Nay, lassie, 'tis as good as it's ever been.

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